Bryce Brown

[VolGee4]

I'd hate to be a bust that makes it to and plays in the NFL

Bust in college. He quit on every college team he played for. I guess we should be happy for him but shows that you can quit and talent alone will get you somewhere.

 

[VolGee4]

So my point is, did Kiffin cut some deal with Brown about playing time as a true frosh. Rumor had it he did. And did this lead to Kiffin's brain fart that cost us the UCLA game that year? I always thought it was so, and that it did, but ICBW.

Must have. He played Brown in some strange spots. If I remember correctly, Hardesty ran all the way down the field in the first game against WK and Brown got the goal line carry. Hardesty showed by the end of the year that he was a great back. He was a stud at UK. I am not sure that Kiffin is a bad coach because he developed some of our players. But he is dumb for catering to young players.

 

[oregonvol]

Hell bro after living in L.A. for 12 years and seeing how great a recruiter LK was I thought we were headed to the promised land myself. Then he landed BB and I thought it has begun. The building blocks are coming to place and the foundation is being set.

LK got this fanbase so hyped up. Then.....well......ummm.....now were hoping to wake up every morning to hear DD is fired. From dreams of Championships to prayers we don't lose our history/tradition of dominance to the likes of Vandy, Kentucky, and Mizzu. Boy how quickly it can fall all apart.

Yeah, there was so much excitement when Lane Kiffin came and it seemed like we were finally trying to win championships again. I remember the day he signed his first recruiting class and how he said they did okay with the time they had, but how that wasn't going to be good enough at UT and he was going to do better. Coming after years of excuses, it was such a breath of fresh air. And then he signs the top recruit in the nation. I just felt so much optimism.

Of course, the season was a struggle, but there were flashes of good football and you could see improvement. And the recruiting class was looking good and Florida fans weren't happy and there was some hope.

But then, he left and it was like an atomic bomb went off on this fanbase. They hired Dooley, which was just like waving a white flag and saying, "Well, we thought we could be good, but it's too hard. Our feelings got hurt, so we give up." I knew that day exactly how this was going to play out, and it's going just as expected.

 

[Cyclopskiller]

I'm on mobile or I'd post Arian fosters stats. How can you say he was a waste of talent?

Your record says what you are, and his record had costly turnovers

 

[BearCat204]

Bryce has been on the true vawl fans most hated list right below kiffin ever since he left. Glad to see him doing well.

 

[DocVOLiday]

I'm sure his stats are fine. My problem with Foster was his uncanny ability to turn the ball over at the worst time.

No doubt he had a few very costly mistakes (many of which came at bad times), but that doesn't make him a "waste of talent" when he was here. That's ridiculous to say.
He played really well EXCEPT for those fumbles, it's not like he sucked at running the ball AND had turnovers

 

[gobraves101035]

Glad he is doing well, better spend his money wisely without a degree to back it up if he messes up in NFL. Vince young is now looking for a job since somehow he is in debt after 3 years when his contract had 26 million guaranteed...dumb rich people

 

[BanditVol]

I'm sure his stats are fine. My problem with Foster was his uncanny ability to turn the ball over at the worst time.

Compared to what he has done in the NFL, we probably could have gotten more out of him. Compared to Bryce....that's all I am saying.

 

[BanditVol]

Who's Adrian Foster?

Ha. Nice catch. ARIAN.

 

[BanditVol]

No doubt he had a few very costly mistakes (many of which came at bad times), but that doesn't make him a "waste of talent" when he was here. That's ridiculous to say.
He played really well EXCEPT for those fumbles, it's not like he sucked at running the ball AND had turnovers

I agree. Just thinking he could have done more for us. Maybe we feature him instead of Crompton in 08, it goes differently, IDK.

He DID fumble at the worst times possible though. :banghead2:

 

[Volle]

Bryce had a hip-pointer at UT his first year, give him a break.

 

[BanditVol]

But then, he left and it was like an atomic bomb went off on this fanbase. They hired Dooley, which was just like waving a white flag and saying, "Well, we thought we could be good, but it's too hard. Our feelings got hurt, so we give up." I knew that day exactly how this was going to play out, and it's going just as expected.

Well, I don't know if it was a white flag, so much as a desperation hire. Who else could we get in January right before signing day? Not a lot of time to look and the name coaches at bigger schools probably don't leave or want to even talk to another school during recruiting. It could totally screw their class.

Having said that, there was a huge negative groundswell against Cutcliffe, which IMO may have contributed to the breakdown of negotiations. As I understand it, Hamilton suddenly imposed a "dealbreaker" (not giving Cut complete control of the staff) at a late moment. IMO he did this because the majority of the fanbase rejected Cut.

But in retrospect, Cut would almost certainly have done better than Dooley....

 

[thebjd]

Where's Tauren Poole?

 

[YorkVol]

For the record, Bryce was an immature knucklehead that couldn't decide if he wanted to be a Vol or not for about 6 months and kept his teammates in limbo wondering whether or not they could count on him. His dad didn't help matters either.

As we all were at one point in our lives. Glad to see he grew up.

 

[oregonvol]

Well, I don't know if it was a white flag, so much as a desperation hire. Who else could we get in January right before signing day? Not a lot of time to look and the name coaches at bigger schools probably don't leave or want to even talk to another school during recruiting. It could totally screw their class.

Having said that, there was a huge negative groundswell against Cutcliffe, which IMO may have contributed to the breakdown of negotiations. As I understand it, Hamilton suddenly imposed a "dealbreaker" (not giving Cut complete control of the staff) at a late moment. IMO he did this because the majority of the fanbase rejected Cut.

But in retrospect, Cut would almost certainly have done better than Dooley....

Eh, I wouldn't have wanted Cutcliffe either. I think it was less a matter of not being able to find a coach and more a matter of Hamilton imposing a silly time restraint (I mean, who cares about losing a class if you're locked into a total loser as coach?) and not being willing to spend what it takes to get a good coach in that situation.

I've posted it before, but here's how I think of the situation:

When Kiffin left, it was like a week before Christmas and all of a sudden your kid tells you all they want from Santa this year is the hot toy that is sold out everywhere. What do you do? Well, you can get on ebay and pay some insane amount for this toy. You'll feel sick about it, but in the end, you have the toy, and your kid has a happy Christmas, and eventually you'll forget about the financial sting of it. Or you can give the kid an IOU, tell him Santa couldn't get the toy in time, but he's going to get it in a month, when there are more available, in the meantime, he can play with an interim present. The kid may not be happy, but in a month, he's going to be happy, and he's going to play with his toy and all will be forgotten. Both of these solutions work. But, the one thing you can't do is buy a Sega Dreamcast and try to pass it off as a Nintendo Wii. Because your kid may trust you when you tell him that the Dreamcast is just as good, but once he starts playing with it and once he sees all of his friends playing with their Wiis, he's going to soon realize that you conned him and that the two don't stack up. And he's going to feel cheated. I realized that day that Hamilton was buying a ****ing Dreamcast and trying to pass it off as a Wii.

 

[wmcovol]

Bryce was smarter than the rest of us. He saw the Goodship Dooley and knew to get TFO before it left shore......the rest of us are stuck!

the only time Brown ran that fast while in Knoxville was when he was after PYTs.....

 

[orangebloodgmc]

Dude had over 400 rushing yards and 100 receiving yds. That's not bad for a true freshman backing up a 1200 yd rusher, with 2 walk on o-lineman, JC at QB, and playing in the SEC.

He also sat out a couple games (or at least one) with eligibility questions.

 

[ncvol004]

had kiffen stay brown would have feasted in kiffens zone blocking pro style O had brown been heathy his freshman year would have had around 900 yards was on pace also sat out a few games i recall about 4 or 5 games know he didnt play vs VT vandy or UK BUT........ shoulda coulda woulda almost dont count!!!! good luck to brown and philly wish them the best

 

[k-town_king]

But Dooley fans swear there was no talent and we had a MAC roster when he took over.

 

[BigBadVol]

Where's Tauren Poole?

He plays for the Carolina Panthers.

 

[ItsAllVols]

I believe the young man had some girls pulling his strings, along with his father. I think we can look at what happen when he dealt with Bill Stewart. So it wasnt just UT, but happy that he was smart enough to get his act together seem like a nice kid when I met him.

 

[branchvol]

Surely someone has a dead horse that needs beaten too. Let it go...you'll feel better.

 

[rok_etop]

Where's Tauren Poole?

To the left of Waldo.

 

[DaddyChad]

Glad to see the kid doing well.

IDK why someone would want to see him fail. Don't we have enough deadbeats and leechers in society already without wishing for more?

 

[VolunteerTitan3]

It is simply asking too much to expect someone to honor a commitment any more. I have to think in the long run it cost him. Big difference in up-front contract dollars between the 7th round and if he'd lived up to his potential and gone in the 1st or 2nd.

or he could have gotten both knees blown out and never been able to run the ball again. If he works hard and catches a few breaks in the NFL, he will get paid. Was the NCAA sniffing around before or after he left? Didn't they interrogate him a few times before he left. He had to feel uncomfortable here.