'19 CA LB Henry To'oto'o (Tennessee Signee)

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VOLINVONORE said:
So coaching has little or nothing to do with the success of a sports team. Kentucky Kansas, Duke etc all have 4-5 star teams with a lot of them still are playing in year two and three of their college years. I am not saying that talent dos not matter, just that you don't have to have all 4-5 star players to be very good. Basketball also requires depth. Basketball players are injured and they can not play 40 minutes agame every game without some rest. I am also saying recruiting talent who are not 4-5 star players can be done and the team can be successful. I realize that players who are bigger, faster, and stronger makes coaching a lot easier. To me in football, speed is the most important physical trait-requirement that is most difficult to teach, followed by attitude. Even the Bear learned that he needed bigger players to win and he won a lot of football games and titles. If you recruit a bunch of 4-5 star football players, it makes it easier for you to win football and basketball games. However, it does not mean you will win titles in either sport. Coaching does matter.
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My point is that college football and college basketball are not really comparable. It takes much less time to get a winning nucleus in basketball than football. Hell, you are talking what a 15-20 man roster versus an 85-100 man roster (I know it's 85 scholarship)? Those numbers speak for themselves. I don't know who you were conversing with that said coaching didn't matter, but it wasn't me. My only issue here is that I think college football and college basketball are so wildly different in the way they are structured and in the way the games are played that they are apples and oranges that really can't be fairly compared. I've written here before that I think our football program has been down so long that we are going to have to, by necessity, do a more Kentucky football style rebuild which takes time, and which I think is sort of in line with what you are saying. I just think that's a more apt comparison than pointing to a totally different sport with totally different rules, both on and off the court.
 
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PYSCHO said:
When are you all going to figure out that butch jones top 10 class was a joke. God some of you are not real shsrp. You can have all the stars you want but if you can not coach anybody you have nothing and stars are based off camping so butch had a lot of campers that were not good especially with that jack wad st the helm.
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Agreed. It was Fool's Gold.
 
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Some people don't know crap about people like JohnD13, calling me in denial like a little kid a few days back for saying I had doubts Hubbs heard anything directly after the staffs night visit. I didn't say he was for sure going anywhere, I had never even conversed with JohnD13. I have 45 years of following UT I am not in denial about nothing. But jerks behind keyboards can post anything these days I guess. No biggie to me, but just shows the lack of respect or maturity. I simply gave a opinion and he comes this stupid denial comment. I never said nothing but we got a chance, but I am in denial. He probably will go to Washington, I don't know. But I have seen enough signing days to know it's not over till they sign. So next time just move on if your going to try some stupid comment about what I say.
 
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buffaloblue said:
What’s the latest here?
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You will find some on this board that will tell you what they think they know. And if you don't agree with them or even think they may be wrong you will be in denial. Good day and GO VOLS!!!!! The Vols are on the right path back and we have the coach to get it done. We won't get to the top over night but we are going to get there. GBO!!!!!
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
You will find some on this board that will tell you what they think they know. And if you don't agree with them or even think they may be wrong you will be in denial. Good day and GO VOLS!!!!! The Vols are on the right path back and we have the coach to get it done. We won't get to the top over night but we are going to get there. GBO!!!!!
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Ummm been on the recruiting forum for 10 years. Last I saw talk was UW but wasn’t sure if anything had changed. They do that in recruiting.
 
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Volzfan38024 said:
I wouldn't call it lack of understanding the scheme. Definitely lack of strength and conditioning from Butch. Base defenses will get a push in the backfield often. QBs had all day to pass on us last year. Hopefully a year stronger under Pruitt helps.
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You wouldn't call it lack of understanding, when, everyone everywhere says exactly the same thing. It takes until the second year for the defense change to be effective. Georgia, Alabama both went thru the change, second year, marked improvement. It wasn't that they suddenly got physically bigger or healthier, those attributes assist but do not make a defense, or offense.
 
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Kinglberry said:
You wouldn't call it lack of understanding, when, everyone everywhere says exactly the same thing. It takes until the second year for the defense change to be effective. Georgia, Alabama both went thru the change, second year, marked improvement. It wasn't that they suddenly got physically bigger or healthier, those attributes assist but do not make a defense, or offense.
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Everyone else? It doesn't matter what defense your in. Its the dlines job to get to the QB on passing downs, and it was terrible last year.
 
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buffaloblue said:
What’s the latest here?
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Nobody knows. I'm guessing this time of the year brings out a lot of 'insiders' who claim they know something. But I doubt a kid and his family is going to say anything to random strangers about a 4 year life decision. Same with the coaches. I would imagine they are much too busy to drop hints on the internet or spend a lot of time talking about specific recruits with insiders. I also doubt a coach would get on the internet to give the fans any information.
 
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KBVol said:
No lol. Dooley’s 3 classes averaged a 13th national ranking....Jones’ classes average over 5 years?.....13th nationally.

Oh yeah......Jones’ average player rating? 88.24. Dooley’s? 88.45.
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Dooley didn’t lose half his class because of lies either. He may not have won a lot but he at least kept his players
 
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"To'oto'o is really one of the hardest prospects to figure out in recent years because he does not do many interviews at all so it's difficult to gauge exactly what he's thinking. Plus, the people around him keep things quiet as well so it's a little bit of a guessing game when it comes to his final landing spot. It really feels like it's down to Alabama and Tennessee. I know he had a fantastic visit to Knoxville a few weeks ago and that the departure of Tosh Lupoi from Alabama has to help the Vols even more. But To'oto'o was in Tuscaloosa last weekend and now coach Nick Saban is expected to do his in-home visit later this week. It is hard for me to believe that when Saban comes to town and when the Crimson Tide really want somebody that they won't win that recruiting battle. This one is close and the information is sparse but I'm going to lean Alabama over Tennessee for the four-star linebacker."
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-- Gorney

I didn't see this posted yet... From Alabama Rivals claiming it it is still a UT vs UA battle.
 
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wrangler said:
You may want to find out exactly what went on behind the curtain before saying Pruitt "missed" and "couldn't close". What we do know is the top players UT did "close", and that contradicts such cavalier criticism. On players we didn't get, pointing fingers to assign blame is pretty tough when you're not in the room when decisions are made by kids who can be unpredictable and indecisive, and when you don't know what was done and said by all the recuiters involved. And the more top players you go after, the more you won't get, but also the more you will get. And more wins will only help.

Further, the recruiting class is a package, with simultaneous recruiting of many prospects, and should be looked at as a whole. And the only real evaluation is how that package works out for the team in the next few years, meshing with current players and future recruiting classes.
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Don’t listen to that guy. Pruitt has brought in solid D- line prospects....savion Williams isnprob glong to be a starter this year and we still have Greg Emerson and emit gooden coming along.
 
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Volzfan38024 said:
Everyone else? It doesn't matter what defense your in. Its the dlines job to get to the QB on passing downs, and it was terrible last year.
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Actually, it does matter, different philosophies and responsibilities by your players, just because you may think that on a certain play a certain player should be attacking the QB, his coaches and scheme may be having him fill a hole, gap to prevent something else. The 34 defense is predicated on linebackers and corners coming in certain situations, once they understand those situations better they attack better. Many times during the season we saw these same plays occur, only to see the linebacker or corner suddenly stop and contain, a previous teaching they hadn't shed yet. The previous defensive style and scheme was more about the line making pressure and the edges playing contain, this one is different, depending on situation. Once these players have learned more they know what to do more instinctively. That takes time, this isn't your backyard football game where you go on 3 Mississippi.
 
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PruittEra said:
Dooley didn’t lose half his class because of lies either. He may not have won a lot but he at least kept his players
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The star QB and star WR were both head cases who openly rebelled against Dooley and then left early. Dooley tolerated more from those two than he should have, which seriously undermined his authority as HC. His options were to sit them on the bench or suspend them from the team, which would have further alienated fans whose support he needed badly in a rebuilding period with a very weak roster. We are talking about fans who ridiculed Dooley mercilessly for working through a broken hip. Everyone should have known that he was working in extreme pain, but our fans did not care. The legions of the miserable held sway. Short story is that Dooley gave it his best shot, but lost control of the staff and team, lost respect of the fans, and lost his limited ability to coach effectively and recruit quality players into the program.
 
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