‘23 CA QB Nicholaus Iamaleava (Tennessee)

[KPT_VFL]

IM READY

 

[Glitch]

Someone get the Incredible Duck on the line

Going straight to voicemail.

 

[mrmax86]

Ducks don't pull trucks.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Yeah
yeah but they can make all opportunities revolve around Knoxville if he wants to make the 2 million per year following. They can make every appearance be in the TN area and if he goes somewhere else then logistically he would be unable to fulfill the nil requirements to get the rest of the money. There is some way to work the paperwork that ties them to the school without physically saying it.

I swear, y'all are like Positive K, again from the Mandel article and the lawyer (Caspino) who negotiated the deal that we all hope and believe is Nico-Spyre:

 

[InVOLuntary]

L

But we know the following, which is in the article:

"the contract explicitly states, “nothing in this Agreement constitutes any form of inducement for (the athlete) to enroll at any school and/or join any athletic team.” There is no mention of any specific university, only that he be “enrolled at an NCAA member institution and a member of the football team at such institution,” ostensibly to avoid violating the NCAA’s pay-for-play rule."

So we know they can't turn around and make enrolling or staying a particular school a condition of payment under the contract or an event triggering some sort of penalty/punitive measure.

Lol

 

[EternalVFL]

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

L

Lol

Mr. Conjecture, have a nice day.

 

[mrmax86]

Edit: Swanson'd

 

[Ron Swanson]

This is exciting

 

[jpope9]

 

[Orange_Crush]

But we know the following, which is in the article:

"the contract explicitly states, “nothing in this Agreement constitutes any form of inducement for (the athlete) to enroll at any school and/or join any athletic team.” There is no mention of any specific university, only that he be “enrolled at an NCAA member institution and a member of the football team at such institution,” ostensibly to avoid violating the NCAA’s pay-for-play rule."

So we know they can't turn around and make enrolling or staying a particular school a condition of payment under the contract or an event triggering some sort of penalty/punitive measure.

Again, he's signing with a regional NIL. There are bound to be ties to that region. And if he's sponsored for Knoxville appearances, has to be enrolled in a NCAA university, and playing on their team... So, being available in Knoxville and playing football...

To allay your previous rebuttals:

The article merely says that "enrolling at any certain school" ISN'T mentioned--seemingly to get around NCAA issues. It doesn't say that the contract expressly said that it isn't an issue. So I'm not sure I understand your point about judges seeing through these things per intent. The contract probably doesn't say anything about the intent NOT being this or that. Just that the intent IS this and that. If university enrollment ISN'T mentioned, but the other stipulations ARE, WTH does the court care?

Now, the NCAA may take issue. But UT has plausible deniability to point at the contract and show what it doesn't mention. NCAA could try to impose penalties. Ut could lawyer up. The courts could decide then.

But as far as the courts are concerned, I'm not sure they would take issue with a regional marketing firm writing regional stipulations into a contract, and a lawyered-up client signing on.

 

[Glitch]

This is exciting

 

[Ericvol2096]

I’m assuming we are looking at a 6PM EST type announcement after he’s done with school…let’s take guesses and closest to time wins nothing at all but looking smart.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I swear, y'all are like Positive K, again from the Mandel article and the lawyer (Caspino) who negotiated the deal that we all hope and believe is Nico-Spyre:
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You don't think the "hook" he's talking about is described in the previous paragraph? You don't think he's talking about not letting a client sign a NIL that grants NIL-rights even after the contract is broken?

He may be talking about signing a contract that ties a player to the region/university by making him powerless to leave and broker a better deal (ETA, that would tie him to a different "region" for lots more $$$) at a later time? You think he doesn't see school-representing firms ponying up to bring recruits in, and he's saying, "I'd never allow any of my clients to participate in that system. Instead, I'll find them national contracts with Arbies and Hooters, no matter where they attend college."?

 

[Ericvol2096]

this kid is the reason we are signing Nico, cant convince me otherwise.

 

[bignewt]

What would be really funny to me is you Morans wasting hours of your lives debating an NIL deal that isn't even Nico's.

 

[VFL1993]

I’m assuming we are looking at a 6PM EST type announcement after he’s done with school…let’s take guesses and closest to time wins nothing at all but looking smart.

My only hesitation is that he seems like the type that would advertise an upcoming announcement on his socials seeing that that’s exactly what he did with his top 5.

 

[Orange_Crush]

What would be really funny to me is you Morans wasting hours of your lives debating an NIL deal that isn't even Nico's.

That's occurred to me as well.

 

[volbeast33]

What would be really funny to me is you Morans wasting hours of your lives debating an NIL deal that isn't even Nico's.

It’s not like we have anything better to do.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Mr. Conjecture, have a nice day.

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You keep going back to the part where it ties the student to a school. That's never been my contention. He's tied to Spyre. Nothing you've posted disputes that. The lawyer says and I paraphrase, I would never let a client sign a contract he couldn't get out of. How did you ever make it as a lawyer? Your takes are unbelievably naive.

 

[bignewt]

It’s not like we have anything better to do.

that's sad.

 

[rjd970]

Again, he's signing with a regional NIL. There are bound to be ties to that region. And if he's sponsored for Knoxville appearances, has to be enrolled in a NCAA university, and playing on their team... So, being available in Knoxville and playing football...

To allay your previous rebuttals:

The article merely says that "enrolling at any certain school" ISN'T mentioned--seemingly to get around NCAA issues. It doesn't say that the contract expressly said that it isn't an issue. So I'm not sure I understand your point about judges seeing through these things per intent. The contract probably doesn't say anything about the intent NOT being this or that. Just that the intent IS this and that. If university enrollment ISN'T mentioned, but the other stipulations ARE, WTH does the court care?

Now, the NCAA may take issue. But UT has plausible deniability to point at the contract and show what it doesn't mention. NCAA could try to impose penalties. Ut could lawyer up. The courts could decide then.

But as far as the courts are concerned, I'm not sure they would take issue with a regional marketing firm writing regional stipulations into a contract, and a lawyered-up client signing on.

Lawyers always find a way.

I suspect this is the way other schools are doing it. Like, sure you are free to go to Oregon after your freshman year, but you are expected to be in Knoxville once a week for appearances. If you aren’t you are in breach of contract and we don’t pay. Something to that effect.

It isn’t pay for play, but they are tied contractually to obligations in a certain region.

 

[Incredible_duck]

Dude……stop it.

stop what?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Yeah
yeah but they can make all opportunities revolve around Knoxville if he wants to make the 2 million per year following. They can make every appearance be in the TN area and if he goes somewhere else then logistically he would be unable to fulfill the nil requirements to get the rest of the money. There is some way to work the paperwork that ties them to the school without physically saying it.

I wouldn't waste my time with this one. Logic evades him.

 

[Jackcrevol]

This is exciting

twss