‘23 CA QB Nicholaus Iamaleava (Tennessee)

[butchna]

Dude was excited to think we weren’t getting him. So weird

“I’d rather be right and lose and oh yeah…**** America!”
- Comrade Jack prolly

 

[TheRain]

It was reported by I believe AP himself that the 350k is nonrefundable and that its a show of faith and has no obligations to any school. They said that if Nico wanted to work other schools for the 350k he could.

And I understand your sentiment but that 350k could have been "donated" by a "sponser" to get the ball rolling, and have nothing to do with any other money that has been donated from anyone else.

Okay.

If it's 350k good faith money then they have just kicked-off a bidding situation. If I'm his lawyer that's what I do.

 

[butchna]

Ok, I'm glad you're not running things. We'd be out of NIL money and not sign anybody. And Alabama and GA would be laughing their collective asses off.

We’re mutually glad that FANS aren’t in charge of this. We tend to let emotion intervene.

 

[butchna]

You tell me. You're the one celebrating Callahans balls.

Yikes…got tense. You gonna be ok?

 

[InVOLuntary]

It was reported by I believe AP himself that the 350k is nonrefundable and that its a show of faith and has no obligations to any school. They said that if Nico wanted to work other schools for the 350k he could.

And I understand your sentiment but that 350k could have been "donated" by a "sponser" to get the ball rolling, and have nothing to do with any other money that has been donated from anyone else.

I still don't believe it. I suspect there are outs but if he signed something there are strings. Otherwise there's no reason to sign anything. May as well just wired him the money.

On the other hand if it is the case, I suspect that's why we're seeing a delay in his commitment. Probably fielding other offers. Seeing if there are others willing to give him some free cash.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Then I won't belive Spyre is that stupid until I see it.

Okay, I just went and ponied up to read the Article. Butchna is right. Mandel says the lawyer for the athlete let Mandel review the contract in exchange for Mandel agreeing not to divulge who the athlete was, or who the collective was. Assuming it is Nico and Spyre though, here's the pull quote.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Yikes…got tense. You gonna be ok?

No tense from me. You just Teed that one up, too high.

 

[butchna]

Ok, I'm glad you're not running things. We'd be out of NIL money and not sign anybody. And Alabama and GA would be laughing their collective asses off.

If $350k breaks us? Then we’re not even in this game. That depletes Furman and they go on a payment plan. We’re better.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Okay, I just went and ponied up to read the Article. Butchna is right. Mandel says the lawyer for the athlete let Mandel review the contract in exchange for Mandel agreeing not to divulge who the athlete was, or who the collective was. Assuming it is Nico and Spyre though, here's the pull quote.
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That simply states it doesn't bind him to a school. It doesn't state it doesn't bind him to Spyre. That is my point.

 

[InVOLuntary]

If $350k breaks us? Then we’re not even in this game. That depletes Furman and they go on a payment plan. We’re better.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

That simply states it doesn't bind him to a school. It doesn't state it doesn't bind him to Spyre. That is my point.

Okay, well I told you yes, of course it binds him to Spyre 2 pages ago, but Spyre can't condition his payments upon him attending a particular school.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Okay, well I told you yes, of course it binds him to Spyre 2 pages ago, but Spyre can't condition his payments upon him attending a particular school.

No, but they can condition his payments on making appearances and other requirements associated with marketing, NIL obligations.

 

[SugarCC]

How is giving hundred of thousands of dollars ABOVE the table to TRY and get a recruit, any different than giving hundreds of thousands of dollars UNDER the table to TRY and get a recruit?

How up-in-arms were any of you with the old, illegal system? Do ya'll realize that many a recruit accepted cash under the table from one school, only to sign elsewhere? I guarantee you it happened more times than one can imagine. How much cash do y’all think Bryce Brown accepted from everywhere else?

 

[Joe Dirt]

Why are Duck fans so butthurt over all of this? This hasn’t even been a long recruitment.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

No, but they can condition his payments on making appearances and other requirements associated with marketing, NIL obligations.

As long as he's being paid why would he GAF.

 

[Devo182]

Okay.

If it's 350k good faith money then they have just kicked-off a bidding situation. If I'm his lawyer that's what I do.

How would that kick off a bidding war? What are they bidding on? He just signed away all his nil rights.

 

[Devo182]

As long as he's being paid why would he GAF.

"Show up at Hounddogs from Monday-Saturday of this week at 2 PM each day for this month's 150k. Thanks"

Don't see how he can meet the NiL obligations if he isn't here.

 

[TheRain]

How would that kick off a bidding war? What are they bidding on? He just signed away all his nil rights.

If he signed away his rights then that would be different.

 

[InVOLuntary]

As long as he's being paid why would he GAF.

But if his compensation is based on showing up on Thursday night at Calhoun's on the river for a radio show and he's in Eugene at a fraternity party he's not meeting his obligations to NIL. So he's not getting paid.

 

[Devo182]

If he signed away his rights then that would be different.

That's what he did.

 

[SugarCC]

That's what he did.

This...as I understand it.

 

[ALStateLineVol]

It was reported by I believe AP himself that the 350k is nonrefundable and that its a show of faith and has no obligations to any school. They said that if Nico wanted to work other schools for the 350k he could.

And I understand your sentiment but that 350k could have been "donated" by a "sponser" to get the ball rolling, and have nothing to do with any other money that has been donated from anyone else.

I asked this same question when word leaked about the NIL agreement. I was told that even though the $350K is guaranteed, he would have to sign a contract with Spyre sports in order to receive the money. Once he did that, he cannot sign another NIL if he choose to go to another school. So if he went to Oregon, he can't sign an NIL there because he has already signed one and Sprye is affiliated with TN. So he would not be able to ever receive another dime of money if he went anywhere other than Knoxville.
At least that is my understanding.

 

[Jimmy Football]

But if his compensation is based on showing up on Thursday night at Calhoun's on the river for a radio show and he's in Eugene at a fraternity party he's not meeting his obligations to NIL. So he's not getting paid.

How absurd would that be?

“Welcome back to the Nation with Chris Low and Austin Price, live here tonight from Calhoun’s on the River. It’s now time for our weekly segment with University of Oregon starting quarterback Nico Iamaleava. How’s it going, Nico?”

Edit: It would be like when George kept showing up to work at PlayNow when everyone wanted him gone.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

"Show up at Hounddogs from Monday-Saturday of this week at 2 PM each day for this month's 150k. Thanks"

Don't see how he can meet the NiL obligations if he isn't here.

Basically, what this Mandel article is, is a commercial for this lawyer Caspirino. He's saying come to me kids and I'll negotiate out of your contract all this BS these collectives try to pull over on you like I did for this unnamed client (whom he purports to have negotiated the sort of BS you are referring to out of the contract for). He probably represented this kid for free or for a discount for the express purpose of going to Mandel with this and trying to make himself the go to guy for players for NIL deals. One of the big takeaways from this article is be sure you get a lawyer to deal with these shady NIL collectives, kids. Sound advice certainly, but Caspirino is wanting to be that lawyer the kids run to.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

But if his compensation is based on showing up on Thursday night at Calhoun's on the river for a radio show and he's in Eugene at a fraternity party he's not meeting his obligations to NIL. So he's not getting paid.

Doesn't sound like this guy Caspirino allowed that kind of BS in this particular kid's contact, nor would any remotely decent lawyer. As I said at more length above basically Mandel's article is telling kids to lawyer up and giving them Caspirino's business card.