Carson Beck out for playoffs

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The biggest thing with Stockton was that he pretty much refused to throw anything over the middle third. Everything was a perimeter throw usually off the first read. Bobo is really going to have to make some changes and get him some RPOs and some designed runs. This may look more like a 2010 power qb run offense than the 2024 throw is around the field offense
 
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Has anyone heard what the actual injury is to Beck?

Everything I am seeing is just saying elbow.
 
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GVF said:
I think Stockton is underrated. He only lacks reasonable game time experience. He is highly talented. His big knock would be he's not the typical 6'3" or taller QB we see now. He will struggle in drop backs against a large DL to see the routes. From a team unity perspective UGA will be better with him. Beck is a me person. I may be in my own camp that his Lambo attitude has been the UGA disconnect all season where many have thought it just wasn't the same UGA. No one would just say it though. And Kirby was his enabler. Who has their Lambo delivered to an away game in order to drive it to the stadium. Beck has not been engaged as a team leader IMO. Saban would have never allowed that. I look for Stockton to break out during the CFP and stake his claim on the next two years. If he eventually loses out to another starter, then GA will definitely have a QB in whomever takes it from him. Flip side is that GA still hasn't had that receiver step forward in full this year, or a consistent OL. So, even if Stockton games it up, who does he have to help consistently the next few games.
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I bet he drove the speed limit too.
 
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volfan102455 said:
IMO, the playoffs have NEVER been about the BEST teams being selected - but the subjective selection of the "best teams" out of a selective few with the "best records" from the top conferences. The subjective selection has always had a "human" viewpoint around what criteria is used to determine "best". Every year there has always been debate around the last team selected verses those left out. Even in 1998, some would still say Tennessee should not have been in that game.

With the increase to 12, there is more room so generally the "selective few" with the "best records" are going to be in the 12. Thus the "subjective" view is now focused on ranking / seeding of the 12.

As such a team with a "best record" that has an injury to a key player will not have the same impact when there were just 2 or 4 teams selected.

Had UGA lost to Texas incurring that 3rd loss with the injury to Beck it would have been a much different conversation, at least with the ranking of the teams and maybe even with the ultimately placement of UGA in the top 12.
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Tennessee wasn’t who was questioned that year. It was FSU as 1-loss Ohio State was thought to be better.
 
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Visidog said:
I get that it’s hard to get past the memory of the bowl game, but this UGA fan kinda thinks FSU got screwed. Yes UGA had an argument to be in the playoff last year, but not as against FSU. We had a weak OOC schedule, didn’t win our conference, and we lost to Bama. While I don’t think losing a conference championship game should count against a team as compared to somebody sitting at home, that’s not what happened. Bama went instead of us.

And what else can you ask of FSU? Win all your games? Did that. Win with a backup or third string QB? Did that. Win your conference championship game without your starter? Did that. Yeah it was ugly after Travis went down, but they won.

Ugly wins are wins. If UGA pulls out a clown show derpfest win against ND or Indiana where Stockton plays like trash but we catch all the breaks, nobody will be suggesting that somebody else advance. FSU won ugly without Travis, but style points don’t show up on the scoreboard.

I can certainly tell you why I think UGA was better than FSU last year (especially without Travis), but I just can’t get past how screwed I’d feel to win all the games and get passed over by teams with a loss.
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The committee claimed they wanted the 4 best teams. From that perspective they should’ve taken UGA. Now, if they shifted to “most deserving” then FSU got screwed. Instead, the committee did neither. That’s what bugged me last year. They just made crap up to justify each selection with zero consistency.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
While I understand all that, winning a bad conference shouldn't be an auto qualifier imo. I absolutely hate Boise St and ASU getting bye in the current format. That is trash imo and it likely will never be perfect. In the case of FSU they got exposed much like I expect Boise and ASU to do. TCU ring a bell ?
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It’s interesting everyone uses TCU as an example but it’s a bad example because they did win a playoff game against a solid Michigan team. No one was beating UGA.
 
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VolNRaleighNC said:
Pretty sure it’s the UCL but the severity is the question. Does he need full on TJ surgery?
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From what I have read, he’s more likely a candidate for the same brace surgery that Brock Purdy had done a while back. NFL teams don’t have the same level of comfort with TJ as the MLB teams, so if he can avoid the full Tommy John, he probably will.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
It’s interesting everyone uses TCU as an example but it’s a bad example because they did win a playoff game against a solid Michigan team. No one was beating UGA.
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While that is likely true, look at last night for example. ND dominated a bad football team who could not compete. The final says it was a 10 point game however the contest was never in doubt. TCU is just one example and Michigan totally sh1t the bed in that game. However yes you are correct they beat Michigan. Congrats on that feat, there will never be a perfect scenario for the playoffs though.
 
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volfanbill said:
Ewers was inaccurate and Kirby toned everything down so your boy wouldn’t be lost. Texas isn’t good at all. To tie it up, they’ve played a worse schedule than fsu last year
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Then so have we. Texas and Tennessee played nearly identical schedules. In conference the main difference is they played at A&M while we played Bama at home. Slight edge us. OOC they played at Michigan while we played NC State neutral. Slight edge to TX.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
While that is likely true, look at last night for example. ND dominated a bad football team who could not compete. The final says it was a 10 point game however the contest was never in doubt. TCU is just one example and Michigan totally sh1t the bed in that game. However yes you are correct they beat Michigan. Congrats on that feat, there will never be a perfect scenario for the playoffs though.
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It is certainly my an imperfect system but I’m stoked we have these fun games to watch rather than crap bowls no one cares about playing in. Well, we have those too so best of both worlds! Fix it so there no auto byes and this is about as good as it gets.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
It is certainly my an imperfect system but I’m stoked we have these fun games to watch rather than crap bowls no one cares about playing in. Well, we have those too so best of both worlds! Fix it so there no auto byes and this is about as good as it gets.
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Actually I think that's the best alternative. But to do that ypu have to do away with Conference Championship games. Think you also would need to go to a 9 game conference schedule
 
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BigALWiLson said:
Actually I think that's the best alternative. But to do that ypu have to do away with Conference Championship games. Think you also would need to go to a 9 game conference schedule
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I’m fine with auto bids I just don’t like the auto byes. They definitely need to do something to try and even out schedules. It’s either that or they actually have to use SOS. How being in a championship game trumps SOS is beyond me as anyone knows not all conferences are equal.
 
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RockiesTop22 said:
Looks like he needs elbow surgery.

Never happy when I guy gets injured- but maybe he should’ve saved that Lambo money- draft stock already plummeted now this.

Anyone think they can beat presumably Notre Dame without him? I wouldn’t be surprised- but I don’t think they can make a full run without him.
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Check the ads for a used Lambo.
 
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RockiesTop22 said:
Looks like he needs elbow surgery.

Never happy when I guy gets injured- but maybe he should’ve saved that Lambo money- draft stock already plummeted now this.

Anyone think they can beat presumably Notre Dame without him? I wouldn’t be surprised- but I don’t think they can make a full run without him.
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ND won't be able to sniff the endzone. They won't score more than 10 points.
 
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UTFanForLife said:
Probably should get his eyes checked too, keeps throwing it to the wrong jersey color.
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Yeah if you knew anything about ball you’d use your eyes to see that receivers weren’t doing that man any favors. Still lit up a couple secondaries.
 
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Nooga said:
Yeah if you knew anything about ball you’d use your eyes to see that receivers weren’t doing that man any favors. Still lit up a couple secondaries.
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You join Joe as a Georgia fan?

Also, I’m blind as a bat, I can’t see the receivers.
 
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Visidog said:
I get that it’s hard to get past the memory of the bowl game, but this UGA fan kinda thinks FSU got screwed. Yes UGA had an argument to be in the playoff last year, but not as against FSU. We had a weak OOC schedule, didn’t win our conference, and we lost to Bama. While I don’t think losing a conference championship game should count against a team as compared to somebody sitting at home, that’s not what happened. Bama went instead of us.

And what else can you ask of FSU? Win all your games? Did that. Win with a backup or third string QB? Did that. Win your conference championship game without your starter? Did that. Yeah it was ugly after Travis went down, but they won.

Ugly wins are wins. If UGA pulls out a clown show derpfest win against ND or Indiana where Stockton plays like trash but we catch all the breaks, nobody will be suggesting that somebody else advance. FSU won ugly without Travis, but style points don’t show up on the scoreboard.

I can certainly tell you why I think UGA was better than FSU last year (especially without Travis), but I just can’t get past how screwed I’d feel to win all the games and get passed over by teams with a loss.
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My wife makes the best banana bread. It’s out-of-this-world restaurant quality and sold in several bakeries around town. People rave about how good it is.

This year as she was finishing up her holiday batches for delivery she realized she forgot to add the sugar. We each tried a piece and it was edible, but obviously not the same and not for public consumption.

Should she go ahead and take it to the bakeries and tell them to sell it anyway, since it’s still her banana bread?
 
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BigALWiLson said:
While that is likely true, look at last night for example. ND dominated a bad football team who could not compete. The final says it was a 10 point game however the contest was never in doubt. TCU is just one example and Michigan totally sh1t the bed in that game. However yes you are correct they beat Michigan. Congrats on that feat, there will never be a perfect scenario for the playoffs though.
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The perfect scenario is 8 max IMO. On most years I don’t think there are more than 4 teams good enough to win a title but getting those 4 in with the various biases and criteria is tough. 8 should accomplish that and not get it so watered down. There’s a reason a team is ranked 10-16. They’re not very capable of winning 4 straight games period, let alone against the best of the best.
 
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