Calipari on Tennessee

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bleedingTNorange said:
And Terrence Jones was 4 years ago? As I've said...yes I think he used to...however I no longer think he needs to.

Meaning...I don't think he cheated to get the Harrison's, young or Willis....the guys in his 2013 class.
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He may not need to cheat as much but it is hard for guys to change what they have been doing for twenty yrs plus.

He may not have cheated to get them but it's hard to have once in a lifetime classes every single season and he keeps stealing all these guys from big name schools back yards....I just don't believe it.
 
#53
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calban said:
Might go over better if you add a JMO to that statement.
Insider evidence would be better.
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Ok I'm in the compliance dept at Kentucky and I know they cheat lol jk.......I think everyone knows it is my opinion without putting jmo.....
 
#54
#54
Crazy Ivan said:
UK fans had no reason to follow Memphis. I remember that he made Memphis relevant but never watched one of their games until the 08 tourny. I had no reason to.

That still doesn't explain why ya serious college BB fan would not know anything about Cal, easily one of the most recognizable coaches in college BB the last 15 or so years. The stripping of the FF from UMass; the famous feuds between Cal and both Calhoun at UConn and Chaney at Temple.

His scandals? Couldn't of cared less cause they didn't effect UK.

No effect on UK? Are you serious. UK was in the process of hiring a guy who had his last 2 teams stripped of their FF appearances and you say those scandals had no effect on UK?!? Are you kidding me? That's funny considering the UK AD publicly said that while there was no proof Cal knew anything about either scandal, the UK compliance office would keep close contact with Cal (watchdog?). So how could someone who claims to be a serious UK fan at that time be unaware of any of that?
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15 yrs ago? Im 22yrs old. My earliest memory of the guy was when he was making Memphis relevant. I didn't exactly wiki his name either. I remember the D rose scandal just not the specifics. I gave him the benefit of the doubt because there's no proof he was guilty. Not saying he wasn't but can't say for certain he was.
 
#55
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UK101 said:
15 yrs ago? Im 22yrs old. My earliest memory of the guy was when he was making Memphis relevant. I didn't exactly wiki his name either. I remember the D rose scandal just not the specifics. I gave him the benefit of the doubt because there's no proof he was guilty. Not saying he wasn't but can't say for certain he was.
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He didn't say 15yrs ago, he said the last 15 years or so. Meaning from 15 years till present time. There isn't proof of Cal's cheating, but even you have to admit UMass and Memphis situations gave fans a certain perception. Just an fyi I think Cal used to cheat, I'm not so sure he has to at this present time. UK is in every kids top 5-7 schools recruiting wise. Now the first 2 years might eventually turn up something, but as of now I don't think he has to be dirty to get recruits. IMO
 
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BadJerry20 said:
He didn't say 15yrs ago, he said the last 15 years or so. Meaning from 15 years till present time. There isn't proof of Cal's cheating, but even you have to admit UMass and Memphis situations gave fans a certain perception. Just an fyi I think Cal used to cheat, I'm not so sure he has to at this present time. UK is in every kids top 5-7 schools recruiting wise. Now the first 2 years might eventually turn up something, but as of now I don't think he has to be dirty to get recruits. IMO
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If i don't wear my blue tinted goggles then yes i'd say he'd had to of cheated. I even have my suspicion about Bledsoe and even Jones.
Kanter was just an unlucky situation imo. A lot of coaches were recruiting him and none of them could known that the Turkish team had been sitting on evidence proving his ineligibility.
 
#57
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UK101 said:
If i don't wear my blue tinted goggles then yes i'd say he'd had to of cheated. I even have my suspicion about Bledsoe and even Jones.
Kanter was just an unlucky situation imo. A lot of coaches were recruiting him and none of them could known that the Turkish team had been sitting on evidence proving his ineligibility.
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That's simply not true. Cal knew from day one it was a huge risk and a good chance he'd be in eligible.
 
#58
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UK101 said:
If i don't wear my blue tinted goggles then yes i'd say he'd had to of cheated. I even have my suspicion about Bledsoe and even Jones.
Kanter was just an unlucky situation imo. A lot of coaches were recruiting him and none of them could known that the Turkish team had been sitting on evidence proving his ineligibility.
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I agree, and those may eventually come back to bite him in the ass. Well UK not him, he has an uncanny knack for leaving right before sanctions hit. But I honestly don't think he will do anything going forward to warrant sanctions. I live in Louisville, so I know UofL fans hope it happens though. Lol
 
#60
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BadJerry20 said:
I agree, and those may eventually come back to bite him in the ass. Well UK not him, he has an uncanny knack for leaving right before sanctions hit. But I honestly don't think he will do anything going forward to warrant sanctions. I live in Louisville, so I know UofL fans hope it happens though. Lol
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Lol they'd love nothing more. He's a smart dude and i doubt he wants to jeopardize this gravy train he has going on right now at UK.
 
#61
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UK101 said:
Lol they'd love nothing more. He's a smart dude and i doubt he wants to jeopardize this gravy train he has going on right now at UK.
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Its funny living here cause its almost a 50/50 split UofL and UK fans. Half thinks he's Satan, and the other half thinks he's Jesus. Lol I think the only way he lives UK is if he wins another title or 2 and decides to try the NBA again. As competitive as he is I'm sure he still wants to prove he can win there. Maybe he can just trade and draft UK guys and Kentucky can finally have a pro sports team....kinda. lol
 
#62
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BadJerry20 said:
Its funny living here cause its almost a 50/50 split UofL and UK fans. Half thinks he's Satan, and the other half thinks he's Jesus. Lol I think the only way he lives UK is if he wins another title or 2 and decides to try the NBA again. As competitive as he is I'm sure he still wants to prove he can win there. Maybe he can just trade and draft UK guys and Kentucky can finally have a pro sports team....kinda. lol
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Lexington Wildcats has a good ring to it.:rock:
 
#63
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UK101 said:
I might of exaggerated a bit. But 2008 was the first time i'd actually watched Memphis for the first time. At Umass i was too young to remember him. I did know who he was at Memphis but wasn't really overly impressed. Took him 8 years to reach a final four. His scandals? Couldn't of cared less cause they didn't effect UK.
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For the love of God.

Couldn't HAVE.

Not of.

Now go back to that catsh!t forum.
 
#65
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Crazy Ivan said:
C'mon, do you really think he's cheating right now?

I don't. I also didn't think he was cheating when he was at Memphis, but according to 99% of the posters on R*pp's R*ft*rs he was a, and I quote, "cheating slimeball." But then he accepted the UK job. Now UK fans say he is as pure as the driven snow. Hypocrisy knows no bounds, I suppose.
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Well it really doesn't matter whether we think he's cheated at Memphis or not...The NCAA did apparently! I don't think he has to cheat at UK though....didn't say he wasn't .
 
#66
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Crazy Ivan said:
UK fans had no reason to follow Memphis. I remember that he made Memphis relevant but never watched one of their games until the 08 tourny. I had no reason to.

That still doesn't explain why ya serious college BB fan would not know anything about Cal, easily one of the most recognizable coaches in college BB the last 15 or so years. The stripping of the FF from UMass; the famous feuds between Cal and both Calhoun at UConn and Chaney at Temple.

His scandals? Couldn't of cared less cause they didn't effect UK.

No effect on UK? Are you serious. UK was in the process of hiring a guy who had his last 2 teams stripped of their FF appearances and you say those scandals had no effect on UK?!? Are you kidding me? That's funny considering the UK AD publicly said that while there was no proof Cal knew anything about either scandal, the UK compliance office would keep close contact with Cal (watchdog?). So how could someone who claims to be a serious UK fan at that time be unaware of any of that?
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Memphis thinks they are relevant and half the free world didn't watch them play until 2008.
 
#67
#67
Cal just won his first title...it's not surprising that he is pulling in top talent.

I don't think he's cheating now, even if he was a sleepy used car salesman at UMASS and Memphis.
 
#68
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Culbreath4Heisman said:
Cal cheated everywhere he has been. At UK, he doesn't need to cheat because they treat theirs players like they are kings. Did anyone see they did for midnight madness?
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somewhere, somehow, those kings are gettng special priveledges that are not available to the entire student body and pertain to BB. that's cheating according to the ncaa
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#69
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dovervolz said:
somewhere, somehow, those kings are gettng special priveledges that are not available to the entire student body and pertain to BB. that's cheating according to the ncaa
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What "priveledges" do you speak of that violate NCAA rules? Do you honostely believe UT players are treated as the average student?:ermm:
 
#70
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I don't know and haven't cared enough to find out myself so I'll simply ask...

That new housing for UK basketball players...what are the specifics. I heard its only for athletes, I thought there was a NCAA rule prohibiting that and requiring 51% of tenants to be non athletes.
 
#71
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bleedingTNorange said:
I don't know and haven't cared enough to find out myself so I'll simply ask...

That new housing for UK basketball players...what are the specifics. I heard its only for athletes, I thought there was a NCAA rule prohibiting that and requiring 51% of tenants to be non athletes.
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The new Wildcat Lodge is AMAZING. Personal chefs, flat screens everywhere, pool tables, games, lounges, personal rooms, etc. There is a video tour online if you want to check out. I do believe it houses non-athletes as well too.
 
#72
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cncchris33 said:
The new Wildcat Lodge is AMAZING. Personal chefs, flat screens everywhere, pool tables, games, lounges, personal rooms, etc. There is a video tour online if you want to check out. I do believe it houses non-athletes as well too.
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You are correct. NCAA stipulates a minimum of a 50/50 split of athletes to non-athletes.
 
#73
#73
bleedingTNorange said:
I don't know and haven't cared enough to find out myself so I'll simply ask...

That new housing for UK basketball players...what are the specifics. I heard its only for athletes, I thought there was a NCAA rule prohibiting that and requiring 51% of tenants to be non athletes.
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Yea the NCAA actually went through and made sure its within the rules. This is one of those examples of Cal working within the grey area. It is amazing place and does house non student athelets.

No place like home: UK's new gold standard in housing - CoachCal.com
 
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#74
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So basically some lucky students get to be treated like kings, wonder how they decide which students get to reside there...

On a side note...they've set the standard, now you'll start seeing more and more luxurious as elaborate "athletic" housing.
 
#75
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bleedingTNorange said:
So basically some lucky students get to be treated like kings, wonder how they decide which students get to reside there...

On a side note...they've set the standard, now you'll start seeing more and more luxurious as elaborate "athletic" housing.
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Students that are friends of the players or boosters kids would be a guess.
 
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