California Lunacy Thread

[hog88]

Don't forget all these "pro environment" "pro regulation" democrats trying to pull permits to rebuild to current codes. They are going to shat themselves.

It can be a shock. We're getting ready to list our house, realtor asked if the drywall on the ceiling of the garage is 1/2" or not. Reason is the VA won't finance a home with less than 1/2" drywall on the ceiling of the garage, so of course I said sure, it's 1/2". I purchased the house with a VA loan and there was NO drywall on the ceiling of the garage.

 

[Leeleesteeth]

What can elected leaders do about 100 mph winds?

Controlled Burns.
Clean the Underbrush
Build Reservoirs to catch snow melt and runoff.
Stand up to Environmental terrorists.
Get their heads out of their a$$.

 

[Vol423]

A change in building codes to make houses/building more fire resistant which of course will make them more expensive to construct which will force a lot of people to short sell.

They will also face much high building standards regarding earthquakes than were in existence when many of these homes were originally built.

 

[LouderVol]

Was it partisan dunking, tho? That's what's happening here. Page 3 is pretty good considering the LA fires discussion here started like this:





TFG posted an update that the fires got worse over-night, and several posters "liked" it. WTH is that?

I won't speak for everyone, but just because I "like" a post doesn't mean I actually like what is posted. it can mean anything from "thanks for the information", or for dropping some reference I like/found funny. I will like any well placed Chapelle Show reference I see. no matter the context or who posted it. Now I am sure some liked the actual content and are pretty disgusting for doing so, but I wouldn't flat out assume everyone did.

I have no interest, or time, to go dig up who was in charge of Gatlinburg and SMF fire efforts from back then to know if it was partisan bias. People did bring up that the "idiots" waited so long because they didn't want to affect tourism.

 

[Leeleesteeth]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you have about as much idea on which burns they did or didn't do as I do: None.

This "they didn't clear the brush" thing cropping up is a bit premature, imo. In fact, any jawing about anything related to the fire by people out East blaming the "libs" for their fire is a bit ridiculous. We don't know. We'll find out. Best not to imagine.

My son lives out there. I don't have to imagine.

 

[hog88]

They will also face much high building standards regarding earthquakes than were in existence when many of these homes were originally built.

Much higher cost of everything. A lot of people won't be able to afford the rebuild.

 

[LouderVol]

A change in building codes to make houses/building more fire resistant which of course will make them more expensive to construct which will force a lot of people to short sell.

its probably not building code that needs to be updated. but zoning, property line set backs, overall density, other required firebreaks.

with fires this bad it doesn't matter what you build the house out of, its likely going to burn. short of concrete bunkers with no openings I don't know how the buildings impact this.

 

[hog88]

its probably not building code that needs to be updated. but zoning, property line set backs, overall density, other required firebreaks.

with fires this bad it doesn't matter what you build the house out of, its likely going to burn. short of concrete bunkers with no openings I don't know how the buildings impact this.

I looked at building our new house using ICFs then immediately looked away.

 

[Vol423]

Much higher cost of everything. A lot of people won't be able to afford the rebuild.

I'm already bracing for the resulting mass exodus of more liberals from California to Arizona.

 

[Orangeburst]

How much has been spent on the bullet train?

 

[volfanhill]

Much higher cost of everything. A lot of people won't be able to afford the rebuild.

Sadly, even though in a very affluent area, many will be toast due to their lack of having insurance. You still owe the bank

 

[Orangeburst]

 

[Vol423]

its probably not building code that needs to be updated. but zoning, property line set backs, overall density, other required firebreaks.

with fires this bad it doesn't matter what you build the house out of, its likely going to burn. short of concrete bunkers with no openings I don't know how the buildings impact this.

They could try this:

 

[hog88]

Sadly, even though in a very affluent area, many will be toast due to their lack of having insurance. You still owe the bank

Lack of insurance or underinsured.

 

[Septic]

what has this lady failed with the direct managing of this fire? Is she giving bad orders, or clamming up like their mayor did? did she use the assets she has in a bad way?

my understanding is the issues in dealing with fires extends well beyond her tenure and control. their fire chief isn't responsible for their budget, or removing the reservoirs.

Erry'body piling on the LA mayor. Is she responsible for the budget of the LA County fire department or just the City of LA? How come the mayor's of Malibu, Pacific Palisades etc arent getting dragged?

 

[EasternVol]

Controlled Burns.
Clean the Underbrush
Build Reservoirs to catch snow melt and runoff.
Stand up to Environmental terrorists.
Get their heads out of their a$$.

If you clean the underbrush in LA what happens when it pours the rain?

 

[Septic]

Sadly, even though in a very affluent area, many will be toast due to their lack of having insurance. You still owe the bank

You can't get or have a mortgage without insurance. Those that let their policys lapse will get it force placed for the loan amount by the mortgage company/lender.

This only applies for certain to FDIC backed lenders that have lending requirements.

 

[n_huffhines]

I won't speak for everyone, but just because I "like" a post doesn't mean I actually like what is posted. it can mean anything from "thanks for the information", or for dropping some reference I like/found funny. I will like any well placed Chapelle Show reference I see. no matter the context or who posted it. Now I am sure some liked the actual content and are pretty disgusting for doing so, but I wouldn't flat out assume everyone did.

I have no interest, or time, to go dig up who was in charge of Gatlinburg and SMF fire efforts from back then to know if it was partisan bias. People did bring up that the "idiots" waited so long because they didn't want to affect tourism.

But you see the point, right? Because the fact that some people were critical of mismanagement doesn't defeat the point at all.

Imagine a thread on a UCLA message board just dunking on dumb hicks for not doing better with that tragedy?

 

[EasternVol]

Yes, rake the forest floors, what a brilliant and practical solution.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

LA Mayor Karen Bass in 2021 Bashed Ted Cruz for Being out of Texas During Hurricane​

Los Angeles City Mayor Karen Bass, now under fire for being in Ghana as wildfires spread across her city, once bashed Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) for being out of state when Hurricane Beryl hit Texas in 2021.

Bass on February 19, 2021, posted: “Ted Cruz fleeing Texas in the middle of a deadly crisis is part of a larger pattern of the GOP abandoning folks in crisis. We need to build a movement to kick them all out.”

Karen Bass in 2021 Bashed Cruz for Being out of Texas During Hurricane

Los Angeles City Mayor Karen Bass, now under fire for being in Ghana as wildfires spread across her city, once bashed Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) for being out of state when Hurricane Beryl hit Texas in 2021.

www.breitbart.com

 

[Orangeburst]

Yes, rake the forest floors, what a brilliant and practical solution.

Yes it is, but if you want to mock semantics go right ahead.

 

[Firebirdparts]

It can be a shock. We're getting ready to list our house, realtor asked if the drywall on the ceiling of the garage is 1/2" or not. Reason is the VA won't finance a home with less than 1/2" drywall on the ceiling of the garage, so of course I said sure, it's 1/2". I purchased the house with a VA loan and there was NO drywall on the ceiling of the garage.

Supposed to be 5/8".

 

[Orangeburst]

Supposed to be 5/8".

 

[NCFisher]

Some excerpts:
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As wildfires continue to burn out of control across Los Angeles, questions have turned to why and how California authorities allowed the perfect conditions — extremely dry, uncleared forests, hillsides and brush — to proliferate during an already dangerous fire season made worse by a Santa Ana wind event that hits the area with relative frequency.

Also known as controlled burns, those are fires intentionally set by forest managers to reduce hazardous fuels like brush, dead trees and other highly flammable materials. The main benefit of prescribed fires is to "reduce the risk of unwanted wildfires in the future," according to the Forest Service, an agency of the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

But in order for these prescribed fires to occur, they must go through the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) review process, which can last anywhere from 3.6 years to 7.2 years between the time of initiation to when the burning can actually begin, according to a 2022 policy brief from the Property and Environment Research Center (PERC).

The Forest Service has been warning of a "forest health crisis of tremendous proportions" for more than two decades. In its own 2022 report, the agency said that "73 million acres of national forests are at risk from severe wildland fires that threaten human safety and ecosystem integrity."

Forest Service officials have estimated that planning and assessment consume a full 40 percent of the agency's total direct work at the national forest level and that those efforts cost the Forest Service more than $250 million every year.

"Although some planning is obviously necessary, Forest Service officials have estimated that improving administrative procedures could shift up to $100 million a year from unnecessary planning to actual project work to restore ecosystems and deliver services on the ground," the agency said in its report.

How red tape strangled California forest management before LA fires

"Mother nature doesn't wait for paperwork."

www.newsweek.com

 

[Orangeburst]

Fisher with the facts.