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#201
#201
FTCvol said:
No. I don't boo much, other than the refs. Not my cup of tea.

But, I don't understand condemning or restricting it, first amendment and all.

Do you think it hurts performance, in any quantitative or tangible sense?
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The first amendment? What a garbage argument. No one is saying if you boo you should go to jail. You have the right to boo and I have the right to tell you that you look like a petulant child when you do it. You can disagree with me but I am not the one booing people who are trying to do the best they can for a institution I love. I look at it like this: Is their a chance a recruit could not come here bc of booing? Maybe. Is their a chance a recruit would come because we boo? No is the answer. So the right thing to do is not boo.
 
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#202
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Can you give us any data that prove booing TRULY hurts this team? If you can't, you're just trying to pump some sunshine into something that happens everywhere. I remember UGA getting booed off the field a couple of years ago, but it doesn't seem to have hurt them. Bama got tons of boos when they lost at home to ULM.
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I've stated that IMO, it can hurt the program.

Do you deny that it can be deflating to the team??

Now give me ONE way that it could possibly help.

Don't dance around the question. Don't answer with another question. Simple question. Is there a possible way that it helps?
 
#203
#203
LaagerVol said:
You would be correct.

Just because it happens, just because it's a part of sports.... that doesn't make it right and it doesn't make it good for the program.
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It's not about right and wrong though, or at least not from my perspective.

This is how I look at it...

If my team is playing its heart out, and losing because they are playing a superior team, no reason to boo.

If my team is losing because they are making middle school mistakes, players aren't concentrating and executing properly, coaches are calling a terrible game, and we are losing to Wyoming, I'm going to boo loudly.

A lot of the people on Saturday wondered if Sal Sunseri and Derek Dooley put Butch Jones and is staff in the closet after halftime, because it looked rough against USA. It prompted a lot of feelings of last year, and the team heard it, and I hope they respond to it. The best response is to play like they are capable of, and if they don't, then they will hear it again down the road.

I don't see a thing wrong with it. I'm also thinking that some people consider booing to be heckling, which I think are two TOTALLY different things.
 
#205
#205
My reaction when I disagree with something on the field:
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#207
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LaagerVol said:
I've stated that IMO, it can hurt the program.

Do you deny that it can be deflating to the team??

Now give me ONE way that it could possibly help.

Don't dance around the question. Don't answer with another question. Simple question. Is there a possible way that it helps?
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I don't think it hurts the program.

Here's how it can help, and this is criticism in general....

If those players don't want to hear boos from their fans, then they should take every step to make sure they are playing like they are capable of playing, and execute the game plan to perfection. Everyone on the same page, everyone in sync. If I was a coach, I would put booing on the loud speakers, and challenge the players to shut it up with their play.

If people get their feeling hurt from boos in sports, especially a sport like football, then its probably time to look elsewhere for things to do.
 
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#209
utvolpj said:
so how should a proper fan express their displeasure in the coaching and/or play-calling?
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Well, I sometimes utter a basic cuss. Damn it! WTIWWY.
Or depending on the play, catch the ball damn it! Then I sit my rear down for the next play. But mostly, I just slap my knee or stomp my foot after a poor play. I never feel a need to a produce cartoon ghost noise.
 
#210
#210
Orange_Crush said:
One time that you know of.


Why sling bullets to be dodged in the first place? That's really the only point I'm making.
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Then that's fine, if that's what you choose to do. No one is slinging bullets by booing.

Don't want to be booed, don't play sports, because it happens. Look what happened to USC this year. One of the most talented teams in the country, and they are playing like crap, and they helped get their coach fired.
 
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#211
g8terh8ter_eric said:
That's happened one time, that I can remember, and we dodged a bullet with that one. Remember Josh Nunes(sp??)?
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Then that's fine, if that's what you choose to do. No one is slinging bullets by booing.

Don't want to be booed, don't play sports, because it happens. Look what happened to USC this year. One of the most talented teams in the country, and they are playing like crap, and they helped get their coach fired.
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You're contradicting yourself.
 
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#213
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Not even close. We dodged a bullet because he wasn't any good. He got booed by Stanford fans at home one time. Kid just wasn't a good QB, boos or not.
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You specifically list a recruit that crossed UT off his list two days after hearing UT fans booing the team, and still insist it's not detrimental to recruiting?

(It doesn't matter if he proved a good QB or not, by the way.)


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Giles, also interviewed Tuesday, believes the boos had to have affected Nunes, who attended the game with his family.

"I think the boos scared Nunes away," said Giles, who remains committed to the Vols. "His dad was real hot about that."

Nunes said Tuesday that distance -- not the strife caused by Tennessee fans upset with longtime coach Phillip Fulmer and first-year offensive coordinator Dave Clawson -- was the primary cause for his change of heart. [The boos] had nothing to do with it," Nunes said. "I have full faith in the Tennessee coaches."

Even if the boos played no conscious role in Nunes' choice, they couldn't have helped Tennessee's case. A loud volley of boos for the home team has to make recruits wonder if the fans truly support the team. Therein lies the dilemma for the college football fan. In the case of football factories such as Tennessee, most season-ticket holders make serious investments of money and time to support the team they love. But unlike an NFL fan, who can unleash a torrent of boos with no fear of scaring away potential free agents, the college fan voices his frustration at the risk of pushing away the very recruits who might turn around his team's fortunes.


Read More: Vocal fans not helping Tennessee's recruiting efforts - Andy Staples - SI.com
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#214
#214
Orange_Crush said:
One time that you know of.


Why sling bullets to be dodged in the first place? That's really the only point I'm making.
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That Foster guy seems unhappy about the way he was treated and now has things to say about taking money while at UT.



He straight up says he's talking now because the way we the fans treated him.

Oh well
 
#216
#216
I never have, and never will boo the Vols (even though there a few jackarses that have deserved it). It is gross stupidity, and accomplishes only negatives.
 
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#218
Brillovol said:
Take out the boo-ers and you lose only about 10k fans. Nice try.
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Which oddly enough.....when you are talking about a stadium with 100,000 capacity makes things fall right into the 10% rule.

10% of any group or organization tend to be losers, idiots or both.

Thanks for bringing a valid point. :hi:
 
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MZTERRY said:
It started out well.lol
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Thanks for posting today. Sounds like you have thick skin. I can barely read this board somedays due to all the negativity, and I don't have a son on the team.

I've enjoyed watching Croom develop and appreciate that we are trying to develop a little pipeline to Norcross. Great school.
 
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#222
#222
We started booing as a family tonight. The casserole was booed. Tv show was booed and I just got booed for telling the boys to brush their teeth.
 
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