Cal's Teleconference Today

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Supernaut said:
Unlike you(I'm confidently assuming), I actually graduated from UT. Get off your high horse. The article explicitly states what I said earlier, yet you are still trying to ignore it? We have played UM more in the past 10 years than some SEC teams, not to mention the series has been almost dead even with the home/home ratio(excluding 05). We even have a trip scheduled there in the next couple years if you care to check the schedules.

This has everything to do with recruiting, and Cal really doesn't even want to play the series at all(see Ole Miss, Arkansas).

What does the fact of this coming out last year have to do with anything? Apparently football does have A LOT to do with it because we are obviously still playing home and homes. What about that is there not to get? Get over yourself. You want to argue over who is a noob? HAHA wow. Answer my question, PLEASE.
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What is your question? I don't know how many times I have to explain that if Memphis is relying on the Home games with Tennessee to bolster their budget they will soon starve to death. Hopefully you don't think you're the only person on this board that graduated from UT. Get over your own damn self. By the way, I'm not arguing over who is a noob. It's obvious.
 
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This isn't even a debate. The current football contract with Memphis began with the 2005 game in Knoxville. Tennessee visited the Liberty Bowl in 2006, and Memphis comes to Knoxville in 2009. Each team will visit the other one more time after that. Memphis gets rewarded with TWO home games in exchange for three visits to Neyland. That's more revenue than Memphis would ever pull down as a simple payout for three trips to Knoxville. That's why the basketball series exists. Look, is Cal worth more to Memphis than a few visits from Tennessee in football? Sure he is. But you have to realize that Cal isn't going to up and Leave Memphis over having to play a home and home with Tennessee. He isn't going to the NBA, which was already a failed experiment. He isn't leaving Memphis (where he plays in an NBA arena, recruits ridiculous talent, and plays a schedule that creates perhaps an easier path to a top 4 seed than any other in the country) for any other college job in the country. He's had plenty of opportunities to do so. So that means Cal is a cash cow to Memphis regardless of whether or not he is upset about Tennessee playing in the Forum every other year. Cal does not want to play this series, he's said as much himself. If it was his decision whether or not to play UT, the series wouldn't exist. And if you don't believe that, go ask an Ole Miss or Arkansas fan. He didn't want to play those teams either, and guess what? They don't play anymore. But when it comes to Tennessee, it is clearly not his call. R.C. Johnson can have it both ways on this and he knows it. It would be absolutely ridiculous to throw away the series (money) in football over Cal getting upset, because Cal getting upset doesn't cost him a damn cent.

And by the way, save your comments about this being my first post. Your e-cred is meaningless and holds no water whatsoever.
 
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Anyone who thinks Cal can't pull the plug on the UT series at his whim is sadly mistaken. Also, I love when people who I'm quite certain have never had a meaningful conversation with the man say what he would or would not do professionally.
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hatvol96 said:
Anyone who thinks can't pull the plug on the UT series at his whim is sadly mistaken. Also, I love when people who I'm quite certain have never had a meaningful conversation with the man say what he would or would not do professionally.
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Then why hasn't he done it? He has PUBLICLY said he would rather not play at all if the series is a home and home. Yet here we are. Again, he didn't want to play Ole Miss and Arkansas anymore, and they don't play. Tennessee is a different situation, and it is not his call.
 
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JaJuan&Only said:
Then why hasn't he done it? He has PUBLICLY said he would rather not play at all if the series is a home and home. Yet here we are. Again, he didn't want to play Ole Miss and Arkansas anymore, and they don't play. Tennessee is a different situation, and it is not his call.
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The Tennessee game is going to get more attention than games against Ole Miss or Arkansas. The day John tires of the Tennessee series, it will be over.
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Supernaut said:
You seem to be more in the know than that heman bafoon, but after that last post I have to know, have you personally had a "meaningful" conversation with him over this?
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I think my track record around here is pretty clear. If I say something of that nature, it's because I know it's true. Interpret that how you'd like.
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hatvol96 said:
The Tennessee game is going to get more attention than games against Ole Miss or Arkansas. The day John tires of the Tennessee series, it will be over.
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Dude, you're missing the whole point. Cal schedules a lot of big time non-conference games for that very reason: exposure. He's played Syracuse, Georgetown, Gonzaga, Texas, Arizona, and many others in home and homes. On top of that, he's played countless big-time programs in Madison Square Garden (Duke, UConn, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Georgia Tech, USC, etc.). But you know what the difference is between all those teams and Tennessee? Geography. He doesn't want to play Tennessee because he doesn't want Bruce Pearl gaining any leverage in recruiting the Memphis area. He has nothing to gain from playing Tennessee in Memphis. Win or lose, he gets plenty of exposure from all the other big games he plays. But if he loses to the team on the other side of the state, he has to worry about that Memphis talent getting away from home. THAT is the same reason he doesn't want Ole Miss or Arkansas playing in Memphis, because they're so close to home. Of course the Tennessee game brings more exposure, but that isn't even close to what he's concerned with. He says Memphis is "national" program, and that the city of Memphis is the only part of Tennessee he heavily recruits. So letting the surrounding SEC vultures swoop through is not a positive for his program.
 
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JaJuan&Only said:
Dude, you're missing the whole point. Cal schedules a lot of big time non-conference games for that very reason: exposure. He's played Syracuse, Georgetown, Gonzaga, Texas, Arizona, and many others in home and homes. On top of that, he's played countless big-time programs in Madison Square Garden (Duke, UConn, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Georgia Tech, USC, etc.). But you know what the difference is between all those teams and Tennessee? Geography. He doesn't want to play Tennessee because he doesn't want Bruce Pearl gaining any leverage in recruiting the Memphis area. He has nothing to gain from playing Tennessee in Memphis. Win or lose, he gets plenty of exposure from all the other big games he plays. But if he loses to the team on the other side of the state, he has to worry about that Memphis talent getting away from home. He says Memphis is "national" program, and that the city of Memphis is the only part of Tennessee he heavily recruits.
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Yeah, look at all the Memphis area players on his roster the last 4 years. Cal couldn't survive without them.
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#84
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JaJuan&Only said:
Dude, you're missing the whole point. Cal schedules a lot of big time non-conference games for that very reason: exposure. He's played Syracuse, Georgetown, Gonzaga, Texas, Arizona, and many others in home and homes. On top of that, he's played countless big-time programs in Madison Square Garden (Duke, UConn, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Georgia Tech, USC, etc.). But you know what the difference is between all those teams and Tennessee? Geography. He doesn't want to play Tennessee because he doesn't want Bruce Pearl gaining any leverage in recruiting the Memphis area. He has nothing to gain from playing Tennessee in Memphis. Win or lose, he gets plenty of exposure from all the other big games he plays. But if he loses to the team on the other side of the state, he has to worry about that Memphis talent getting away from home. THAT is the same reason he doesn't want Ole Miss or Arkansas playing in Memphis, because they're so close to home. Of course the Tennessee game brings more exposure, but that isn't even close to what he's concerned with. He says Memphis is "national" program, and that the city of Memphis is the only part of Tennessee he heavily recruits. So letting the surrounding SEC vultures swoop through is not a positive for his program.
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Good job reciting a list of games in Madison Square Garden that everyone who has been on this site for any appreciable time knows I attended. You should do your homework before you start running off at the mouth. It'll help your credibility.
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, look at all the Memphis area players on his roster the last 4 years. Cal couldn't survive without them.
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He doesn't have to sign them so long as Tennessee doesn't. Elliot Williams and Leslie McDonald leaving for Duke and Carolina is better than either signing with Tennessee. Joe Jackson and Farrakhan Hall will be ugly battles as well. This all started over Willie Kemp, who was right outside of Memphis. If he doesn't care about Pearl recruiting Memphis, why the hell would he always turn the debate towards recruiting?

And I couldn't care less about my "credibility" around here. If you're a close follower of the Memphis program, my points should be as clear to you as anyone else. You've yet to tell me why Cal hasn't canceled the series. He doesn't need the exposure (in fact, this contract was crafted before playing Tennessee created any national exposure whatsoever), so what exactly is it?
 
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The only argument you have made is that Memphis needs the Tennessee football game in the Liberty Bowl in order to continue the basketball series, which is ludicrous. And it's spelled buffoon. Arguing with an idiot makes one an idiot also so I'm done with that exercise.
 
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So I assume you know a touch about college hoops hat. Giggle giggle wink wink nod.
 
#89
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JaJuan&Only said:
He doesn't have to sign them so long as Tennessee doesn't. Elliot Williams and Leslie McDonald leaving for Duke and Carolina is better than either signing with Tennessee. Joe Jackson and Farrakhan Hall will be ugly battles as well. This all started over Willie Kemp, who was right outside of Memphis. If he doesn't care about Pearl recruiting Memphis, why the hell would he always turn the debate towards recruiting?

And I couldn't care less about my "credibility" around here. If you're a close follower of the Memphis program, my points should be as clear to you as anyone else. You've yet to tell me why Cal hasn't canceled the series. He doesn't need the exposure (in fact, this contract was crafted before playing Tennessee created any national exposure whatsoever), so what exactly is it?
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He turns the debate toward recruiting because that buttresses his case that playing the series is of no benefit to Memphis as a home and home. Cal has been calling for the game to be played in Nashville since he took the job. That long predates the recruitment of Willie Kemp. At this point, it's not worth it to Cal to burn the political capital to end the series. If and when it becomes enough of an annoyance, he'll call in his chips and kill the game.
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hatvol96 said:
He turns the debate toward recruiting because that buttresses his case that playing the series is of no benefit to Memphis as a home and home. Cal has been calling for the game to be played in Memphis since he took the job. That long predates the recruitment of Willie Kemp. At this point, it's not worth it to Cal to burn the political capital to end the series. If and when it becomes enough of an annoyance, he'll call in his chips and kill the game.
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So playing the recruiting card, acting like he'd rather play in Nashville or not at all, and all of the whiny comments...are all a carefully calculated front? Sorry, I'm not buying it at all. I'd love to know when Cal advocated Tennessee playing in Memphis, but he isn't the personal confidant to me that he so clearly is to you.
 
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JaJuan&Only said:
So playing the recruiting card, acting like he'd rather play in Nashville or not at all, and all of the whiny comments...are all a carefully calculated front? Sorry, I'm not buying it at all.
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If you choose not to buy the truth, that's not my problem.
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hatvol96 said:
If you choose not to buy the truth, that's not my problem.
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But just to be clear, you're going solely off of personal information, and nothing that Cal has ever publicly said or indicated? Just making sure, so next time I don't get into an un-winnable battle with such an important figure. I should have known better, considering all the Memphis basketball "insiders" that have 30,000+ posts on a UT board.
 
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Hat, why doesn't the U of M invest more money in its football operations? Maybe the answer is simple, maybe it's complex, but lay it on me.
 
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Supernaut said:
You have offered nothing but insults alongside your meaningless opinion on this, and I offered a S-O-U-R-C-E. Not only that, but you have no means of disproving what I said. WHAT IS THERE TO GET?

An internet threat? What a man you are! Can you even make a legitimate reply without attacking the intelligence of someone you are completely oblivious to outside of 30 posts on a message board? You are unbelievably dense. This place is a **** hair below anything Alabama fans could ever muster together.

ban away.
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Your source is a Mike Strange article? Maybe you are an Alabama fan in sheeps clothing. I can't believe you are making accusations of personal attacks. Every one of your posts since this started are filled with said attacks.. Still don't know where any threat is.
 
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JaJuan&Only said:
So playing the recruiting card, acting like he'd rather play in Nashville or not at all, and all of the whiny comments...are all a carefully calculated front? Sorry, I'm not buying it at all. I'd love to know when Cal advocated Tennessee playing in Memphis, but he isn't the personal confidant to me that he so clearly is to you.
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If you would look, I realized I typed Memphis instead of Nashville and corrected my initial post. Perhaps if you had read the interview I did with Cal for this site before last season, there would have been no confusion.
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#99
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IPorange said:
The SEC is kind of a joke this year, too. Except it isn't as funny.
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Not so sure the SEC is as down as has been reported. It seems when KY loses a couple of early non-conference games to mid-majors it automatically makes the SEC "down".
 
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