Butch Jones stays on go in rebuilding Vols

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OK, I get it.

Butch Jones stays "on go" in rebuilding Vols. Punctuation is a lost art in the media.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
As I said, flame on......Jones was a top target.
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No you plainly typed "Jones was number 1" quit lying, it belittles you.

You need to keep on believing Gruden is coming. VN needs someone to laugh at.
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Gruden was never coming here and I never supported him coming here. Keep it up, I have a big red nose, a curly blue wig and oversized shoes ready for you.:spank:
 
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RoyNWendy said:
If I remember correctly, Strong was the top candidate but politely declined. Butch was second according to what information was released. There was a "supposed" phone call to Gruden's agent but who knows or even cares at this point.
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You forgot OSU's Gundy. Jones was allowed to be seriously considered, offered, by both Purdue and Colorado and we never flinched. Why?

Because he was "down the list" and in the "down the list" group were several other coaches that Hart et al considered were nearly equal.

If anything, the fact that Jones had creamed himself when at Neyland [and who knows how many off record contacts he made to UT] may have shoved him into a first call when Gruden, Strong and Gundy ran away. Hart was in trouble, recruiting season was fading rapidly and he didn't want the embarrassment of being turned down four times whether that was in fact the reality or not. That's what was being reported.

So he picked on Jones probably figuring that at worst he could keep him a couple of years or so and dump him more or less what he did with Dooley.

Which, I still believe is his strategy here. My bet Jones is well aware of the short leash he has and one way to keep the wolves at bay is to go full tilt with the fanbase.
 
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Is this volbraniac a reincarnation of some of the "insiders" who appear to have vanished in disgrace after the Gruden disaster?
 
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daj2576 said:
Is this volbraniac a reincarnation of some of the "insiders" who appear to have vanished in disgrace after the Gruden disaster?
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BOOM!

I stand by my put that Jones AND Strong were at the top of the list with Jones one. Gundy was as real as Gruden.
 
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Volbraniac is just one of the many many trolls on this board. I kind of wish people would quit quoting him. I have him blocked and reading his stuff makes me feel slightly dirty.
 
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Daloth said:
Volbraniac is just one of the many many trolls on this board. I kind of wish people would quit quoting him. I have him blocked and reading his stuff makes me feel slightly dirty.
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I only have one guy blocked because his stuff is too ignorant to tolerate. I can read VB88's stuff, this guy is about as bad, but he is basically VB88 - 10.
 
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I guarantee you one thing, there are only a handful of people that know EXACTLY what lead to Coach Jones' hiring, and it isn't ANYONE on VN. I would love to know for sure, but as of now, I just have to stand by what my buddy told me.
 
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VolBraniac said:
Yes but then you're the only knucklehead posting to this thread...so far.
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Now, now, VolBraniac, you know that's not true. You have five illuminated knuckles on your head a fact you proudly display via your avatar. :)
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I guarantee you one thing, there are only a handful of people that know EXACTLY what lead to Coach Jones' hiring, and it isn't ANYONE on VN. I would love to know for sure, but as of now, I just have to stand by what my buddy told me.
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Anyone who thought Gruden was coming here is an idiot.Anyone who believes Jones was choice one is equally stupid. Numerous reports that contradict that theory. Strong was the first to get an offer. Others like Gundy were met with to gauge interest before we offered Strong
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
And you know this how? Have a friend that is a personal acquaintance of elder Mr. Haslam.

1. Gruden never a target....smokescreen.
2. Jones number one target.
3. Strong number two.

Flame away, I don't care. I believe him, you don't have too.
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I have also heard number 1 was true from a reputable source. I don't know about the order of 2 and 3. Heard exactly the opposite from the same source. But I did hear that Strong and Jones were the only 2 offered the position. Gundy never was offered, and the Stillwater media saying he was is pulling a story out of their arse.
 
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volfanhill said:
Anyone who thought Gruden was coming here is an idiot.Anyone who believes Jones was choice one is equally stupid. Numerous reports that contradict that theory. Strong was the first to get an offer. Others like Gundy were met with to gauge interest before we offered Strong
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Interest from Gundy existed just wasn't reciprocated after the interview.
 
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VolBraniac said:
You forgot OSU's Gundy. Jones was allowed to be seriously considered, offered, by both Purdue and Colorado and we never flinched. Why?

Because he was "down the list" and in the "down the list" group were several other coaches that Hart et al considered were nearly equal.

If anything, the fact that Jones had creamed himself when at Neyland [and who knows how many off record contacts he made to UT] may have shoved him into a first call when Gruden, Strong and Gundy ran away. Hart was in trouble, recruiting season was fading rapidly and he didn't want the embarrassment of being turned down four times whether that was in fact the reality or not. That's what was being reported.

So he picked on Jones probably figuring that at worst he could keep him a couple of years or so and dump him more or less what he did with Dooley.

Which, I still believe is his strategy here. My bet Jones is well aware of the short leash he has and one way to keep the wolves at bay is to go full tilt with the fanbase.
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I agree with all you have said other than assuming he does not think Butch will be here for the long haul. You may have more insider information than I know (which I have none, just a fan on the outside looking in). Looking at Hart's record indicates he does know what he is doing. I was sceptical at first but I know think he has found the future of our program. Whether by chance or luck, it is working thus far with recruiting and igniting a fire in the fan base.
 
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VolBraniac said:
You forgot OSU's Gundy. Jones was allowed to be seriously considered, offered, by both Purdue and Colorado and we never flinched. Why?

Because he was "down the list" and in the "down the list" group were several other coaches that Hart et al considered were nearly equal.

If anything, the fact that Jones had creamed himself when at Neyland [and who knows how many off record contacts he made to UT] may have shoved him into a first call when Gruden, Strong and Gundy ran away. Hart was in trouble, recruiting season was fading rapidly and he didn't want the embarrassment of being turned down four times whether that was in fact the reality or not. That's what was being reported.

So he picked on Jones probably figuring that at worst he could keep him a couple of years or so and dump him more or less what he did with Dooley.

Which, I still believe is his strategy here. My bet Jones is well aware of the short leash he has and one way to keep the wolves at bay is to go full tilt with the fanbase.
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I think its more like the opposite of what you said. Hart Knows if Jones doesn't work out it will probably cost him his job.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
BOOM!

I stand by my put that Jones AND Strong were at the top of the list with Jones one. Gundy was as real as Gruden.
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That's ridiculous. Hart flew on a plane to Louisville for what? To tell Strong he was his number two choice? What about Gundy and his very public rejection. All before Hart offered Jones. And by the way anyone who has spent time around Hart can tell you what an ass he is.
 
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Daloth said:
Volbraniac is just one of the many many trolls on this board. I kind of wish people would quit quoting him. I have him blocked and reading his stuff makes me feel slightly dirty.
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Never brag about putting someone on ignore......that topic was covered extensively in the unwritten rules thread.
 
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Exfix said:
That's ridiculous. Hart flew on a plane to Louisville for what? To tell Strong he was his number two choice? What about Gundy and his very public rejection. All before Hart offered Jones. And by the way anyone who has spent time around Hart can tell you what an ass he is.
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That's funny I haven't spent any time around you and I can tell what type of person you are for making such a baseless statement like you made above! You must be an insider in the UT athletic department! Lol! Either that or you are so naive as to believe everything you read on message boards and then regurgitate it as fact.
 
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strong did Hart and VN a big favor , I'm so damn glad Butch is our coach and he will have my support until he proves otherwise. l'ville sucks.
 
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