Bruce Pearl part of Memphis Tigers Midnight Madness

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bleedingTNorange said:
I guess it's a matter of opinion, but I don't know how you truthfully can think that. Being all over sportscenter everyday, being the talk of every sports radio show, and for all the wrong reasons, was an absolute embarrassment.
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Not to me, if u have rules to follow and definite penalties then maybe.... So far we have:

* Alabama signing autographs at a big boosters store, riding on his yacht, T Richardson with 2 40,000 plus cars that he could not possibly have afforded......nothing done

* proven that at the very least Cam Newtons dad asked for 250,000 dollars..... A definite violation that was overlooked to let him play

* Oregon paid 25,000 to get L Seastrunk funneled to them and when asked to supply documents proving what they paid for...hey gave documents from players from a different yr(obviously lying)

* All that went down at Miami and nothing at all yet....how much investigation was really needed there

* AJ green suspended for four games for selling his personal property for less than a 1000 dollars, Manziel signs a few thousand dollars worth of autographs and gets suspended for a half.

* the duke player that spent thousands of dollars during his playing days and nothing came of it.

They took our coach and suspended him for 3 yrs over a barbacue and a couple of months lie. It's absolute Bullsh@t. If they actually had rules that they went by it would be different.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Which is what it needs to do. You know what this thread will turn into, and the fact were discussing Memphis basketball makes it that much worse.
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There are all kinds of topics in all the forums that I don't like...........I don't see why it so hard for some just to skip/ignore what they don't like.

The reason why some have a great appreciation for Bruce Pearl is bc we lived through the bad times of UT basketball. Most on this board started watching UT basketball in the 2000's as u can tell by the top ten players lists. I lived through the Don Devoe blah yrs, the wade Houston abysmal yrs including his 5 win season( how do u just win 5 games) and his loss to Kentucky by 60 points.

He is the reason we have Pratt pavilion, the reason our name got on our bigger stage, the reason our fans got rejuvenated towards basketball as shown by attendance as Zo tries to grow as a coach.
 
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hendersonvillevol said:
I am for hiring bruce pearl back he would have us back in the top 5 in the nation with the players we have and would get to go back to ncaa tourny
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As a Tiger fan, I always thought Pearl was a great coach - a communicator and team motivator second to none! I think we'll keep Pastner for a long time (which I think is great) - however, any team would be fortunate to have Pearl as their coach, IMO.
 
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volbeast33 said:
There are all kinds of topics in all the forums that I don't like...........I don't see why it so hard for some just to skip/ignore what they don't like.

The reason why some have a great appreciation for Bruce Pearl is bc we lived through the bad times of UT basketball. Most on this board started watching UT basketball in the 2000's as u can tell by the top ten players lists. I lived through the Don Devoe blah yrs, the wade Houston abysmal yrs including his 5 win season( how do u just win 5 games) and his loss to Kentucky by 60 points.

He is the reason we have Pratt pavilion, the reason our name got on our bigger stage, the reason our fans got rejuvenated towards basketball as shown by attendance as Zo tries to grow as a coach.
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Good post, but the positive stuff about Bruce is quickly dismissed by many on here. They only want to remember the BBQ .
 
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volbeast33 said:
Not to me, if u have rules to follow and definite penalties then maybe.... So far we have:

* Alabama signing autographs at a big boosters store, riding on his yacht, T Richardson with 2 40,000 plus cars that he could not possibly have afforded......nothing done

* proven that at the very least Cam Newtons dad asked for 250,000 dollars..... A definite violation that was overlooked to let him play

* Oregon paid 25,000 to get L Seastrunk funneled to them and when asked to supply documents proving what they paid for...hey gave documents from players from a different yr(obviously lying)

* All that went down at Miami and nothing at all yet....how much investigation was really needed there

* AJ green suspended for four games for selling his personal property for less than a 1000 dollars, Manziel signs a few thousand dollars worth of autographs and gets suspended for a half.

* the duke player that spent thousands of dollars during his playing days and nothing came of it.

They took our coach and suspended him for 3 yrs over a barbacue and a couple of months lie. It's absolute Bullsh@t. If they actually had rules that they went by it would be different.
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Ditto:
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I guess it's a matter of opinion, but I don't know how you truthfully can think that. Being all over sportscenter everyday, being the talk of every sports radio show, and for all the wrong reasons, was an absolute embarrassment.
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IMO, that's not Pearl's fault. Being drug out and talked about the whole basketball season is due to the fact that Hamilton didn't suspend Pearl after he came clean. He should have been suspended after he admit he lied until the NCAA ruled on their investigation. The "continued" embarrassment was Hamilton's fault.
 
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johnnybravo said:
IMO, that's not Pearl's fault. Being drug out and talked about the whole basketball season is due to the fact that Hamilton didn't suspend Pearl after he came clean. He should have been suspended after he admit he lied until the NCAA ruled on their investigation. The "continued" embarrassment was Hamilton's fault.
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If Pearl doesn't do it Hamilton has nothing to drag out....correct?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
If Pearl doesn't do it Hamilton has nothing to drag out....correct?
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Pearl is completely responsible for the initial cut. Hamilton is responsible for letting it fester week after week. Suspend Pearl the moment he admitted lying, then the university keeps it's reputation in tact. Suspend Pearl the moment he admitted lying and you don't have Slive making your university look stupid by having to suspend your coach for you. Suspend Pearl the moment that he admitted lying, and you are not tied to him through the whole NCAA investigation process. Suspend Pearl the moment he admitted lying and only Pearl is the embarrassment and the university only enhances it's reputation and not drag it's reputation in the mud with Pearl.
 
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I get what you're saying JB, I just have an issue with not placing any of the embarrassment on Pearl, when without Pearl the situation wouldn't have existed at all.


IMO
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I get what you're saying JB, I just have an issue with not placing any of the embarrassment on Pearl, when without Pearl the situation wouldn't have existed at all.


IMO
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You're right the situation was completely caused by Pearl to a certain extent (I won't go into that soup opra). He definitely embarrassed and damaged himself. The day he admitted lying to the press, Hamilton said that Pearl will remain as our head coach. Every bit of the circus act after that point is IMO Hamilton's responsibility. He had 3 choices. Suspend him, fire him, or have the university back him through the NCAA investigation process. Hamilton embarrassed the university by not taking the right steps as the athletic directory the day Pearl admitted that he lied.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I get what you're saying JB, I just have an issue with not placing any of the embarrassment on Pearl, when without Pearl the situation wouldn't have existed at all.


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Im not embarrassed in the least by what Pearl did....Im way more embarrassed by the 5 win season and some of the other seasons we had.

Seeing the punishment Miami got for all the cheating,scandals,and other things that was going on down there pisses me off even more that Pearl got three yrs over a lie and a barbacue.....talk about the punishment not fitting the crime....the NCAA sucks!!!
 
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johnnybravo said:
You're right the situation was completely caused by Pearl to a certain extent (I won't go into that soup opra). He definitely embarrassed and damaged himself. The day he admitted lying to the press, Hamilton said that Pearl will remain as our head coach. Every bit of the circus act after that point is IMO Hamilton's responsibility. He had 3 choices. Suspend him, fire him, or have the university back him through the NCAA investigation process. Hamilton embarrassed the university by not taking the right steps as the athletic directory the day Pearl admitted that he lied.
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You are right about the 3 choices and Hamilton didn't do any of the 3. He didn't fire him, suspend him, or back him.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Im not embarrassed in the least by what Pearl did....Im way more embarrassed by the 5 win season and some of the other seasons we had.

Seeing the punishment Miami got for all the cheating,scandals,and other things that was going on down there pisses me off even more that Pearl got three yrs over a lie and a barbacue.....talk about the punishment not fitting the crime....the NCAA sucks!!!
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Lol you're like the little boy screaming at his mother,"it's not fair, Johnny's mom didn't whip him."
 
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volbeast33 said:
Im not embarrassed in the least by what Pearl did....Im way more embarrassed by the 5 win season and some of the other seasons we had.

Seeing the punishment Miami got for all the cheating,scandals,and other things that was going on down there pisses me off even more that Pearl got three yrs over a lie and a barbacue.....talk about the punishment not fitting the crime....the NCAA sucks!!!
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Perhaps a majority of the allegations against Miami were untrue, if the sentence is this light. Also, multiple show causes were handed out to the coaches involved, and none of them were found to have lied to the NCAA outright.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Im not embarrassed in the least by what Pearl did....Im way more embarrassed by the 5 win season and some of the other seasons we had.

Seeing the punishment Miami got for all the cheating,scandals,and other things that was going on down there pisses me off even more that Pearl got three yrs over a lie and a barbacue.....talk about the punishment not fitting the crime....the NCAA sucks!!!
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I have to admit, this smacks of sour grapes. In the end, Bruce Pearl is responsible for the actions of Bruce Pearl. He can't control the NCAA or their decisions, fair or otherwise. He CAN control his own decisions, and did so poorly. Whether the punishment fits the crime in respect to others is quite frankly irrelevant now.

He has to live with his decisions, not the decisions of others. We are all taught that at an early age. If Bruce Pearl were being honest with you, he'd blame only himself. If not, then he's under the same delusional belief that someone else is responsible for his actions, and that's just not true for a grown man in a position of authority.
 
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wtorange said:
You are right about the 3 choices and Hamilton didn't do any of the 3. He didn't fire him, suspend him, or back him.
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Well, he backed him right up to the night before the Mich Game. I think you are right on not firing him. I think Cheeks did that. Slive suspended him. Hamilton has to go down in history as the worst athletic director in NCAA history.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I have to admit, this smacks of sour grapes. In the end, Bruce Pearl is responsible for the actions of Bruce Pearl. He can't control the NCAA or their decisions, fair or otherwise. He CAN control his own decisions, and did so poorly. Whether the punishment fits the crime in respect to others is quite frankly irrelevant now.

He has to live with his decisions, not the decisions of others. We are all taught that at an early age. If Bruce Pearl were being honest with you, he'd blame only himself. If not, then he's under the same delusional belief that someone else is responsible for his actions, and that's just not true for a grown man in a position of authority.
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True this. There is not one coach or assistant coach in college that does not know the consequencies for lying to the NCAA. It does not matter if the punishment fits the crime or not. Every coach knows what the sentence will be.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I have to admit, this smacks of sour grapes. In the end, Bruce Pearl is responsible for the actions of Bruce Pearl. He can't control the NCAA or their decisions, fair or otherwise. He CAN control his own decisions, and did so poorly. Whether the punishment fits the crime in respect to others is quite frankly irrelevant now.

He has to live with his decisions, not the decisions of others. We are all taught that at an early age. If Bruce Pearl were being honest with you, he'd blame only himself. If not, then he's under the same delusional belief that someone else is responsible for his actions, and that's just not true for a grown man in a position of authority.
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No it honestly has nothing to do with Bruce Pearl at all but I was just relating it to him bc of the topic. I wish they would try to clean up college sports..... Its very irritating when they pick and choose what they want to punish.....u could go on for days about cases that make no sense.....they need to redo their guidelines and make punishments that have a tad bit of common sense to them.
 
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volbeast33 said:
No it honestly has nothing to do with Bruce Pearl at all but I was just relating it to him bc of the topic. I wish they would try to clean up college sports..... Its very irritating when they pick and choose what they want to punish.....u could go on for days about cases that make no sense.....they need to redo their guidelines and make punishments that have a tad bit of common sense to them.
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I'll agree that the NCAA is not in the common sense business.
 
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volbeast33 said:
No it honestly has nothing to do with Bruce Pearl at all but I was just relating it to him bc of the topic. I wish they would try to clean up college sports..... Its very irritating when they pick and choose what they want to punish.....u could go on for days about cases that make no sense.....they need to redo their guidelines and make punishments that have a tad bit of common sense to them.
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Their ridiculous guidelines make it impossible to completely police athletic programs.

Take a minute and read through portions of the NCAA Rulebook, and you'll see that it's so overwhelming that it can never be enforced properly.
 
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