CBJ and his interviews????

#51
#51
What specific elements of his oratorical style are you referring to as "different," gogators13? Butch is a superb motivator and, above all else, he never loses an opportunity to market the program in public interviews. That objective leads him to place a premium on putting his best personal foot forward, as opposed to engaging in Spurrieresque barbs. To coin a "Butchism," he eminently prefers to be a fountain of positivity rather than an energy drain.

I suppose you could characterize Butch's oratorical style as "slogan-driven," but, by all accounts, he truly believes in them. Certain elements of his rhetorical style, like those of any clearly recognizable style, are obviously scripted. Evidence for this statement can be seen in the consistency with which he prefers certain words to the absolute exclusion of equally appropriate alternatives. For example, he uses "individuals" ad nauseum, when "persons," "people," "players," or reference by position would be much appreciated by those of us who listen to him with regularity.

Depending on your intention, your reference to his style as possibly that of an "Ivy League" coach is, in my opinion, erroneous. First of all, Butch simply does not have that kind of academic background. He is a graduate of Ferris State University, not the more highly respected University of Michigan at Ann Arbor. He may enunciate with great clarity, as opposed to, say, Ed Orgeron. However, Butch does not utilize what I would consider a professorial vocabulary, such as that employed by William F. Buckley, Jr.
 
#52
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gogators13 said:
I'm not comparing him to Muschamp or any other coach in the SEC... Over look the username. His interviews are different. I'm not bragging but if you have been in over 40 UT games for free or have give speeches to the team... I have and grew up in FL.... :). Just an opinion.
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Interviews must line up with on the field behavior. Today’s players know who Muschump REALLY is. You’re correct in that few of us have been privy to Muschump’s pre-game speeches, but either he’s real or he isn’t. To me….CBJ is real----Based on my limited knowledge Muschump isn’t someone I would play my guts out for. I think CBJ is honest and sincere. and the Players know the truth and they’ll take it to the field. It will take another year but it’s coming.
 
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gogators13 said:
This.... Look at Fulmers overall record vs UTs last 5 years. Fulmer was a straight shooter and it didn't matter who you were. He even asked me the hard questions... :)
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I'd love Fulmer if I was a Florida fan too. What was his record vs. the Gators?
 
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gogators13 said:
Neal. Took the important carries.. He did break a 1,000 yards for a reason and took twice as many carriers... Troll on.

When you can show when Lane took the carries at what point in the ball games. We can talk.
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I, as well as other vol fans who tried to point this out to you as well, do know when lane carried the ball. It was not only in garbage time. Learn about football, then we can talk.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
What specific elements of his oratorical style are you referring to as "different," gogators13? Butch is a superb motivator and, above all else, he never loses an opportunity to market the program in public interviews. That objective leads him to place a premium on putting his best personal foot forward, as opposed to engaging in Spurrieresque barbs. To coin a "Butchism," he eminently prefers to be a fountain of positivity rather than an energy drain.

I suppose you could characterize Butch's oratorical style as "slogan-driven," but, by all accounts, he truly believes in them. Certain elements of his rhetorical style, like those of any clearly recognizable style, are obviously scripted. Evidence for this statement can be seen in the consistency with which he prefers certain words to the absolute exclusion of equally appropriate alternatives. For example, he uses "individuals" ad nauseum, when "persons," "people," "players," or reference by position would be much appreciated by those of us who listen to him with regularity.

Depending on your intention, your reference to his style as possibly that of an "Ivy League" coach is, in my opinion, erroneous. First of all, Butch simply does not have that kind of academic background. He is a graduate of Ferris State University, not the more highly respected University of Michigan at Ann Arbor. He may enunciate with great clarity, as opposed to, say, Ed Orgeron. However, Butch does not utilize what I would consider a professorial vocabulary, such as that employed by William F. Buckley, Jr.
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And nothing wrong with it... Just a different style for the SEC...
 
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oskiee said:
Interviews must line up with on the field behavior. Today’s players know who Muschump REALLY is. You’re correct in that few of us have been privy to Muschump’s pre-game speeches, but either he’s real or he isn’t. To me….CBJ is real----Based on my limited knowledge Muschump isn’t someone I would play my guts out for. I think CBJ is honest and sincere. and the Players know the truth and they’ll take it to the field. It will take another year but it’s coming.
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And why is CMC important... Not comparing... In this thread.
 
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gogators13 said:
This.... Look at Fulmers overall record vs UTs last 5 years. Fulmer was a straight shooter and it didn't matter who you were. He even asked me the hard questions... :)
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10-3
5-6
9-4
10-4
5-7

minus the two bad seasons... the ONLY two

all teams have down years.. key injuries..players going to the NFL early(which we had a ton of). Sh*t happens...

Our fans got so used to winning, that they started to expect it... and it was all CPF. Majors didn't win like that no matter how much people try to invent that he was this God among coaches. CPF gave us the culture of winning, and our fans forgot it was all him.. thought that another coach could come in and put us back on top immediately, because we are Tennessee.

Well we all got a taste of life without him, and they still try to justify it by making things up... like he got complacent..

Or your comment about the last 5 years he was going steadily down hill.. its just not true. We just had 2 bad years where the cards got stacked against us. And the man who put us on top in the first place. Took all the blame.
 
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615vols said:
I, as well as other vol fans who tried to point this out to you as well, do know when lane carried the ball. It was not only in garbage time. Learn about football, then we can talk.
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Yep... Just what I thought... No problem with Lane... I played against his H.S. in football in a different era. Just opinions without facts.
 
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gogators13 said:
Yep... Just what I thought... No problem with Lane... I played against his H.S. in football in a different area. Just opinions without facts.
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You can say it as many times as you'd like, but anyone who's watched the vols over the past few years knows that when lane has carried the ball, its been against starters. Your inability to understand what splitting carries means says everything. You are a straight troll.
 
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ImportedVoL said:
This is the only thing I will give to the anti-fulmer crowd. The rest of it is Bullsh*t and everyone knows it no matter if you will admit it or not.
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I'm probably more pro-Fulmer than anti-Fulmer, so save your ammunition. Hindsight is always 20/20, and obviously no one expected the sh*tshow of the last 5 years back when he was canned.
 
#62
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I think Butch rarely strays far from his script. He is well prepared when he speaks and given the smallest opening he will find a way to inject his message. He is very positive overall, but that is usually when looking to the future. He is all about potential at this time. Someday soon he will need to switch gears a bit and be all about results. Overall, he is a strong voice for UT and is great at managing expectations.

Oh, and I like Spurrier. Very few are more fun to listen to when he is being candid, which is almost always.
 
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615vols said:
You can say it as many times as you'd like, but anyone who's watched the vols over the past few years knows that when lane has carried the ball, its been against starters. Your inability to understand what splitting carries means says everything. You are a straight troll.
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Splitting carries??? One back has over 200 carries and another has 100??? One back has over 1,000 yards and another has over 500. Who is the main back and starter??? I know that college football uses many backs but Neal was the feature back.

Comparing Lane and Hurd to Taylor, Jones, Mack, Lane, and Powell.

3 of the FL backs have played in the SEC.

Back on subject CBJ...
 
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The man is prepared for any interview; he has his generic answers. (Brick by Brick, 102,455, development, mental/physical conditioning) Here's to hoping we throttle USU and not overlooking Arkansas St in preparation for Norman, OK. GO VOLS from California!
 
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Maybe the word "script' was what I was looking for besides the word Verbiage. I guess most of us are not use to coaches that scripted during their interviews. We normally see coaches in the SEC just going off the cuff.
 
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I think of Butch like a military commander. He's most at home speaking to his troops and least at home speaking to civilians. I think he's a cliche junkie and a self help junkie and so when it comes time to speak to the masses he puts together a script and stays with it. That he is always looking for a way to get better while still holding his own core values strong makes him a rare talent IMO. The smartest men know they know nothing. I don't think of Butch as the most eloquent but I don't think he does either.
 
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gogators13 said:
I told you... Been around Ut ball for years and football in general. I don't live on fantasy Island or make believe land.
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Never doubted you. I am just curious how much influence you had during your years around the UT football program and the reasons you were in Knoxville.
 
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gogators13 said:
Splitting carries??? One back has over 200 carries and another has 100??? One back has over 1,000 yards and another has over 500. Who is the main back and starter??? I know that college football uses many backs but Neal was the feature back.

Comparing Lane and Hurd to Taylor, Jones, Mack, Lane, and Powell.

3 of the FL backs have played in the SEC.

Back on subject CBJ...
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And lanes carries were meaningful snaps, not just garbage time. If you don't believe it, you can look up box scores and play by plays and see exactly when lane got his carries troll.
 
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gogators13 said:
Maybe the word "script' was what I was looking for besides the word Verbiage. I guess most of us are not use to coaches that scripted during their interviews. We normally see coaches in the SEC just going off the cuff.
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I think you'll see less and less of this as he establishes a successful record here. Above all else Butch is an expert at politician speak. Say nothing to incriminate yourself, keep everything moving on a positive direction. If I had to guess he overcompensates because he knows he isn't the most articulate guy.
 
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615vols said:
And lanes carries were meaningful snaps, not just garbage time. If you don't believe it, you can look up box scores and play by plays and see exactly when lane got his carries troll.
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I already asked you since you wear a T on your shirt. This is how your replied.
 
#73
#73
I'm shocked at the number of people entertaining this guy. Troll 100%. I don't think I've ever called one out before, but this one is blatantly obvious.
 
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gogators13 said:
And nothing wrong with it... Just a different style for the SEC...
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With all due respect, you still haven't answered the original question. In requesting our opinions on this topic, you have not articulated with any degree of specificity what elements of Butch's oratorical style you consider to be "different." Would you be so kind as to outline those features by which you are particularly struck?
 
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