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Smokefatty said:
Kiffin's class is not even in my numbers (which you've conveniently overlooked) you blithering moron. Also, I have never pointed to the rankings as proof that we don't have talent. Instead, I take the novel approach of looking at the product on the field. You brought rankings into the discussion and havent bothered to account for any variables. Your sole evaluation of talent is based upon what some "expert" at Rivals thinks. Your only response to the valid point that we have lost MORE players to attrition than others is that other teams lose players too. No ****, genius. I'm saying we've lost disproportionately more players. You are clearly mentally incompetent so I'm not going to continue this discussion, but I would like to point out that we both think we've found the right man for the job. The only difference is you think he's already loaded up with SEC championship talent and I think it will take Butch a year or two to get there. Try using your expansive research skills and look at my post history. I'm far from a Negavol, I just recognize that Kiffin and Dooley have put us into quite a hole.
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You're backpedaling. You have no tangible, verifiable facts to back up your pessimistic opinion. You are trying to overcome facts with your twisted speculation. Trying to disqualify the FACT that Tennessee has out-recruited Oregon 3 out of the last 5yrs (despite Dooley's inability to coach) is a losing proposition....all day. Every day. And twice on Sunday.

Recruiting rankings do indeed show some measure of proof of that a program is bringing in enough talent to compete. You're choosing to ignore those measurements and ignore the obvious fact that coaching is equally important.

If you don't have BOTH, then BOTH suffer. I realize, to you, this is like studying Calculus 3 after a few bong hits. But, you got owned by the facts...so just man-up (well, that's probably asking too much) and take it.

Dooley was a lame coach (just like you're a lame poster). Kelly was/is a great coach...but both had/have about an equal amount of talent overall. Not at every position, dipstick, but overall.
 
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#130
#130
Smokefatty said:
Haha, so true. Some people get on here with no intention of having a reasonable debate. I guess it's for entertainment purposes.
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You're the one trying to pawn off your opinion as fact, when you have nothing to support it. How is that reasonable? You're trying to say that Butch is starting off woefully short on talent. But the FACTS don't make that case. Battered wives, like yourself just can't seem to understand that Dooley had enough talent to challenge for the SEC East, last year. Talent isn't what's missing. It was coaching. The statistics bare that out.

Sunseri has NEVER been a coordinator at a major D1 program. He's been a career position coach. To compound matters, Both he and Dooley make the bondhead move to switch to a 3-4 defense, with 4-3 personnel...in a Make-or-Break season. You just don't do that, and expect to win!

80% of Dooley's staff jumped ship before last season. What does that tell you...about their confidence in his ability to succeed as a HC in the SEC? If Dooley had a winning record as a HC coming into this job, they may well have stayed put. But nothing in his entire coaching career would lead them to believe he could get it done.

So, despite this program faring pretty well on the recruiting trail, ALL evidence shows that it was an ineptitude in coaching that led to the past results...not because a lack of talent. This offense was the 2nd most prolific squad in the SEC. That says something.
 
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