BTO’s South Carolina Postgame Report

#26
#26
Knecht is a generational offensive talent, but there are drawbacks to having him on the team. The other players stand around and watch while on offense, which limits opportunities. This team has a number of players who can be a great 2nd or 3rd scorer to Knecht, but I fear we are due for a couple more games like last night.
 
#27
#27
It wasn't JJJ, it was Mashack
Sorry...yes, you are correct. Had JJJ on the mind from another thread and post.

Edit: JJJ was guarding on the layup Mack scored on the first possession after ZZ’s FT attempts. Mashack was defending on the next two possessions in which he fouled (allegedly) Mack.
 
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#28
#28
Well you shouldn't miss FT's and layups no matter if Knecht is on the team or not. Could have the NCAA investigation caused them to shoot poorly??
 
#29
#29
Last night has a simple explanation, we couldn't shoot. South Carolina didn't do anything that other teams have done. We ran our offense and got open looks. No one, except DK and santi, could hit a shot. Hopefully we will write this one off emotionally and get back to shooting better!!
 
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1. Very disappointing loss, can’t spin it any other way, not a season ender by any stretch of the imagination or reason to throw in the towel, but it definitely sucks. South Carolina isn’t a bad team and that won’t be considered a “bad loss” on the NCAAT resume most likely when it’s all said and done, but it sure feels like a bad loss and as tough as it is to win on the road in league play that was one you really needed to win.

2. Dalton Knecht was once again very good, not as efficient as he has been recently but he was still great and hard to think what that looks like without him. Knecht was 11-24 from the field good for 45.8%, he was 3-8 from 3 good for 37.8%. The rest of the team was 10-34 from the field good for 29.4% and 2-13 from 3 good for 15.4%. That is horrible, and pathetic, and as Barnes said postgame it’s not at all fair to Knecht to have to carry a weight like that.

3. That game resembled some recent season games, where we looked like our talents had been sucked out by the Monstars. We couldn’t hit layups, wide open 3’s, free throws, you name it. Time will tell if that was a one off fluke or if that is a bad sign of something that could show itself again down the road. Idk the exact number but it felt like about 8-10 missed open bunnies, you combine that with at least 5-7 missed FT’s (considering front ends) and you’re talking about leaving 20-25 points out there. You hold a team to 63 points on sub 35% shooting and you should win that game every time, and yet it took a miracle run at the end to even make it a game.

4. I don’t want to bash players, especially veterans, so I’ll just say that if you’ve got Zeigler who was named to the Cousy list recently and Aidoo who recently has been getting All-SEC mentions as a big man they need to be much better than they were. Nobody is going to be perfect, but both had really rough games…and then JJJ once again had another rough outing. At times it really looked as if Santi & Dalton were the only 2 who cared about the game, not sure if it was a look ahead to Kentucky or something else but it was a bad look and something the announcers mentioned multiple times.

5. Big picture as I said in the opening this one doesn’t end your season but it hurts, for multiple reasons. For starters the immediate impact is that North Carolina also suffered a bad loss last night and had we won we almost certainly would’ve moved to projected 1 seed line this morning. Instead we now tumble a spot or 2 most likely, staying on the 2 seed line probably but closing the gap we had built over others on that 2 and 3 seed line rather than moving closer towards the top seeds like we would have with a win. We talked heading into SEC play about getting to 23-8(13-5), we sit now at 15-5(5-2) with 12 games remaining, that goal is still attainable but obviously requires a 8-3 finish over the final 11. With road trips to Kentucky, A&M, Bama & SC all on the slate Tennessee obviously now really has to protect the home court and try to steal a game or two on the road. Finding a way to get a win Saturday would go a long ways towards making last nights loss a moot point, it would suck because of where we’d be had we won, but would mean that we are right back on track, but winning at Rupp is never easy.



GBO!!!!
BTO
I agree with most of this. I appreciate the time and effort. Thank you.
After watching a replay of the game ZZ and Aidoo looked disinterested for sure. But I noticed while listening on the radio that the crowd seemed very subdued as well.
Made me think if the team was looking ahead to Kittens or underestimated SC after absolutely trouncing them last year or all the NCAA BS in national news kinda put everyone in a funk?
Tough day for Vol Nation.
Thoughts?
 
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BTO
I agree with most of this. I appreciate the time and effort. Thank you.
After watching a replay of the game ZZ and Aidoo looked disinterested for sure. But I noticed while listening on the radio that the crowd seemed very subdued as well.
Made me think if the team was looking ahead to Kittens or underestimated SC after absolutely trouncing them last year or all the NCAA BS in national news kinda put everyone in a funk?
Tough day for Vol Nation.
Thoughts?

Credit USCjr for making it very boring and keeping the crowd off of their game as a result. Pat Adams actually got UT’s crowd going.
 
#34
#34
Last night has a simple explanation, we couldn't shoot. South Carolina didn't do anything that other teams have done. We ran our offense and got open looks. No one, except DK and santi, could hit a shot. Hopefully we will write this one off emotionally and get back to shooting better!!
Yeah, that's a very simplistic breakdown, but also very appropriate. If we just shoot our averages in all 3 areas, we when going away. USCe slowed the game down and pestered our ball-handlers out front, but we got open looks and just had a night where no one but Santi managed 50% shooting, and he only took 7 shots. We shot 8%, 10%, and 15% below our seasonal average. We only committed 6 TOs. South Carolina somehow shot worse from the field than we did and only managed to connect on nine 2-pt buckets (33.3%) compared to 10 3-pt buckets (34.5%). Yes, they shot better from 3 than from 2.

Just a really odd game. Our defensive efficiency metric barely moved (it dropped 0.1 points), but our offensive efficiency metric plummeted almost a full point, and we fell nine spots in the KenPom AdjO metric from 19th to 28th.
 
#35
#35
I’m just not sure what is up with Zakai’s free throw shooting this year. He was 50% from the line tonight with two crucial misses late. And he is now 71.7% on the year when he has typically been an 84% free throw shooter. You need a lot better FT shooting from your PG than that….
 
#36
#36
I’m just not sure what is up with Zakai’s free throw shooting this year. He was 50% from the line tonight with two crucial misses late. And he is now 71.7% on the year when he has typically been an 84% free throw shooter. You need a lot better FT shooting from your PG than that….
Yeah, its weird. I guess it's fair to wonder if he focused all his time and attention on rehabbing his knee, and it's manifesting itself at the line. But at the same time, you'd think that shooting FTs was maybe the one basketball activity he could have probably still done while he was rehabbing. Who knows.
 
#37
#37
Vescovi hit a 3 with a little over 17 minutes left. Aside from that, a JJJ midrange with 10 minutes left, nobody other than Knecht made a field goal for the rest of the game.

People are asking about the press, but Tennessee went from 9:59 to 2:56 without making a field goal to set it up. Tennessee went to the free throw line four different times in the final eight minutes and missed the second free throw all four times, so there was literally no opportunity to press, between not making a bucket or making the free throws to set a press up.
 
#38
#38
Just a theory, but is there a chance SC's game plan was to not put too much effort in trying to stop DK and let him get his points but shut down everybody else with the thinking DK cannot score enough by himself to beat us. Guess I'm trying to rationalize the rest of the team can't be as bad as they looked.
 
#39
#39
Yeah, its weird. I guess it's fair to wonder if he focused all his time and attention on rehabbing his knee, and it's manifesting itself at the line. But at the same time, you'd think that shooting FTs was maybe the one basketball activity he could have probably still done while he was rehabbing. Who knows.

Yep. Free throws feels like the lowest stress physical basketball activity he could have done while recovering. I’m not sure I can say it’s still him “recovering” from his injury either, because the rest of his game looks fine. His production has dropped off some lately after starting off looking like an All-SEC caliber season. Like you said, who knows.

Maybe there is something going on in his head. You just wouldn’t expect a 13% drop at the line this year. We have to figure free throw shooting out as a team though. Knecht had two brutal misses in the 2nd half as well.
 
#40
#40
1. Very disappointing loss, can’t spin it any other way, not a season ender by any stretch of the imagination or reason to throw in the towel, but it definitely sucks. South Carolina isn’t a bad team and that won’t be considered a “bad loss” on the NCAAT resume most likely when it’s all said and done, but it sure feels like a bad loss and as tough as it is to win on the road in league play that was one you really needed to win.

2. Dalton Knecht was once again very good, not as efficient as he has been recently but he was still great and hard to think what that looks like without him. Knecht was 11-24 from the field good for 45.8%, he was 3-8 from 3 good for 37.8%. The rest of the team was 10-34 from the field good for 29.4% and 2-13 from 3 good for 15.4%. That is horrible, and pathetic, and as Barnes said postgame it’s not at all fair to Knecht to have to carry a weight like that.

3. That game resembled some recent season games, where we looked like our talents had been sucked out by the Monstars. We couldn’t hit layups, wide open 3’s, free throws, you name it. Time will tell if that was a one off fluke or if that is a bad sign of something that could show itself again down the road. Idk the exact number but it felt like about 8-10 missed open bunnies, you combine that with at least 5-7 missed FT’s (considering front ends) and you’re talking about leaving 20-25 points out there. You hold a team to 63 points on sub 35% shooting and you should win that game every time, and yet it took a miracle run at the end to even make it a game.

4. I don’t want to bash players, especially veterans, so I’ll just say that if you’ve got Zeigler who was named to the Cousy list recently and Aidoo who recently has been getting All-SEC mentions as a big man they need to be much better than they were. Nobody is going to be perfect, but both had really rough games…and then JJJ once again had another rough outing. At times it really looked as if Santi & Dalton were the only 2 who cared about the game, not sure if it was a look ahead to Kentucky or something else but it was a bad look and something the announcers mentioned multiple times.

5. Big picture as I said in the opening this one doesn’t end your season but it hurts, for multiple reasons. For starters the immediate impact is that North Carolina also suffered a bad loss last night and had we won we almost certainly would’ve moved to projected 1 seed line this morning. Instead we now tumble a spot or 2 most likely, staying on the 2 seed line probably but closing the gap we had built over others on that 2 and 3 seed line rather than moving closer towards the top seeds like we would have with a win. We talked heading into SEC play about getting to 23-8(13-5), we sit now at 15-5(5-2) with 12 games remaining, that goal is still attainable but obviously requires a 8-3 finish over the final 11. With road trips to Kentucky, A&M, Bama & SC all on the slate Tennessee obviously now really has to protect the home court and try to steal a game or two on the road. Finding a way to get a win Saturday would go a long ways towards making last nights loss a moot point, it would suck because of where we’d be had we won, but would mean that we are right back on track, but winning at Rupp is never easy.



GBO!!!!


South Carolina did a very good job of dictating the tempo last night and future opponents will try to follow that template.

Tennessee probably will never have another night of missing so many close shots while attacking the rim this season.

Seigler and Aidoo had off nights on the offensive end but Aidoo was still a staunch defender last night.

I was surprised that Dillone did not get any minutes last night.

The Kentucky game at Rupp Arena is a must win on Saturday night and I expect this team to come ready to play from the jump.
 
#41
#41
As you pointed out, we missed a huge opportunity last night. Seems like that's just how things go for this program. You get right up to the door, but it's slammed in our faces. Seemed like we only had a couple of guys who were checked in last night. Sadly, I can't say I'm surprised. It's not like some of our players haven't pulled disappearing acts before. Barring an amazing run to end the season, I'm not counting on the league championship or a #1seed. Just hope we can hang on to one of the top #2 seeds and get a favorable draw in the tournament. Yeah, I know....keep on dreaming.
Yup. My expectations for this team are back to where they were after UNC game. Barnes is a very good coach but you cannot ignore the performance of his teams is typically shaky. Win a lot of games but not championships.
 
#42
#42
Yeah, its weird. I guess it's fair to wonder if he focused all his time and attention on rehabbing his knee, and it's manifesting itself at the line. But at the same time, you'd think that shooting FTs was maybe the one basketball activity he could have probably still done while he was rehabbing. Who knows.
I heard him say he shot Fts almost his entire rehab
 
#43
#43
Yup. My expectations for this team are back to where they were after UNC game. Barnes is a very good coach but you cannot ignore the performance of his teams is typically shaky. Win a lot of games but not championships.
What could any coach do to get them to make wide open layups and jumpers? What is your solution?
 
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#45
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What could any coach do to get them to make wide open layups and jumpers? What is your solution?
No solutions are ever offered by fans venting after losses. “Bench JJJ, he sucks!” - “replace him with who”. - “surely there’s someone on our bench better”

Isn’t it ironic that the volume of posts are markedly high for the 2 days following a loss? People appear to prefer to point out what went wrong following a loss more than they want to talk about what went right after a win. What does that say about Vol fans?
 
#46
#46
No solutions are ever offered by fans venting after losses. “Bench JJJ, he sucks!” - “replace him with who”. - “surely there’s someone on our bench better”

Isn’t it ironic that the volume of posts are markedly high for the 2 days following a loss? People appear to prefer to point out what went wrong following a loss more than they want to talk about what went right after a win. What does that say about Vol fans?
Tale as old as time.
 
#47
#47
Barnes is put in a tough spot... He seems to have to make a choice of go spread and Iso/High screen with Knecht or Regular offense getting good looks thru the team.. I've been a Barnes offense critic in the past but this year the pace and spacing and use of screens is Def more modern.... Players gotta produce
 
#49
#49
No solutions are ever offered by fans venting after losses. “Bench JJJ, he sucks!” - “replace him with who”. - “surely there’s someone on our bench better”

Isn’t it ironic that the volume of posts are markedly high for the 2 days following a loss? People appear to prefer to point out what went wrong following a loss more than they want to talk about what went right after a win. What does that say about Vol fans?
…errr … what does that say about drive bys at VN? 😘
 
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