Bump Infraction

#76
#76
Unimane said:
He lied about one specific incident. He hasn't been a habitual liar in his time here. Plus, it's not like this thing wasn't easily verifiable by the NCAA on top of which he knew he was being closely monitored and two-three minutes being pretty a subjective timeframe, anyway. I find it hard to believe he would lie about this compounded by the fact that the evidence shown by all parties shows his story is completely plausible, if not likely.
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Pearl lied under that exact same scenario when confronted by the NCAA investigators with a picture of his house. If it was so innocent and basically just nothing, then the NCAA would have had a very easy time seeing no violation occurred. Instead, we get hit with a Major Violation. You do the math.
 
#80
#80
VegasVol said:
Appeals delay certainty and rarely have much benefit, unless you're trying to delay the effect of the sanctions (which also can delay rebuilding time). The chance of winning an appeal against the NCAA is remote.
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So your saying there's a chance. :thumbsup:
 
#81
#81
LawVol13 said:
Pearl lied under that exact same scenario when confronted by the NCAA investigators with a picture of his house. If it was so innocent and basically just nothing, then the NCAA would have had a very easy time seeing no violation occurred. Instead, we get hit with a Major Violation. You do the math.
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No, it's not the same, based upon the evidence provided by the NCAA themselves. The bump is, in itself, a minor deal only made major by the timing of Pearl. The issue with the picture was pretty clear, he lied, directly. This was, according to the NCAA, a 2-3 minute interaction and can easily be construed in different manners. I think that could constitute a bump. Were it 20 minutes, no. However, I get the sense that the NCAA was overly sensitive on this particular issue because of the previous issue.

So, I think my math is fine, as are my analytical skills. The NCAA was talked out of Failure to Monitor (or whatever it was) in regards to Kiffin by the university. I see no reason why this can't be the same. The lying issue is the real crux of the penalty, anyway.
 
#82
#82
Unimane said:
No, it's not the same, based upon the evidence provided by the NCAA themselves. The bump is, in itself, a minor deal only made major by the timing of Pearl. The issue with the picture was pretty clear, he lied, directly. This was, according to the NCAA, a 2-3 minute interaction and can easily be construed in different manners. I think that could constitute a bump. Were it 20 minutes, no. However, I get the sense that the NCAA was overly sensitive on this particular issue because of the previous issue.
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That's an assumption. I imagine if they found evidence that Pearl had orchestrated the bump, that could be another reason it was made major.

If the bump was so innocent as you claim, I can't imagine it would have been found to be major.
 
#83
#83
Didn't the Oak Hill coach have a different story than Jones and Pearl?
 
#84
#84
Three minutes is a long damn time for "hi, nice shoes, how about this weather we're having?"
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#86
#86
In my opinion even if it was a 3 minute conversation thats nothing. It's not like he pulled him aside into a room and showed him an amazing UT recruiting video and begged him to be a Vol. I bump into people at the grocery store and talk longer than three minutes...which is basically just enough time to say hi, how are you, how is the family, and bye! I am just not a fan of this picky rule....JMO
 
#87
#87
It really doesn't matter if you are a fan of the rule or not. The continued violations of NCAA rules is the issue here.
 
#88
#88
BasketvolsFan said:
It really doesn't matter if you are a fan of the rule or not. The continued violations of NCAA rules is the issue here.
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Yeah I know, and I know CBP screwed up and deserves whatever they decide to hit him with. I just think many of the NCAA rules are too picky.
 
#91
#91
Sudeepvol said:
How can the NCAA prove it? And it's certainly not unrealistic to think that the kid started the conversation.
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Ask USC. They were also under the illusion the NCAA would ignore the testimony of a convicted criminal against that of an assistant coach who hadn't been an admitted and proven liar in the same investigation, and many of the same COI panelists that will decide the facts in our cases, decided that one.

Does anyone really think the NCAA will take the word of Pearl & Jones over whatever source told them it was more than just a "bump"?
 
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