'18 CA QB JT Shrout (UT signee)

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BruinVol said:
Shrout has measurables behind his rankings with terrible results

Penix might not have the same impressive measurables but he shows excellent results.

You can't measure "IT" for QBs and the results show his kid doesn't have it
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A lot of times what he has around him can hurt his stats or his coach just saying go out there and make a play. He has all the intangibles and nothing that QB coaching can't fix. You just can't solely base how good a player is simply by looking at his HS stats.If he plays on a bad team,may not have receivers who can catch it the ball consistently. He could be having to do everything on his own. But size and arm strength aren't taught. The mistakes and mechanics stuff are easily fixable.If NFL scouts are high on him and our coach's want him thats all that matters. And he's committed to Cal, which has put more QB's in the NFL than we have the last 20 yrs.
 
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His last game stats:

13 of 48 passing
.271 Completion %
3 Tds
4 int

totals for last 5 games:
57/133
.430
7 tds
9 int

Assuming these are all his passes and not a backup at any point.

i cant get very excited. I do see he has some good things going for him but just don't see anything to make me go "all in"
 
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I guess I may be in the minority but I think 3 scholarship QBs is fine for one more season, especially if everyone thinks we are going to be a 6-6 team. Let the staff fill out the rest of this class and give them next year to go get the guy they really want.
 
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VolPack22 said:
I guess I may be in the minority but I think 3 scholarship QBs is fine for one more season, especially if everyone thinks we are going to be a 6-6 team. Let the staff fill out the rest of this class and give them next year to go get the guy they really want.
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i think most agree with this line of thought. but it's not yet known what QD may do. he may transfer, and not want to sit out his Sr Yr as a back up.

so if he does, and you didn't sign a qb in this class, then things get pretty dicey.

i think they need to get 1 this cycle. plan on a RS, but he's there kind of a "break glass in an emergency"....if you will.:eek:lol:
 
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VolPack22 said:
I guess I may be in the minority but I think 3 scholarship QBs is fine for one more season, especially if everyone thinks we are going to be a 6-6 team. Let the staff fill out the rest of this class and give them next year to go get the guy they really want.
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We don’t know that we’ll have 3. Hinges on whether Dormady transfers. Kinda delicate.
 
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butchna said:
We don’t know that we’ll have 3. Hinges on whether Dormady transfers. Kinda delicate.
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Yeah, I mean a guy like Seth Washington just cannot be the 3rd QB with this offensive line. I mean adding a scholarship-worthy QB if Dormady leaves is practically a must.

I hope no one gets too excited over Graduate Transfers, either. I mean Malik Zaire was just stellar this year.
 
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cbatey1 said:
His last game stats:

13 of 48 passing
.271 Completion %
3 Tds
4 int

totals for last 5 games:
57/133
.430
7 tds
9 int

Assuming these are all his passes and not a backup at any point.

i cant get very excited. I do see he has some good things going for him but just don't see anything to make me go "all in"
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Those stats don't look great. But Tennessee is in a position of being late to the party in recruiting and QB recruiting starts years before the actual cycle the recruit graduates.

He has massive up side, a live arm, and he throws his receivers open. To go along with impressive pocket awareness for a 1st year starter.

These are very desirable traits that cannot be taught.



The decision making process can be fixed with coaching that causes interceptions.

Seems like a high reward low risk QB if Tennessee can pull him.
 
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EricFreakingBerry said:
Yeah, I mean a guy like Seth Washington just cannot be the 3rd QB with this offensive line. I mean adding a scholarship-worthy QB if Dormady leaves is practically a must.

I hope no one gets too excited over Graduate Transfers, either. I mean Malik Zaire was just stellar this year.
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He was no Luke Del Rio. Didn’t need to be since the real thing was still there. :)
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Thats still a ton. I really dont see the fascination with this kid. But I dont pretend to know how to evaluate QBs.
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Grounding rules a lot stricter in high school. No tackle box. How many would be legal throw aways in college? Also if he is throwing to a spot , how many are on the receivers not being there? With that many throws, where is the running game to balance things out? Lots of reasons , most could be corrected.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
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STUD
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The film, (highlights), shown are from 2014 and JT was a freshman then. Have to admit that they looked good but then again that's why they call them highlights. JT didn't win the starting position as a HS QB in his senior year. It's very safe to say that he is a real "sleeper.

1st thing UT needs to concentrate on is getting physical on the OL. This is essential. I do feel if we clear that hurdle that other things will fall into place. This staff appears to be determined in that area also. I much want to move on past CBJ but it appears he was asleep at the wheel as it pertains to the OL. When it came to "next man up" the dropoff was huge. Then it appears as though we were soft and that's due to a lack of conditioning,IMO. On top of that many feel as though CBJ was attempting to teach a finesse type of blocking technique. UT needs a complete on both sides of the line and this staff seems to be well aware of that.
 
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tbones0711 said:
The film, (highlights), shown are from 2014 and JT was a freshman then. Have to admit that they looked good but then again that's why they call them highlights. JT didn't win the starting position as a HS QB in his senior year. It's very safe to say that he is a real "sleeper.

1st thing UT needs to concentrate on is getting physical on the OL. This is essential. I do feel if we clear that hurdle that other things will fall into place. This staff appears to be determined in that area also. I much want to move on past CBJ but it appears he was asleep at the wheel as it pertains to the OL. When it came to "next man up" the dropoff was huge. Then it appears as though we were soft and that's due to a lack of conditioning,IMO. On top of that many feel as though CBJ was attempting to teach a finesse type of blocking technique. UT needs a complete on both sides of the line and this staff seems to be well aware of that.
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You’re wrong. He didn’t win the starting spot UNTIL his senior season. Those highlights (which YOU posted) spell out that they’re SENIOR SEASON. Why are you drinking this early? :blink:
 
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tbones0711 said:
The film, (highlights), shown are from 2014 and JT was a freshman then. Have to admit that they looked good but then again that's why they call them highlights. JT didn't win the starting position as a HS QB in his senior year. It's very safe to say that he is a real "sleeper.

1st thing UT needs to concentrate on is getting physical on the OL. This is essential. I do feel if we clear that hurdle that other things will fall into place. This staff appears to be determined in that area also. I much want to move on past CBJ but it appears he was asleep at the wheel as it pertains to the OL. When it came to "next man up" the dropoff was huge. Then it appears as though we were soft and that's due to a lack of conditioning,IMO. On top of that many feel as though CBJ was attempting to teach a finesse type of blocking technique. UT needs a complete on both sides of the line and this staff seems to be well aware of that.
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you sure about that? the title of the film, the headers, all say 2017 senior season. and this was the first year he started, iirc...not sure he even played as a fr?
 
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Would be just a touch on the odd side to play your freshman season, then spend two non-injured years backing up as a SO/JR, then play your SR year, the way his MaxPreps stat sheet reads.
 
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butchna said:
We don’t know that we’ll have 3. Hinges on whether Dormady transfers. Kinda delicate.
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I just don’t get why everyone is acting like it’s a probability that QD is leaving. New staff may prefer a senior and he had some success last year.
 
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tbones0711 said:
The film, (highlights), shown are from 2014 and JT was a freshman then. Have to admit that they looked good but then again that's why they call them highlights. JT didn't win the starting position as a HS QB in his senior year. It's very safe to say that he is a real "sleeper.

1st thing UT needs to concentrate on is getting physical on the OL. This is essential. I do feel if we clear that hurdle that other things will fall into place. This staff appears to be determined in that area also. I much want to move on past CBJ but it appears he was asleep at the wheel as it pertains to the OL. When it came to "next man up" the dropoff was huge. Then it appears as though we were soft and that's due to a lack of conditioning,IMO. On top of that many feel as though CBJ was attempting to teach a finesse type of blocking technique. UT needs a complete on both sides of the line and this staff seems to be well aware of that.
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hmmm says senior highlights, he sure doesn't look like a freshman in the highlights, didn't start until senior yr, posted date was this December..... so yeah you drunk
 
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Matt Barkley threw 23 TD's and 18 INT's his senior season.

That's why it doesn't matter. Would y'all take Matt Barkley?
 
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#199
This is our first opportunity to trust the new staff. I’m going to trust them here. If they want him then they must believe he can win. Otherwise why wouldn’t they have just kept Penix?
 
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Keep in mind, the slate is clean in a new season. Interceptions could be more than just bad decisions.
 
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