Bush Warns Of 'holocaust' If Iran Gets Nukes

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allvol123 said:
So he didn't have them and that is why he refused to cooperate with the international community and was interested in being invaded by a superior force which lead to his removal from power and death.
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We invade Iraq because of fear he has WMD's and might use them on this country, yet he doesn't even use them on the troops trying to hunt him down and kill him?
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
I actually totally agree with you. I'm waiting for Russia to bomb Israel and then well i'll be waiting I guess. Here's a que. for you. Do you think that the ones that are alive when this happens will go to Heaven after or at the beginning of Armageddon? Ya the fall of the states does not make me feel very comfortable right now
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There are people who believe that Christians will not experience the tribulation period and those that believe we will. It has a proper name, called pre- and post- but I can't think of the name off the top of my head.

I personally believe that Christians will not experience the tribulation period, because the Bible says He(Christ) will come like a thief in the night.

But I do believe that many, many people (and a large number of Jews) will become followers of Christ during this time.
 
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oklavol said:
We invade Iraq because of fear he has WMD's and might use them on this country, yet he doesn't even use them on the troops trying to hunt him down and kill him?
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my friend said that sadam knew that the u.s. was coming for them again, so he had them buried in the sand all over iraq.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
my friend said that sadam knew that the u.s. was coming for them again, so he had them buried in the sand all over iraq.
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Yet no documents of any kind have been found that detail the location of these alleged "weapons". I doubt anyone would just bury weapons like that and hope to find them later.
 
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oklavol said:
We invade Iraq because of fear he has WMD's and might use them on this country, yet he doesn't even use them on the troops trying to hunt him down and kill him?
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Saddam was smarter than that. Use chem weapons on US troops and you lose any sympathy you might have had in the world. He used them on his own people and the same claim has been made since 98. Do you think he woke up one day and decided to get rid of them?
 
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utvolpj said:
Saddam was smarter than that. Use chem weapons on US troops and you lose any sympathy you might have had in the world. He used them on his own people and the same claim has been made since 98. Do you think he woke up one day and decided to get rid of them?
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What good is sympathy going to do if you going to be executed?
 
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JZVOL said:
There are people who believe that Christians will not experience the tribulation period and those that believe we will. It has a proper name, called pre- and post- but I can't think of the name off the top of my head.

I personally believe that Christians will not experience the tribulation period, because the Bible says He(Christ) will come like a thief in the night.

But I do believe that many, many people (and a large number of Jews) will become followers of Christ during this time.
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Ya same here, but man that's kind of freaky. I guess cause I'm not sure what exactly to expect. Have you ever read "90 minutes in Heaven", good read
 
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JZVOL said:
I doubt he knew he was going to be executed.
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Yet he went into hiding, rather than stand around, laughing at the US troops trying to find the "WMD's". I'm sure he knew he was a dead man... with or without the weapons.
 
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Who wouldn't go into a safe place or shelter when they were being bombed?

W went to a safe place on 9/11 and I doubt he thought he was about to die.
 
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oklavol said:
We invade Iraq because of fear he has WMD's and might use them on this country, yet he doesn't even use them on the troops trying to hunt him down and kill him?
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So he chooses to defy inspectors because he does not want them to find something he does not have. A decision that will lead to his end as ruler, sounds like we are obviously dealing with a sound thinker.
 
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And add to that, you don't embed hundreds of American reporters all throughout the US forces if there is going to be a WMD attack as well. Do you think they'd willingly put the cameras right up front with the risk of showing hundreds of soldiers dying and being maimed by chem or bio weapons?

Every piece of evidence presented before the UN by Colin Powell failed to be produced after our arrival. Are you telling me thousands of gallons of weapons we had satellite photos of just up and disappeared overnight without any evidence? It's hard to make as many weapons as we claimed he had just disappear without a trace without someone snitching or satellite or recon intel proving otherwise.
 
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allvol123 said:
So he chooses to defy inspectors because he does not want them to find something he does not have. A decision that will lead to his end as ruler, sounds like we are obviously dealing with a sound thinker.
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He defied inspectors because he was protecting his nation's sovereignty. Do you think GWB would allow UN inspectors free access anywhere if the UN approved a resolution to search? He survived up until 9/11. Considering he had nothing to do with 9/11 he assumed that his means and ability to survive, even though limited, would remain. He didn't count on being made a scapegoat for a war on terror. He was hoping on more sound thinking from GWB. Seeing Iraq now, I guess GWB was the more sound thinker.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
He defied inspectors because he was protecting his nation's sovereignty. Do you think GWB would allow UN inspectors free access anywhere if the UN approved a resolution to search? He survived up until 9/11. Considering he had nothing to do with 9/11 he assumed that his means and ability to survive, even though limited, would remain. He didn't count on being made a scapegoat for a war on terror. He was hoping on more sound thinking from GWB. Seeing Iraq now, I guess GWB was the more sound thinker.
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He was protecting their sovereignty? Is that what you call the northern and southern no fly zones? Protecting your sovereignty?

Also, he let them in sometimes, so he only was interested in protecting their sovereignty sometimes?
 
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JZVOL said:
Again it can be found in the Bible.
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I totally agree with you..... I'm not going to predict the end of time or anything, but things are happening as it is written. The written word may take 2 years to 500 years to be complete who knows, but personally I'm not worried because there's a special place for me when my time comes. :peace2:
 
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allvol123 said:
He was protecting their sovereignty? Is that what you call the northern and southern no fly zones? Protecting your sovereignty?

Also, he let them in sometimes, so he only was interested in protecting their sovereignty sometimes?
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It's a little difficult to do something about the no-fly zones when you have no air force and you're pitted against the US Air Force. This is a little different than repelling inspectors. When you're weaker militarily you protect where and when you can.

When he let them in, he allowed them in controlled areas. It was under his conditions. Nice try but still short.
 
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I see. So it seems his plan to protect his nation's sovereignty has gone miserably as well as his plan to stay alive. Seems a lot to risk when you have nothing to hide, but as you say he was protecting his conuntry's soveriegnty. Sounds like you know a great deal about coming up short.
 
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Wow, so what about the bodies of the people in Iraq that were dug up who died from lead poisoning or low grade chemical warfare. How was their national sovereignty protected? I am sorry to all liberals who feel burdened by doing the right thing but we needed a base in the middle east and now we have one. And Iraqis are better for it. Yes, we payed a price and continue to pay it but it is worth it. If you think it is not worth it than you are not seeing the big picture.
 
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Jewbaccah said:
Wow, so what about the bodies of the people in Iraq that were dug up who died from lead poisoning or low grade chemical warfare. How was their national sovereignty protected? I am sorry to all liberals who feel burdened by doing the right thing but we needed a base in the middle east and now we have one. And Iraqis are better for it. Yes, we payed a price and continue to pay it but it is worth it. If you think it is not worth it than you are not seeing the big picture.
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Good thing this country doesn't have to worry about balanced budgets, spending, debt, or anything like that.

I'm still amazed at conservatives who view Iraq as a bigger threat of having WMD's then Iran is.
 
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oklavol said:
Good thing this country doesn't have to worry about balanced budgets, spending, debt, or anything like that.

I'm still amazed at conservatives who view Iraq as a bigger threat of having WMD's then Iran is.
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I'm not sure conservatives view Iran as no threat. I think it is more looking at it realistically. We would have no chance at success in Iran in Iraq we do have a chance. Iran is 4 times bigger with 5 times the population it would be impossible to occupy. So you pick your battles sometimes.
 
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