Can the Republican Party recover?

[Grand Vol]

Duh! Where you are on the map, you look down on it.

It's always windy in Oklahoma because Texas sucks and Kansas blows.

 

[1972 Grad]

It's always windy in Oklahoma because Texas sucks and Kansas blows.

I was pulling a car trailer through western Oklahoma several years ago. There was a very strong crosswind blowing out of my right. I was pulling with a Ford van. I had to keep the steering wheel cranked to the right in order to fight the wind and keep the rig in the road. When I drove under an underpass, the wind of course stopped, and the van with trailer turned right because of the way I was having to steer it.

 

[Sandman 423]

There going to lose the senate. Two horrible R candidates and Dems are being far more active in runoff.

Ole Chucky and AOC may have helped the R's keep those seats for now. They are running some ads with Chuck saying that they are going to take the senate so that they can transform the country and AOC saying that once they take the senate they won't have to negotiate with anyone.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Did they lose ground in the house of reps? So much ground lost, some are blaming Pelosi and she’s in denial.

Picked up another seat yesterday and still another 8 to 10 I think yet to be called.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

He'll be far too old in 4 yrs. I'd rather he enthusiastically support the GOP candidate in 2024

Old? In 4 years he'd be the same age Joe Biden is now.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

My preference would be DeSantis from FL or Abbott from Texas. Nikki Haley as a running mate

Replace Haley with Kristi Noem then we can talk.

 

[Sea Ray]

Hell no on Abbott. He still has Texas shutdown

What has he shutdown? He's allowing 50% capacity for football games. That's more generous than any other state I can think of

 

[Sea Ray]

Old? In 4 years he'd be the same age Joe Biden is now.

And that's far too old. I think that point was made loud and clear by Trump supporters in this election

 

[CagleMtnVol]

And that's far too old. I think that point was made loud and clear by Trump supporters in this election

And apparently millions have no problem with it.

 

[Sea Ray]

And apparently millions have no problem with it.

Those millions hated Trump more than they cared about age. You won't get them in 2024

Republicans (and Democrats for that matter) need fresh blood. Time to move on from Trump

 

[GSD82]

What has he shutdown? He's allowing 50% capacity for football games. That's more generous than any other state I can think of

NorthDallas corrected me on that

 

[RavinDave]

If Abbot is on the ticket, I'm out.

Is that an Abbot thing or a Texas thing? Or both?

 

[hog88]

Is that an Abbot thing or a Texas thing? Or both?

TX thing mostly.

 

[VolinMichigan]

Did I miss something or did Republicans not pick up a lot of seats in state houses across the country?

Did everyone not predict a blue wave only for Republicans to have red wave picking up seats in the house?

The Republican party is now Trump's Republican Party, and once dementia Joe and heels starts going Socialist, Republicans will finally take the house back in 2 years.

But how did the GOP make those gains with all the alleged fraud going on?

 

[VolinMichigan]

The left cheated, they counted tens of thousands of illegal ballots. They set this us the whole time

Again, because der fuhrer says it, doesn’t make it true.

 

[General Jack]

Again, because der fuhrer says it, doesn’t make it true.

Even Bill Barr has admitted there was no meaningful fraud. These silly MAGAs just can’t let go. But that’s how cults work.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Even Bill Barr has admitted there was no meaningful fraud. These silly MAGAs just can’t let go. But that’s how cults work.

Not what he said. The investigation wasn’t completed.

 

[General Jack]

Not what he said. The investigation wasn’t completed.

AGs don’t put out public statements if there is more than a remote chance they will have to contradict themselves.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

AGs don’t put out public statements if there is more than a remote chance they will have to contradict themselves.

It wouldn’t be a contradiction if something was found as the investigations move forward. He didn’t say that there was no meaningful fraud. He said that nothing had been found so far.

 

[General Jack]

It wouldn’t be a contradiction if something was found as the investigations move forward. He didn’t say that there was no meaningful fraud. He said that nothing had been found so far.

Then why would he bother to make a statement at all? One that undercuts trump?

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Then why would he bother to make a statement at all? One that undercuts trump?

Because the media was asking. He doesn’t need Trump’s permission first.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Speaking to the Associated Press, Barr said that, "to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election."

“To date”...

 

[General Jack]

Speaking to the Associated Press, Barr said that, "to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election."

“To date”...

And why say anything at all? I missed that.

So his next statement will be... “well look here, NOW we’ve found something, we just weren’t looking very hard before my first statement, which in retrospect, was premature and unnecessary.”

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

And why say anything at all? I missed that.

So his next statement will be... “well look here, NOW we’ve found something, we just weren’t looking very hard before my first statement, which in retrospect, was premature and unnecessary.”

“However, Barr said earlier that people were confusing the use of the federal criminal justice system with allegations that should be made in civil lawsuits. He said a remedy for many complaints would be a top-down audit by state or local officials, not the U.S. Justice Department.

“There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all,” he said, but first there must be a basis to believe there is a crime to investigate.

“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. ... And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.” “

 

[General Jack]

“However, Barr said earlier that people were confusing the use of the federal criminal justice system with allegations that should be made in civil lawsuits. He said a remedy for many complaints would be a top-down audit by state or local officials, not the U.S. Justice Department.

“There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all,” he said, but first there must be a basis to believe there is a crime to investigate.

“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. ... And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.” “

That’s another example of him moving forward and absolving himself.