Casey Anthony - The Decision Is In!

#401
#401
GoBigOrangeVols said:
lying to the investigators and making false statements is the crime she was convicted of.

the baby turning up in a swamp doesn't prove that she abused it, sadly, but I agree that not reporting it missing for 30 days should absolutely be considered neglect.
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What was ever made out of the dead smell in her car?
 
#402
#402
GoBigOrangeVols said:
lying to the investigators and making false statements is the crime she was convicted of.

the baby turning up in a swamp doesn't prove that she abused it, sadly, but I agree that not reporting it missing for 30 days should absolutely be considered neglect.
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And it would have lasted longer if Cindy didn't keep asking Casey where the hell her granddaughter was....This while Casey knowingly was lying to her about being with a fake nanny. It's absurd I tell you....
 
#403
#403
rockytop9808 said:
If there isn't proof there's no reason to instantly assume someone committed a crime.

Unless you enjoy witch hunts, I guess.
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Her child disappeared over a month. She made up multiple stories at that time. Made up other stories for trial purposes. Yea it's just a witch hunt.
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#404
vol4eva said:
How is neglecting to report a missing child for a month in which she later turns up in a swamp dead not a crime? I was almost positive they'd nail her on child abuse.
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It's a crime, but it's not child abuse because the kid was already dead.
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#405
#405
pl3 said:
As others stated, belief doesn't matter anyway. Proof does. It is what it is. Not the first to go without punishment and not the last. I was in a jury for a trial and we all had our opinions/beliefs but the bloodwork was misplaced. We had no choice.
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The case I was on was just the opposite. A guy shot a convenience store clerk who managed to return fire and kill the original shooter. They tried to get the poor clerk on murder. I've never been so glad I was on a jury in my life.
 
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#406
rockytop9808 said:
What I really don't understand is how people are coming to complex conclusions about her guilt without having been in the courtroom or having held and seen all of the evidence. All anyone knows here is what came through the media, which almost universally declared her guilty from the get-go.
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Not complex at all.

All you need are the basic facts.

Failed to report her daughter missing for over a month. Neglect if there ever was a case.

The constant lying.

What she was doing while the child was missing.

All to fishy and not enough for a murder one case but ya gotaa believe somewhere in your heart that this wasn't an accident.
 
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#408
GAVol said:
Have any of you ever sat on a jury in a capital case? I have. It's an excruciating process.
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<. Horrible experience.

GAVol said:
I was too. I fully expected the jury to use the lesser charges as a cop out, but it's clear this jury just wasn't going to buy the circumstantial case.
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You'd know from your jury experience, there's no way to really pull that off, and there only needs to be one person of the 12 to keep everybody honest... There's no perfect judicial system, but nobody in the history of planet Earth has come up with a better one than we have here so far.

As for this thread in general... Lot of posters on VN letting Nancy Grace lead them around by the you-know-what.
 
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#411
milohimself said:
<. Horrible experience.


You'd know from your jury experience, there's no way to really pull that off, and there only needs to be one person of the 12 to keep everybody honest... There's no perfect judicial system, but nobody in the history of planet Earth has come up with a better one than we have here so far.

As for this thread in general... Lot of posters on VN letting Nancy Grace lead them around by the you-know-what.
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This is what everyone is missing. It's not like juries vote American Idol style. It only takes one of 12 to throw a wrench in things.
 
#412
#412
Accidental or not, Casey knew her daughter was dead and failed to report it for a month. That's neglect....
 
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#415
GahLee said:
Not complex at all.

All you need are the basic facts.

Failed to report her daughter missing for over a month. Neglect if there ever was a case.

The constant lying.

What she was doing while the child was missing.

All to fishy and not enough for a murder one case but ya gotaa believe somewhere in your heart that this wasn't an accident.
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The only possible charge that she should have ever gotten was for neglect. That's it.

There is one very important "basic" fact missing- cause of death. Without that, no one knows what happened to the baby.

What I believe in my heart does not and should not matter. Assuming guilt in this and any other case is unjust and illegal.
 
#417
#417
If nothing else good comes out of this, I hope that it encourages people to learn about the criminal justice system so that they can better understand that it is run by evidence, not emotion.

And if any of the people who are outraged by this outcome are ever on the defendant side of a criminal action, I think you will find that you are very happy that evidence will be needed before the state can take your freedom from you.
 
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#418
GAVol said:
The case I was on was just the opposite. A guy shot a convenience store clerk who managed to return fire and kill the original shooter. They tried to get the poor clerk on murder. I've never been so glad I was on a jury in my life.
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This is justice but should never have been a question. Even though justice was served it was something that should have never went to trial. I can imagine how scared the clerk was through all this for simply defending his life from someone that the world is probably better without.
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#419
#419
GAVol said:
This is what everyone is missing. It's not like juries vote American Idol style. It only takes one of 12 to throw a wrench in things.
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And the person next to you may not understand anyway. We had to keep telling 2 people it didn't matter what they thought because their thoughts were derived from assumptions rather than proof.
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#421
#421
Am I correct in assuming that most people here think she killed her daughter? A toddler doesn't magically end up in a trash bag with duct tape in a swamp left to rot. Someone had to of placed her there, and yet there will never be justice for Caylee.
 
#423
#423
You guys keep saying it only takes one. One results in a hung jury and retrial, no? It would take all twelve to return the non-guilty verdict? If that is indeed the case, it can't really pinned on one of them. While someone in there swayed some opinions, they all made the same vote.
 
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NewToVolCountry said:
You guys keep saying it only takes one. One results in a hung jury and retrial, no? It would take all twelve to return the non-guilty verdict? If that is indeed the case, it can't really pinned on one of them. While someone in there swayed some opinions, they all made the same vote.
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correct. it has to be unanimous one way or the other.
 
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