CA Store Owner Killed Over Displaying Pride Flag

[gcbvol]

I don’t completely disagree with you, but you’re openly ignoring the stated desire of drag Queen story hour. They openly state the goal is to have this as a part of “early childhood education”.

That’s where the real issue occurs. Take your kids where you wish. Just don’t force it on mine. Yet, forcing this on all kids is their goal

And I get your point. I guess it comes down to what is meant by education. I don't have children, but I know folks who have taken their children to drag queen story time at libraries. They said the queens were not inappropriate in any way and read from books about acceptance of others and inclusiveness. Things like understanding and embracing differences. There was no type of discussing or pushing trans topics. If that was going on with young children I'd take issue, too.

I think a big problem is a lot of folks think drag quees are trans. This is certainly not the case with the vast majority. Some are trans IRL, but most are gay men who dress and act like men when not performing. Drag is performance art.

 

[SamRebel35]

And I get your point. I guess it comes down to what is meant by education. I don't have children, but I know folks who have taken their children to drag queen story time at libraries. They said the queens were not inappropriate in any way and read from books about acceptance of others and inclusiveness. Things like understanding and embracing differences. There was no type of discussing or pushing trans topics. If that was going on with young children I'd take issue, too.

I think a big problem is a lot of folks think drag quees are trans. This is certainly not the case with the vast majority. Some are trans IRL, but most are gay men who dress and act like men when not performing. Drag is performance art.

"They're just playing dress up!" Is my favorite play from the playbook. These guys dress with the intent to shock and make people recoil. Then they act like anyone who is shocked or recoils is a hateful bigot. The absolute most disingenuous schtick in this cultural moment.

 

[C-south]

If you don't want your children at drag queen story time, don't take them. Problem solved and everyone is happy.

And don’t have them in public venues, especially taxpayer funded ones.

 

[allvol123]

"They're just playing dress up!" Is my favorite play from the playbook. These guys dress with the intent to shock and make people recoil. Then they act like anyone who is shocked or recoils is a hateful bigot. The absolute most disingenuous schtick in this cultural moment.

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They are just genuinely good people spreading love to children. Honest.

 

[gcbvol]

They are just genuinely good people spreading love to children. Honest.

They are.

 

[MercyPercy]

"They're just playing dress up!" Is my favorite play from the playbook. These guys dress with the intent to shock and make people recoil. Then they act like anyone who is shocked or recoils is a hateful bigot. The absolute most disingenuous schtick in this cultural moment.

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Is this image causing you shock and making you recoil..?

 

[creekdipper]

Faith alone will never save Christians.

Faith alone is the only thing that will save Christians.

Good works are the fruit of salvation, not the cause..."lest any man should boast."

All we contribute to our salvation are our sins which Christ took upon Himself. It is His righteousness that us credited to our account that has earned our salvation. Our very best works on our own are as refuse and dung compared to God's holiness.

Well, at least that's what the Bible says.

 

[allvol123]

They are.

Of course they are.

Do I want to teach my children to love others that are not like us ?

Yes.

How could I ever do this if not for adult men that are really confused about their identity/sexuality/gender being willing to dress up in costumes as over the top insulting versions of women.

If you’re going to choose to be friends with imbeciles, at least try to help them out gCB.

 

[creekdipper]

If all the Christians in America entirely focused their religious efforts on being Christlike, we'd all be in a much better place and I'm not sure I would have left religion. It's tough to be Christlike. I don't think it's so hard to make it your focus, tho.

Which Christ? The One revealed in God's Word, or any of the versions invented to reflect peoples' own beliefs?

 

[creekdipper]

Two doctors independently examine the same patient. They both reach the same diagnosis: Tbe patient's medical problems are caused by behavior that, if not ceased, will ultimately prove to have fatal consequences.

Doctor A tells the patient that he/she can continue with their preferred lifestyle and that all will be well.

DoctorB tells the patient that he/she must cease the behavior or die an ugly, premature death.

Which doctor loves the patient?

 

[MercyPercy]

Two doctors independently examine the same patient. They both reach the same diagnosis: Tbe patient's medical problems are caused by behavior that, if not ceased, will ultimately prove to have fatal consequences.

Doctor A tells the patient that he/she can continue with their preferred lifestyle and that all will be well.

DoctorB tells the patient that he/she must cease the behavior or die an ugly, premature death.

Which doctor loves the patient?

Doctor C says this is a ridiculous analogy to compare being gay/trans with something that will cause an "ugly, premature death"

 

[allvol123]

Two doctors independently examine the same patient. They both reach the same diagnosis: Tbe patient's medical problems are caused by behavior that, if not ceased, will ultimately prove to have fatal consequences.

Doctor A tells the patient that he/she can continue with their preferred lifestyle and that all will be well.

DoctorB tells the patient that he/she must cease the behavior or die an ugly, premature death.

Which doctor loves the patient?

You’re going to confuse them.

Try the parent that lets their child eat a junk food diet at 5 years old, ya know, cause they “love” them.

Versus a parent that actually knows what it is to love their child.

 

[whodeycin85]

LOL. Scroll down to their post on June 12. Will this incontrovertible evidence change your mind about anything, tho? You think my personal friend fell victim to the one incident of demostrative hate? I dare you to scroll through all the comments. Don't forget to unfilter it for "all comments."

Chrome Comb Barbershop

I think that kinda behavior is what you get when people can be annoymous on social media... You have an entire generation who social skills are only online.... Most people wouldn't speak like this face to face for fear of a fight...

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Faith alone is the only thing that will save Christians.

Good works are the fruit of salvation, not the cause..."lest any man should boast."

All we contribute to our salvation are our sins which Christ took upon Himself. It is His righteousness that us credited to our account that has earned our salvation. Our very best works on our own are as refuse and dung compared to God's holiness.

Well, at least that's what the Bible says.

Faith alone is incomplete without merit. Good works must accompany it. See the Book of James chapter 2.

 

[SamRebel35]

Is this image causing you shock and making you recoil..?

Yeah I'm the weird one for recoiling at the sight of a repulsive ghoul trying to indoctrinate kids. I'm just outta touch. This is totally normal and is part of a well balanced childhood upbringing.

 

[whodeycin85]

And I get your point. I guess it comes down to what is meant by education. I don't have children, but I know folks who have taken their children to drag queen story time at libraries. They said the queens were not inappropriate in any way and read from books about acceptance of others and inclusiveness. Things like understanding and embracing differences. There was no type of discussing or pushing trans topics. If that was going on with young children I'd take issue, too.

I think a big problem is a lot of folks think drag quees are trans. This is certainly not the case with the vast majority. Some are trans IRL, but most are gay men who dress and act like men when not performing. Drag is performance art.

I agree the vast majority of drag are not trans... Drag is an art typically for humor or for fetishes I'm my experience...I think most people don't like drag queens cuz the focus is on school age kids.... Why don't the read to kids or adults in hospitals, or old folks homes, or adult education centers fire the mentally impaired??? The simple answer most arrive to is the those minds can't be or are less likely to molded... Hence why the grooming label comes out.

 

[MercyPercy]

Yeah I'm the weird one for recoiling at the sight of a repulsive ghoul trying to indoctrinate kids. I'm just outta touch. This is totally normal and is part of a well balanced childhood upbringing.

A "yes" would have sufficed.

 

[allvol123]

I agree the vast majority of drag are not trans... Drag is an art typically for humor or for fetishes I'm my experience...I think most people don't like drag queens cuz the focus is on school age kids.... Why don't the read to kids or adults in hospitals, or old folks homes, or adult education centers fire the mentally impaired??? The simple answer most arrive to is the those minds can't be or are less likely to molded... Hence why the grooming label comes out.

Dude stop it. Everyone knows being drag correlates with an uncontrollable desire to end illiteracy.

 

[SamRebel35]

I agree the vast majority of drag are not trans... Drag is an art typically for humor or for fetishes I'm my experience...I think most people don't like drag queens cuz the focus is on school age kids.... Why don't the read to kids or adults in hospitals, or old folks homes, or adult education centers fire the mentally impaired??? The simple answer most arrive to is the those minds can't be or are less likely to molded... Hence why the grooming label comes out.

Or, if the goal is to preach tolerance and acceptance of gay people, why not just have normal and non shocking gay people read to them? It would show them that gay people are just normal people; that they're more than just horrifying clown monsters.

 

[creekdipper]

Doctor C says this is a ridiculous analogy to compare being gay/trans with something that will cause an "ugly, premature death"

Doctor C obviously isn't a theologian.

 

[creekdipper]

Faith alone is incomplete without merit. Good works must accompany it. See the Book of James chapter 2.

The good works are evidence of true faith. Without faith and a regenerated heart...remember, gifts from God, not earned attributes...there are no good works.

James was emphasizing the doctrine that faith will produce good works. The "dead faith" he talks about is a sham faith...either a pretense or self-delusion.

Consider the description of Judgment Day in which many will call upon the name of the Lird and describe their "good works"...and Jesus will reject them and cast them out, saying that He never knew them.

Yes, renewed hearts and minds that have been resurrected from death will produce good works out of gratitude and a sincere desire to please and glorify God. But the only claim to Heaven is the work Christ did for us that we could not do for ourselves. That is the shield and claim that will satisfy God's justice so that when He views us, He sees Christ's perfect righteousness. To try to get into Heaven based upon our own works would be to claim that we have been perfect and sinless for every moment of our lives beginning at conception. No mortal has ever or will ever achieve that (for all have sinned and fallen short of God's glory).

Besides, relying upon our own works in any way for justification before God id to steal Christ's glory and try to take partial credit ourselves.

Now, we do play a part in sanctification (although we still give God the glory). But the initial saving faith is grace shown to an undeserving sinner who has only earned condemnation.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

I'll bet his taste for Bud Light grinded to a halt about the same time they hired that trans boy/girl.

Bud light has always sucked Septic. I have no said taste for alcohol water.

 

[Septic]

Bud light has always sucked Septic. I have no said taste for alcohol water.

I don't drink it either but somebody did, it was #1.

 

[KB5252]

If you don't want your children at drag queen story time, don't take them. Problem solved and everyone is happy.

If it were as simple as that I'm not sure anyone would have a problem. Your kid your choice.

Obviously as a gay man or women taking your kid to children friendly drag shows or pride events would be something you do. For no other reason than contextualizing your life experiences and preparing them for what their norm is/will be in their upbringing.

It's no different really than a rancher exposing their children to animal husbandry as they grow up and eventually butchering when they are ready. I know it sounds different but in reality its the same.

Every parent is going to expose children to what they determine is in their best interests. The government should not be involved in their upbringing save education. School should be a place where you exercise your mind and develop critical thinking.

 

[gcbvol]

If it were as simple as that I'm not sure anyone would have a problem. Your kid your choice.

Obviously as a gay man or women taking your kid to children friendly drag shows or pride events would be something you do. For no other reason than contextualizing your life experiences and preparing them for what their norm is/will be in their upbringing.

It's no different really than a rancher exposing their children to animal husbandry as they grow up and eventually butchering when they are ready. I know it sounds different but in reality its the same.

Every parent is going to expose children to what they determine is in their best interests. The government should not be involved in their upbringing save education. School should be a place where you exercise your mind and develop critical thinking.

Good points. I agree drag queens should not be any type of school curriculum. It should definitely be parental choice.