Can the free market fix "School Shootings"?

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Between our crappy national infrastructure, the need to update school security, and the supplies needed to do both, we've got significant possibilities for jobs, jobs, and more jobs.
 
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If by "fixing" we mean completely eliminating, it's going to take some leaps in technology to get there. Some day, machines will be able to handle building security. Even then, somebody could snipe kids at recess, but at least you could count on nobody getting in a building with a piece.
 
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AshG said:
Between our crappy national infrastructure, the need to update school security, and the supplies needed to do both, we've got significant possibilities for jobs, jobs, and more jobs.
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Yippee! More government union jobs!
 
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From an architectural design perspective, I think schools should be more difficult to get into, but much easier to get out of. Sounds pie in the sky because more means of egress means more potential breaches for entry. Most schools have corridors which all rooms (classrooms, caffeteria, gym, etc.) empty in to. I think that is fish in a barrel. If every room had two means of exterior egress per interior corridor entry point, I think you could evacuate schools very quickly during one of these rampages. You could even possibly empty the classroom where the shooter starts because he could only block one door leaving two open.
 
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LouderVol said:
The easy answer seems to be private schools, responsible for their own security. Schools with low security scores are going to be less attractive than those with higher, similar to academics or athletics or whatever.
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Start Bible classes in elementary school, teach right and wrong. Teach that kids more than some evolved goo.
 
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n_huffhines said:
If by "fixing" we mean completely eliminating, it's going to take some leaps in technology to get there. Some day, machines will be able to handle building security. Even then, somebody could snipe kids at recess, but at least you could count on nobody getting in a building with a piece.
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So depending on our tech level or budget at the time we can be either here

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or here

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Rickyvol77 said:
Metal detectors aren’t efficient and you would require 2-3 armed personnel at every entrance. Not even close to being feasible
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On huff's behalf do remember this was predicated on "leaps in technology". Since I'm quite certain you aren't in the "Let's make it all about the guns." camp what sort of, even if we aren't quite there yet, idea would you float for school defense that would be at least mostly universal, practical and affordable? Not holding you to anything...just brainstorm a little.
 
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I don’t think the free market can fix it, because it’s not just a supply problem. In my opinion, we have a culture centered on hyper individualism/violence, we have crap mental health services and we’re too lax on who gets high powered weapons.
 
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One way in. The entrance is a corridor with metal detectors and bullet proof glass upon entry....doors on the entrance and exit of the corridor. If the detector goes off the doors automatically lock trapping the person inside. An armed guard has to determine if the person is actually armed or not and unlock the door manually if there is no threat. That would be a start.
 
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hndog609 said:
On huff's behalf do remember this was predicated on "leaps in technology". Since I'm quite certain you aren't in the "Let's make it all about the guns." camp what sort of, even if we aren't quite there yet, idea would you float for school defense that would be at least mostly universal, practical and affordable? Not holding you to anything...just brainstorm a little.
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Better school counselors and parenting and the ability for schools to easier suspend and expel problem children. More mental health long term facilities for violent kids to be locked up in
 
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LouderVol said:
Unless the shooter is inside. And then you gave them a fortress to defend with isolated hostages with no way out. And most of the school shooting only seem to start in the school, so the lockdown protocols arent going to achieve the desired result.

This texas one seems to be the exception, starting elsewhere and ending up at the school.
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Room doors lock. Separate buildings lock out. If he’s inside then there’s very little opportunity to do anything
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Without invoking the phrase "there ought to be laws about...", can someone walk me through what a free market solution to (specifically) school shootings might look like? How would a company or partnership of several companies attack the problem in a way that benefits everyone, including their share holders? What if an innovative thinker like an Elon Musk were to try and tackle this problem? Where would he start? New technology always seems to be an avenue for solving emerging problems. What about an overhaul of school architectural design practices?
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Hold schools accountable for the safety of children. That would be the market answer. If you require the zone to be gun free, you take 100% liability for the safety of all occupants
 
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Volatility said:
I don’t think the free market can fix it, because it’s not just a supply problem. In my opinion, we have a culture centered on hyper individualism/violence, we have crap mental health services and we’re too lax on who gets high powered weapons.
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What about the supply of security?
 
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