California Lunacy Thread

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Septic said:
Erry'body piling on the LA mayor. Is she responsible for the budget of the LA County fire department or just the City of LA? How come the mayor's of Malibu, Pacific Palisades etc arent getting dragged?
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at some point people don't care enough to find the nth level person to blame and just stick with the most public figure.

LA County has a board of supervisors that I suspect is in charge of the county budget.
 
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n_huffhines said:
But you see the point, right? Because the fact that some people were critical of mismanagement doesn't defeat the point at all.
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I don't know what you want me to say. I admitted there was wrong doing in the Gatlinburg fires. I disagreed on the who/what but not the right or wrong of it.

I am sure if anyone knew of a thread on BruinNation making fun of us they would probably agree, and then throw in a snide remark about the utopia of LA and probably trash and drugs. not sure what your point is in bringing that up though.
 
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EasternVol said:
If you clean the underbrush in LA what happens when it pours the rain?
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Same as any other state that has issues with erosion control. Find the balance between overgrowth and what's needed to control erosion. My Dad's company years ago manufactured products and advised highway departments on controlling erosion. What you don't do is fail to prepare, whine and point fingers and blame fantasy theories. Nobody is saying it's a simple fix.
 
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LouderVol said:
I don't know what you want me to say. I admitted there was wrong doing in the Gatlinburg fires. I disagreed on the who/what but not the right or wrong of it.

I am sure if anyone knew of a thread on BruinNation making fun of us they would probably agree, and then throw in a snide remark about the utopia of LA and probably trash and drugs. not sure what your point is in bringing that up though.
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Nobody needed you to. I don't want you to say anything. ;) I want you to stop distracting from the point. You initially distracted by asking for examples of mismanagement, which you then quibbled over and accepted some, but that was never the point. The point has never been to criticize Tennesseeans or that no Tennesseeans were ever self-critical. The point was to mock people for bad behavior in this thread by pointing out how douchey others would look doing it to us for partisan/cultural reasons.
 
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jwells said:
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you have about as much idea on which burns they did or didn't do as I do: None.

This "they didn't clear the brush" thing cropping up is a bit premature, imo. In fact, any jawing about anything related to the fire by people out East blaming the "libs" for their fire is a bit ridiculous. We don't know. We'll find out. Best not to imagine.
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Is this the first time Forest mismanagement has come up with regards to forest fires in California?
 
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NCFisher said:
Some excerpts:
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As wildfires continue to burn out of control across Los Angeles, questions have turned to why and how California authorities allowed the perfect conditions — extremely dry, uncleared forests, hillsides and brush — to proliferate during an already dangerous fire season made worse by a Santa Ana wind event that hits the area with relative frequency.

Also known as controlled burns, those are fires intentionally set by forest managers to reduce hazardous fuels like brush, dead trees and other highly flammable materials. The main benefit of prescribed fires is to "reduce the risk of unwanted wildfires in the future," according to the Forest Service, an agency of the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

But in order for these prescribed fires to occur, they must go through the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) review process, which can last anywhere from 3.6 years to 7.2 years between the time of initiation to when the burning can actually begin, according to a 2022 policy brief from the Property and Environment Research Center (PERC).

The Forest Service has been warning of a "forest health crisis of tremendous proportions" for more than two decades. In its own 2022 report, the agency said that "73 million acres of national forests are at risk from severe wildland fires that threaten human safety and ecosystem integrity."

Forest Service officials have estimated that planning and assessment consume a full 40 percent of the agency's total direct work at the national forest level and that those efforts cost the Forest Service more than $250 million every year.

"Although some planning is obviously necessary, Forest Service officials have estimated that improving administrative procedures could shift up to $100 million a year from unnecessary planning to actual project work to restore ecosystems and deliver services on the ground," the agency said in its report.
www.newsweek.com

How red tape strangled California forest management before LA fires

"Mother nature doesn't wait for paperwork."
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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Excellent article.

Those who fall in the camp of "no amount of preparedness would have been enough for this" should read it thoroughly.

While the Santa Anna Winds were particularly fierce over the last few days, the scale of these fires grew and became out of control due to lack of forest management and mismanagement of city/county resources.

It is an absolute tragedy, and my heart breaks for those who have lost loved ones and all of their belongings.

I truly hope Angelenos vote and act accordingly to restore competency to their public offices.
 
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LouderVol said:
I dug up the Gatlinburg Being Evacuated thread in the Pub. It was page 3 less than 24hrs after the thread got started before people were blaming the City for their failings.

so I think the assumption of different, politically based, reactions is a bit overplayed here. LSU_SIU was also in that thread critiquing the management of that original fire and letting it burn. I didn't dig long enough to see who else popped up there.
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The difference is I don't think anyone could have dreamed about the Gatlinburg fire.

Compared to Southern California where these fires happen every year.
 
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LouderVol said:
got to think the smoke impacts Starlink connections as well, otherwise I would say use that.
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While Starlink can still function to some degree through smoke, heavy smoke significantly impacts its performance, potentially causing reduced speeds and connection disruptions as the smoke obstructs the satellite signal required for the service to work properly; therefore, it's best to keep your Starlink dish away from smoke whenever possible.

Key points about Starlink and smoke:
Signal interference: Smoke particles in the air can block the radio waves from Starlink satellites, weakening the signal reaching the dish.
Severity depends on smoke density: The more dense the smoke, the greater the impact on Starlink performance.
Potential for service disruption: In extreme smoke conditions, Starlink may experience frequent connection drops or complete outages.
 
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