Bye-bye F-35?

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Tyndall Air Force Base sustained 'catastrophic' damage during Hurricane Michael

Tyndall Air Force Base suffered catastrophic damage when Hurricane Michael tore through the Florida Panhandle, ripping roofs off airplane hangars, tossing vehicles around a parking lot and leaving a fighter jet that had been on display flipped over on the ground.

The home to the nation's 325th Fighter Wing "took a beating," Col. Brian Laidlaw said in a letter posted Thursday night to the 3,600 men and women stationed at the base located 12 miles east of Panama City. The Air Force evacuated the base in advance of the storm's arrival Wednesday afternoon.
 
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Mick said:
Tyndall Air Force Base sustained 'catastrophic' damage during Hurricane Michael

Tyndall Air Force Base suffered catastrophic damage when Hurricane Michael tore through the Florida Panhandle, ripping roofs off airplane hangars, tossing vehicles around a parking lot and leaving a fighter jet that had been on display flipped over on the ground.

The home to the nation's 325th Fighter Wing "took a beating," Col. Brian Laidlaw said in a letter posted Thursday night to the 3,600 men and women stationed at the base located 12 miles east of Panama City. The Air Force evacuated the base in advance of the storm's arrival Wednesday afternoon.
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Shades of Homestead in 92.

The major issue is we don't have as many bases now if they were to try to rebuild elsewhere
 
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Grand Vol said:
Shades of Homestead in 92.

The major issue is we don't have as many bases now if they were to try to rebuild elsewhere
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I don't know how many they have, but this one seems strategic to the gulf and Florida. How many do they have in Florida?
 
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Mick said:
I don't know how many they have, but this one seems strategic to the gulf and Florida. How many do they have in Florida?
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Homestead, Elgin, Tyndall, MacDill, NAS Pensacola, NAS Jacksonville all come to mind.

Fla was a jumping off point back in the Cold War days for point defense interceptors as well as reconnaissance. Same for TX.
 
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Mick said:
I don't know how many they have, but this one seems strategic to the gulf and Florida. How many do they have in Florida?
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Several, but the problem is the location was outstanding in regards to being able to use Eglin's ranges and controlled airspace over the Gulf.

I stand corrected, apparently the training mission moved a few years ago.
 
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Belgium picks Lockheed's F-35 over Eurofighter Typhoon on price
Robin Emmott



BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Belgium said on Thursday it had chosen Lockheed Martin’s (LMT.N) F-35 stealth jets over the Eurofighter Typhoon to replace its aging F-16s in a 4 billion euro ($4.55 billion) deal, saying the decision came down to price

After months of deliberation, the decision to buy 34 of the planes was announced at a government news conference.

Belgium joins a list of other European NATO allies, including Britain, the Netherlands, Italy and Turkey, to take the American-made plane, which is also set to be the U.S. military’s main fighter aircraft for decades to come.

"We have landed! This government is investing heavily in defense. With the purchase of F-35A fighter planes ... we ensure your safety and that of our military," Belgian Defence Minister Steven Vandeput said on Twitter during the news conference.


"The offer from the Americans was the best in all our seven evaluation criteria," he later told reporters.


The jets, which can avoid detection and tracking by enemy radars or heat sensors, aim to offer NATO allies technological superiority with additional capabilities such as the ability to disrupt enemy communications networks and navigation signals.

The pick makes Belgium the 12th country to choose the F-35, which comes in three variants - the F-35A conventional take-off and landing model, the F-35B, a short take-off or vertical landing version, and the F-35C, used aboard aircraft carriers.

Belgium has chosen the conventional version of the plane, with the first deliveries scheduled for 2023.

Vice Admiral Mat Winter, U.S. F-35 program chief, said the decision would further strengthen ties between the United States and Belgium and make it easier for the two countries' air forces to work together on future missions.

The decision is a setback for Britain, Germany, Italy and Spain, who are behind the Eurofighter program, and also means the rejection of an informal French offer to sell Belgium the Rafale fighter built by Dassault Aviation (AVMD.PA)......
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Full Article Link: Belgium picks F-35 over Eurofighter
 
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F-35’s List of Flaws Includes a Gun That Can’t Shoot Straight

Question, how can they not find any failings in the flying capabilities, yet turn around and say they have Category 1 issues that affect safety and combat capability? Also, more software issues from a major aircraft manufacturer.

The annual assessment by Robert Behler, the Defense Department’s director of operational test and evaluation, doesn’t disclose any major new failings in the plane’s flying capabilities. But it flags a long list of issues that his office said should be resolved -- including 13 described as Category 1 “must-fix” items that affect safety or combat capability -- before the F-35’s upcoming $22 billion Block 4 phase.

The number of software deficiencies totaled 873 as of November, according to the report obtained by Bloomberg News in advance of its release as soon as Friday. That’s down from 917 in September 2018, when the jet entered the intense combat testing required before full production, including 15 Category 1 items. What was to be a year of testing has now been extended another year until at least October.
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I swore there was a thread for this and searched "f-35" and "f35" and this thread didn't turn up. Actually, nothing turned up. Ended up posting in the Politics of Debt thread. Sometimes I don't even try site search because it's so bad.
 
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Only 873 software flaws? From an engineer that’s worked DoD contracting for 30+ years could somebody please point me to where they keep their software engineers? I think we’d like to poach them.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I swore there was a thread for this and searched "f-35" and "f35" and this thread didn't turn up. Actually, nothing turned up. Ended up posting in the Politics of Debt thread. Sometimes I don't even try site search because it's so bad.
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F-35 is a short search term. I think you need 4 letters or more to do a proper search. The hyphen apparently doesn't count as a letter.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Only 873 software flaws? From an engineer that’s worked DoD contracting for 30+ years could somebody please point me to where they keep their software engineers? I think we’d like to poach them.
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The point is that government does ****** work and your government experience is no measuring stick ; )
 
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n_huffhines said:
The point is that government does ****** work and your government experience is no measuring stick ; )
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They must have been responsible for your education then.



Relax, it's a joke. I'm no fan of the big government cure all.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I swore there was a thread for this and searched "f-35" and "f35" and this thread didn't turn up. Actually, nothing turned up. Ended up posting in the Politics of Debt thread. Sometimes I don't even try site search because it's so bad.
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Don't use the forums search engine, just use google.

-type this into google

f 35 volnation.com
 
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n_huffhines said:
The point is that government does ****** work and your government experience is no measuring stick ; )
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I was in the lab working on software integration when I wrote that post. I later showed the article snippet on software defects to the software engineer I was working with and he’s line “only 873 defects coming out of OT Eval? Wow that’s pretty good!” No I’m not exaggerating.

The article, as usual, was written for shock value. While we were in the lab this afternoon integrating software modifications we isolated and corrected four “defects”.

I went completely thru that article trying to find any detailed ranking criteria. There wasn’t any really, just “class 1” with no details. And we won’t ever see details.

The gun issue did raise my eyebrows only slightly. I would have guessed that would have been found in the DT evaluation phase. Finding in OT seems a tad late but since it was weapons related and tied to fatigue maybe they needed enough cycles on it to detect it. Don’t really know, wasn’t enough information.

But... that is exactly why DT (Design/Developmental Testing) and OT (Operational Testing) are performed.
 
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'Murican engineering. The Military version of the Boeing 737 Max

F-35 Stealth Jet Still Has 871 Flaws Including Some "Potentially Serious Issues" | ZeroHedge

"The F-35 continues to have many flaws. Many of those flaws have already been discovered during the development and testing phase, which ended with 941 flaws in April 2018," Robert Behler, the director of operational testing, said in a new assessment seen by Bloomberg.
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An independent cost analysis shows the F-35 program will need tens of billions of dollars more over the next several years for upgrades, research and development, aircraft procurement, operations and maintenance.

Behler wrote, "the overall number of open deficiencies has not changed significantly" since early 2019, adding that "due to ongoing problems with initial software quality" and "limited lab and flight test capability, resulting in a high rate of problem discoveries" found in the field.
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85SugarVol said:
The article is about security concerns. Did you read it?
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I read that. Seems like a rather weak excuse. You know going in that there are going to be security measures. If the weapons are really necessary and are vastly superior than anything else available, seems like this would be a minor consequence.

Obviously, they either don't need our weapons after all or they have a better deal cooking with someone else.
 
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85SugarVol said:
The article is about security concerns. Did you read it?
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Yea...if NATO Turkey is having difficulty as a partner in the program, then what does one expect from UAE? Not to mention the Israeli concerns. Not like this is news as this deal always been contentious. The F-35 program is actually kicking ass with foreign orders
 
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