Butch Jones out to spark a renaissance at Tennessee - SI.com

[butchna]

I would say that in a game like that, at home, where we will be the underdogs with a 2 - 2 record, that he will pull out all of the stops to get the win. We need momentum for the next 7 games and a win at home against UGA will give us the momentum.

Reverses, fake reverses, flea flickers, etc. etc. anything goes.....

We're going to see a halfback jump pass to the tight end this season...Cincy against Syracuse highlights last season
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[GoVols15]

I was hopeful with CDD and encouraged people to support him until he showed he couldn't do it. He did many things that made me hopeful.

The V4L program.
Promoting character and integrity in the team.
The "almost-upset" at LSU.
He was smart, well spoken, and witty.
He seemed to have a system.

In the end, he proved that he wasn't the man to do it, and the job was too big for him. That's easy to read back into things with 20/20 hindsight. But he was the UT HFC and needed our support.

Now, as more and more comes out (recruiting failures, burned bridges, prickish personality, coach/player interrelationships, etc...) we see some of the reasons why he failed. But in real time, supporting him through the rebuild was the best option any of us had.



Well said! I agree 100%! I supported Dooley up until about half way through last year. Really I knew it was over after the 4th Quarter against the Gators but I still was holding out some hope. Now with all this stuff coming out on Dooley, one has to wonder how anyone could defend Dooley.

 

[Oskie Volum]

Good Gosh Oskie, are you still fighting this same argument in this same thread. You do not sway on your opinion I will give you that liked Dooley too and really thought he may be a good coach. He proved me wrong. I have moved on. You should support our current Coach until he proves us wrong as well. He is currently doing a lot more for the school I love then any other head coach is.

As long as people keep using him as a scapegoat and have to keep digging at the guy I will keep bringing it. People act like he had a diamond and turn it into a turd instead of the reverse.

Btw - I keep reading comments about all this new info on Dooley that has come out that makes him look bad. Please direct me in the direction of all this new info. Hopefully it is actual info not he said she said stuff by jaded corrupt HS coaches in Memphis, etc.

 

[sjrobert]

Btw - I keep reading comments about all this new info on Dooley that has come out that makes him look bad. Please direct me in the direction of all this new info.

Google is your friend!

 

[Orange_Crush]

Google is your friend!

After only two minutes on that wondrous new magic site:

In a Times Free Press early-season poll of 37 prep coaches from southeast Tennessee, northwest Georgia and northeast Alabama, 32 gave Dooley and his staff a failing grade for recruiting rapport and overall communication and effectiveness. Those coaches admitted the lack of familiarity and comfort level in dealing with the UT staff directly affected the recruitment of any current or future prospects in their program.

"If Derek Dooley had stayed as their coach, I would've had a hard time advising any player to go there," current Hixson and former Rhea County coach Jason Fitzgerald said this past week. "That staff didn't follow up or return calls, and really I had no idea who even recruits our area for UT because I've never had one of their coaches come through my door.

"I can tell you who recruits our school for Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, Missouri and even Tennessee Tech, because I have personally seen them here and get phone calls and emails from those schools and others," added Fitzgerald, who played in the SEC at Auburn. "The only thing I ever heard from UT since Dooley was there was to advertise their camp and tell me how much it would cost."

The lack-of-communication complaint was echoed by all 37 coaches who responded to the poll, and each said the staffs under former coaches Phillip Fulmer and Lane Kiffin seemed to care more about building a working relationship.

"To be honest, a lot of high school coaches in the state felt like Derek came across as arrogant," Fitzgerald added. "We talked about that at coaches' meetings around the state for several years, actually. It wasn't just in the Chattanooga area; it was coaches all over the state. Derek is highly intelligent, but it just came off as him proving how smart he is when he talks. He just has no people skills."

"They were terrible," said one northwest Georgia coach who has six players currently on rosters at FBS programs but asked to remain anonymous. "All I can do is compare them with everybody else that recruits our kids, and they were not consistent. We have one kid they are recruiting now, and to be honest, if they had been courting him the way some of the other schools have, he would have already committed there. But they were not doing a very good job and keep slipping further down his list. I think they're going to lose him."

"I didn't like that staff, to be honest," Price said. "I grew up in this state and I would go to the games about every week and wanted to support them. I'm a Tennessee fan, but we never heard anything from them. Not even a visit just to introduce who was recruiting our area or a call or anything. It was like they didn't care whether they had any relationship with us at all, so how would we ever feel good about sending a kid there once we had one they wanted?

Tri-state area teams ignored by Dooley staff | timesfreepress.com

 

[VolinWayne]

As long as people keep using him as a scapegoat and have to keep digging at the guy I will keep bringing it. People act like he had a diamond and turn it into a turd instead of the reverse.

Btw - I keep reading comments about all this new info on Dooley that has come out that makes him look bad. Please direct me in the direction of all this new info. Hopefully it is actual info not he said she said stuff by jaded corrupt HS coaches in Memphis, etc.

I think at this point people may be actually gigging you more then Dooley. Dooley has moved on. So should you. He is being very well compensated for not having enough time

 

[Oskie Volum]

After only two minutes on that wondrous new magic site:

Tri-state area teams ignored by Dooley staff | timesfreepress.com

Seriously man. I said NEW news. People are acting like there is soooo much stuff coming out on the guy. So give me some NEW info.

 

[VolsRule]

dooley got hired with a bad record only because of his dad's name, was a total failure, got paid millions to lose and then got paid more millions to leave. Is this a great country or what!

 

[Orange_Crush]

Seriously man. I said NEW news. People are acting like there is soooo much stuff coming out on the guy. So give me some NEW info.

No. People are acting like the original information was crack-rock bad enough 32 of 37 high school coaches polled gave him an F. 4 out of 5 dentists will tell you that'll rot your teeth.

 

[sjrobert]

Seriously man. I said NEW news. People are acting like there is soooo much stuff coming out on the guy. So give me some NEW info.

And why should anyone give you any information? Use the net to get it. Your position is similar to the extinction of Dinosaurs. When are you "going to GET it" that Dooley is long gone. Everything you come up with is immaterial and patently offensive to almost everyone's sensibilities. You are wasting valuable cyberspace with your inane comments.

 

[Orange_Crush]

And why should anyone give you any information? Use the net to get it. Your position is similar to the extinction of Dinosaurs. When are you "going to GET it" that Dooley is long gone. Everything you come up with is immaterial and patently offensive to almost everyone's sensibilities. You are wasting valuable cyberspace with your inane comments.

Be careful. He'll start calling you "darlin" and making "keep this up" comments. Then he'll ignore every rational point you make, ask for new information because he won't face the original facts, base his "facts" on unsubstantiated supposition, pick a fight with you when you make a passing comment and admit it's only unsubstantiated supposition, claim that you're too dumb to see his point of view, and end it all with the obligatory "imho".

You're on thin ice sjrobert. Just keep it up... See what happens.

 

[sjrobert]

Be careful. He'll start calling you "darlin" and making "keep this up" comments. Then he'll ignore every rational point you make, ask for new information because he won't face the original facts, base his "facts" on unsubstantiated supposition, pick a fight with you when you make a passing comment and admit it's only unsubstantiated supposition, claim that you're too dumb to see his point of view, and end it all with the obligatory "imho".

Yes, amazing how strong the cult of personality can become to some.

 

[Oskie Volum]

Be careful. He'll start calling you "darlin" and making "keep this up" comments. Then he'll ignore every rational point you make, ask for new information because he won't face the original facts, base his "facts" on unsubstantiated supposition, pick a fight with you when you make a passing comment and admit it's only unsubstantiated supposition, claim that you're too dumb to see his point of view, and end it all with the obligatory "imho".

You're on thin ice sjrobert. Just keep it up... See what happens.

The info u give is old news. You have been a failure of convincing me cause all you do is repeat the same info that has been on this site for a long time. Nothing you said was new. I've seen it already. Get new material cause frankly you showed you can't argue with an original thought.

 

[butchna]

This is so much fun...back in the 70s in Chattanooga there was a morning TV personality..Harry Thornton I think was his name...he made his career stating opinions that would have normally levelheaded people screaming and cussing at their television to the point of organ failure...he also hosted Georgia Championship Wrestling fwiw...I like Oskie...if Butch wins he'll find something else
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[sjrobert]

The info u give is old news. You have been a failure of convincing me cause all you do is repeat the same info that has been on this site for a long time. Nothing you said was new. I've seen it already. Get new material cause frankly you showed you can't argue with an original thought.

And, which one of your oft-repeated mantras are original thoughts?

 

[Orange_Crush]

Be careful. He'll start calling you "darlin" and making "keep this up" comments. Then he'll ignore every rational point you make, ask for new information because he won't face the original facts, base his "facts" on unsubstantiated supposition, pick a fight with you when you make a passing comment and admit it's only unsubstantiated supposition, claim that you're too dumb to see his point of view, and end it all with the obligatory "imho".

You're on thin ice sjrobert. Just keep it up... See what happens.

The info u give is old news. You have been a failure of convincing me cause all you do is repeat the same info that has been on this site for a long time. Nothing you said was new. I've seen it already. Get new material cause frankly you showed you can't argue with an original thought.

Like clockwork.