‘23 CA QB Nicholaus Iamaleava (Tennessee)

[FranklinVol16]

I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve. Tomorrow is gonna rock!

 

[InVOLuntary]

Doesn't sound like this guy Caspirino allowed that kind of BS in this particular kid's contact, nor would any remotely decent lawyer. As I said at more length above basically Mandel's article is telling kids to lawyer up and giving them Caspirino's business card.

It's all conjecture at this point. If Spyre gave the kid $350K with no strings attached, it's gross incompetence, imo. If that's the case, well have a bunch of highly ranked recruits lined up for the hand outs with little or no intention of signing with the Vols. I suspect, there are strings. I suspect he can get out of the agreement by giving back the $350K. I suspect another school's NIL team/organization would just pay it for him to sign another NIL. I guess I just have a high expectation that the folks at Spyre are smarter than that.

 

[butchna]

No tense from me. You just Teed that one up, too high.

Really? In a RECRUITING FORUM?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Really? In a RECRUITING FORUM?

Wth does that have to do with it?

 

[butchna]

Why are Duck fans so butthurt over all of this? This hasn’t even been a long recruitment.

Don’t say “long”. InVol’s in an 80’s locker room nostalgia bender.

 

[butchna]

Wth does that have to do with it?

It’s “teeing up”? A term that’s constantly used in recruiting discussions? You getting testosterone treatments?

 

[InVOLuntary]

It’s “teeing up”? A term that’s constantly used in recruiting discussions? You getting testosterone treatments?

Don't need them.

 

[butchna]

Okay.

If it's 350k good faith money then they have just kicked-off a bidding situation. If I'm his lawyer that's what I do.

Recruits of this caliber, it was ALWAYS a bidding situation. Spyre just went heavy artillery in a knife fight.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Do people actually think he commits today?

Why do you care?

 

[TheRain]

Recruits of this caliber, it was ALWAYS a bidding situation. Spyre just went heavy artillery in a knife fight.

I agree with that.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

The kid wants to go to Tennessee but the handlers are telling him to hold off...$350K richer.

Nope

 

[Orange_Crush]

Okay, well I told you yes, of course it binds him to Spyre 2 pages ago, but Spyre can't condition his payments upon him attending a particular school.

It's been proposed that Spyre may bind him to the area, which would effectively bind him to UT.

 

[butchna]

It's been proposed that Spyre may bind him to the area, which would effectively bind him to UT.

My only contention in this discussion based on information available to everyone is that to collect the $8 mil he needs to be at UT. The $350k is his…no strings.

 

[butchna]

Why do you care?

He’s got an appointment with a bridge…places to be.

 

[Orange_Crush]

My only contention in this discussion based on information available to everyone is that to collect the $8 mil he needs to be at UT. The $350k is his…no strings.

I haven't seen anything that says that the $350k is his, no strings. Not saying that I just didn't miss it.

 

[butchna]

I haven't seen anything that says that the $350k is his, no strings. Not saying that I just didn't miss it.

Going by the article.

 

[Orange_Crush]

From what I saw in the article, it just said "there is an element of trust" about where he will sign? Or did I miss something? That in no way states that the 350k is his free and clear.

 

[butchna]

From what I saw in the article, it just said "there is an element of trust" about where he will sign? Or did I miss something? That in no way states that the 350k is his free and clear.

What are they TRUSTING his family with?

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

It's been proposed that Spyre may bind him to the area, which would effectively bind him to UT.

Generally you can't play games like that if something is illegal, whether you admit you are doing something prohibited or not. Say you lived in a town with 3 restaurants, a McDonald's, a Burger King and a Wendy's, with the McDonald's on one side of the railroad tracks (the Northside) and the other two on the Southside. If it's illegal to require a person to eat at McDonald's, it's also going to be illegal to require someone to eat "only at restaurants on the Northside of the railroad tracks". Judges aren't stupid, and if any of these kids get experienced lawyers, they aren't going to be stupid either. The fact that this contract was drawn up to be clear he doesn't have to go to a particular school tells me that's a legit limitation on these deals. It's most likely that the incentive is that if he doesn't follow through and commit, he simply doesn't get the 7.65 million on the back end of the contract. He can get it somewhere else though. This lawyer in this article says he's not going to allow his clients to sign anything which would purport to have the collective retain NIL rights to a player after the relationship is over.

 

[Orange_Crush]

What are they TRUSTING his family with?

It's completely possible that the article was phrased that way to alleviate the perception that he was induced to sign at UT, especially considering the earlier context of the blurb that makes that blatant.

i.e. "You just signed your LOI rights to us. Here's #350k to get you started. The contract merely says that you must play NCAA football and we can't tell you where to sign. (But you signed a LOI contract with a regional sponsor collective, and those regional sponsorship caveats will have you so tied to Knoxville that it won't make sense you to try to play elsewhere.) In any event, again... Here's your first $350. We own your contract now."

And to the public: "We didn't induce him to sign with UT. There's a certain level of trust that he won't sign elsewhere."

But again... There is NOTHING in that that says, "We gave him 350k earnest money with no strings attached or any contract where we own his rights."

 

[volbeast33]

As long as he's being paid why would he GAF.

Bc he won’t get paid if he can’t meet the requirements which will be local to the Knoxville area.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Generally you can't play games like that if something is illegal, whether you admit you are doing something prohibited or not. Say you lived in a town with 3 restaurants, a McDonald's, a Burger King and a Wendy's, with the McDonald's on one side of the railroad tracks (the Northside) and the other two on the Southside. If it's illegal to require a person to eat at McDonald's, it's also going to be illegal to require someone to eat "only at restaurants on the Northside of the railroad tracks". Judges aren't stupid, and if any of these kids get experienced lawyers, they aren't going to be stupid either. The fact that this contract was drawn up to be clear he doesn't have to go to a particular school tells me that's a legit limitation on these deals. It's most likely that the incentive is that if he doesn't follow through and commit, he simply doesn't get the 7.65 million on the back end of the contract.

If you sign your sponsorship rights to a regional sponsorship collective, I'm not sure it's illegal to expect him to be in that region to meet the demands of those regional sponsors.

 

[KnoxtotheBoro20]

Nico reached out to Blackman receiver Brown prior to the OHS and BHS scrimmage this afternoon in regards to peer recruitment

 

[GetEmVols]

AP said he would commit before we made it to the Sweet 16 so I guess we aren't getting him.... blue font

Technically he would still be committing to us before we make the sweet 16 next year.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

If you sign your sponsorship rights to a regional sponsorship collective, I'm not sure it's illegal to expect him to be in that region to meet the demands of those regional sponsors.

We are assuming terms, but there is also an implied obligation of good faith and fair dealing in contracts. You can't say "this isn't tied to a school" and then in the setting of obligations make it impossible for the contract to be fulfilled practically at any other school. Courts see right through that kind of BS.