CFP Brackets? - "Not so fast"

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After sleeping on last night's CFP rankings, I woke up feeling a little better about our chances of hosting a playoff game. #9 Tennessee at #8 THE Ohio State? In the words of coach Corso ... "Not so fast". I really think the committee was positioning for Sunday's final bracket. I think they are counting on one or two teams to drop significantly after the Championship games. I can't see that they would want the possibility of an Oregon / OSU rematch in round two at an all Big10 Rose Bowl. I think OSU and us may move up one or two spots on Sunday. No matter what anyone says, TV and money drive everything in sports including the CFP rankings; and looking at last night's brackets I don't see those things being maxed out. Maybe I'm just being too hopeful, but we'll see on Sunday. Let's hope for the right results in the championship games, be happen we're in either way, and then go win.
 
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Yeah and on the other side a possible UGA/Texas 3rd matchup in the second round. You got to think they'll tweek a few of these games after the championship games saturday. If not then this committee should be dissolved and something else needs to take its place. It's shat.
 
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maryvillenative said:
After sleeping on last night's CFP rankings, I woke up feeling a little better about our chances of hosting a playoff game. #9 Tennessee at #8 THE Ohio State? In the words of coach Corso ... "Not so fast". I really think the committee was positioning for Sunday's final bracket. I think they are counting on one or two teams to drop significantly after the Championship games. I can't see that they would want the possibility of an Oregon / OSU rematch in round two at an all Big10 Rose Bowl. I think OSU and us may move up one or two spots on Sunday. No matter what anyone says, TV and money drive everything in sports including the CFP rankings; and looking at last night's brackets I don't see those things being maxed out. Maybe I'm just being too hopeful, but we'll see on Sunday. Let's hope for the right results in the championship games, be happen we're in either way, and then go win.
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People talking about ratings are just ignorant....why the F would Jim Grobe care about TV ratings? Why would any committee member care about TV ratings?
 
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Maybe it’s BVS on my part, but I have a feeling we are “the floor” when it comes to other team’s dropping. Meaning teams that lose in the Championship games can and will drop, but just not below us. So it will come down to ”who gets to host us” depending upon how the games go. I think if PSU loses at all, they drop below OSU based on a head to head loss and a “worse loss to Oregon” (you can’t lose “better” than a one point loss on their home field).

I hope I’m wrong but when it comes to “committees” making these decisions, the only constant is the shafting when it comes to us……
 
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maryvillenative said:
After sleeping on last night's CFP rankings, I woke up feeling a little better about our chances of hosting a playoff game. #9 Tennessee at #8 THE Ohio State? In the words of coach Corso ... "Not so fast". I really think the committee was positioning for Sunday's final bracket. I think they are counting on one or two teams to drop significantly after the Championship games. I can't see that they would want the possibility of an Oregon / OSU rematch in round two at an all Big10 Rose Bowl. I think OSU and us may move up one or two spots on Sunday. No matter what anyone says, TV and money drive everything in sports including the CFP rankings; and looking at last night's brackets I don't see those things being maxed out. Maybe I'm just being too hopeful, but we'll see on Sunday. Let's hope for the right results in the championship games, be happen we're in either way, and then go win.
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Tennessee needs Georgia and SMU to lose in order to have a shot at moving up. I don't think a Penn State loss changes Tennessee's seeding but just reorders the teams in front of them a bit. If SMU loses, that makes Clemson the automatic qualifier and knocks Alabama likely out of the playoff. If Arizona State loses, it probably doesn't affect the playoff rankings at all except at the 12 seed. If Georgia loses badly, they will definitely drop since they beat Texas earlier in the year and it is the game that is propping them up at the moment. I don't believe Penn State will drop lower than Ohio State unless they lose badly because that is Ohio State's only real win. I am afraid that no much changes for Tennessee outside of several lopsided losses which probably isn't going to happen
 
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Maybe it’s BVS on my part, but I have a feeling we are “the floor” when it comes to other team’s dropping. Meaning teams that lose in the Championship games can and will drop, but just not below us. So it will come down to ”who gets to host us” depending upon how the games go. I think if PSU loses at all, they drop below OSU based on a head to head loss and a “worse lost Oregon” (you can’t lose “better” than a one point loss on their home field).

I hope I’m wrong but when it comes to “committees” making these decisions, the only constant is the shafting when it comes to us……
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Penn State dropping below us is about the only path i see. UGA wins Texas will just swap with them although they wouldn't have a top 25 win. Brand Bias at play again.
 
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Tenacjim said:
Maybe it’s BVS on my part, but I have a feeling we are “the floor” when it comes to other team’s dropping. Meaning teams that lose in the Championship games can and will drop, but just not below us. So it will come down to ”who gets to host us” depending upon how the games go. I think if PSU loses at all, they drop below OSU based on a head to head loss and a “worse lost Oregon” (you can’t lose “better” than a one point loss on their home field).

I hope I’m wrong but when it comes to “committees” making these decisions, the only constant is the shafting when it comes to us……
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We are getting shafted because of what happened with the NIL decision in Tennessee's lawsuit against the NCAA. It essentially handicapped them as a governing body so this is the only real power they have. We will pay for that decision for decades
 
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What might help us out is that I don't think the committee wants any 1st round rematches. 2nd round rematches are going to be somewhat unavoidable. But if Georgia loses to Texas, the committee might have to decide between not dropping Georgia at all, or dropping them 3 slots to #10. If you only drop them 1 spot then you have a Tennessee/Georgia rematch in Athens. I just don't see how a team can lose a game and not drop at all, especially when it would be a team's 3rd loss. So if they drop Georgia 3 spots, that puts us at #8 hosting #9 Indiana in the 1st round.
 
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I think they are trying to get Ohio State into the 5th seed position since they beat PSU. The question is if PSU loses to Oregon do they drop below Tennessee making them come to Knoxville? I know for a fact they will drop PSU below Ohio State if they lose since they lost at home to Ohio State. The question is do they screw us over again and drop them in front of us making us go on the road.
 
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maryvillenative said:
After sleeping on last night's CFP rankings, I woke up feeling a little better about our chances of hosting a playoff game. #9 Tennessee at #8 THE Ohio State? In the words of coach Corso ... "Not so fast". I really think the committee was positioning for Sunday's final bracket. I think they are counting on one or two teams to drop significantly after the Championship games. I can't see that they would want the possibility of an Oregon / OSU rematch in round two at an all Big10 Rose Bowl. I think OSU and us may move up one or two spots on Sunday. No matter what anyone says, TV and money drive everything in sports including the CFP rankings; and looking at last night's brackets I don't see those things being maxed out. Maybe I'm just being too hopeful, but we'll see on Sunday. Let's hope for the right results in the championship games, be happen we're in either way, and then go win.
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I’m not sure how “they don’t want a former PAC 12 team to play a Big 10 power in the Rose Bowl” is something you could ever conclude.
 
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VolTom1 said:
I think they are trying to get Ohio State into the 5th seed position since they beat PSU. The question is if PSU loses to Oregon do they drop below Tennessee making them come to Knoxville? I know for a fact they will drop PSU below Ohio State if they lose since they lost at home to Ohio State. The question is do they screw us over again and drop them in front of us making us go on the road.
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How is OSU going to jump ND without either playing a game?
 
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landscapingvol said:
We are getting shafted because of what happened with the NIL decision in Tennessee's lawsuit against the NCAA. It essentially handicapped them as a governing body so this is the only real power they have. We will pay for that decision for decades
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We only got shafted (to ourselves) by losing to Arkansas. Can't blame anyone but us.
 
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Cartervol said:
Penn State dropping below us is about the only path i see. UGA wins Texas will just swap with them although they wouldn't have a top 25 win. Brand Bias at play again.
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If UGA loses big, we could jump them. Even though we lost head-to-head, a really bad performance could have them say: “This UGA team is not playing well now and not the same that played Tennessee.” Unlikely, but that’s the 2nd most likely scenario.
 
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If the current bracket stands, in addition to the absolute BS mentioned above regarding matchups these matter also:

Currently only 3 SEC teams make the playoffs, 4 Big10 teams. Despite the fact that the SEC top to bottom can absolutely DRAG the big10, and has....the SEC has won 13 out of the last 18 Chips. The big10 has maybe 3 in that span? Clemson won 2.

Tennessee has the hardest path to the Championship of ANY team in the tournament. Despite being ranked 6th in both polls, we are the 9 seed. Even that is broken though...the 12 seed in a 12 team playoff should have the hardest path. Not us. Road game AT OSU, then have to beat #1 Oregon JUST to make it to the final 4 teams?!? What??? Absolute BS and Sankey better be LIVID. OH, nevermind. Bama is set up to backdoor their way into the playoffs with 3 losses including the beatdown from unranked OK less than 2 weeks ago...and Bama will have an easier path to the Title than UT. All is well for Sankey then.

The sorry Notre Dame team that has only played 2 teams that were ranked in the top 25 when ND played them all season (both ranked like 20-25th)...AND that has THE worst loss of any playoff team getting beat by Northern Illinois AT HOME has a relatively easy run to the Final 4 at least. Its criminal. If the playoffs arent gonna consider strength of schedule, then why play anybody good during the season? Much better to play in a garbage conference like the big12 or ACC and go undefeated nearly every season (like Clemson used to) than to play in the SEC where your conference schedule has a half dozen ranked teams. Who wants to play SC right now? Or even Flarda?? How many current playoff teams would be underdogs to them on a neutral site?
 
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VolTom1 said:
I think they are trying to get Ohio State into the 5th seed position since they beat PSU. The question is if PSU loses to Oregon do they drop below Tennessee making them come to Knoxville? I know for a fact they will drop PSU below Ohio State if they lose since they lost at home to Ohio State. The question is do they screw us over again and drop them in front of us making us go on the road.
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Yes I think its more probable that O. St moves up a spot or 2 than TN. We still could get a better 1st rd match up but would still have the Oregon 2nd rd.
 
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He (Manuel) stated last night that those teams NOT playing in a conference championship game would NOT change due to those teams having no more data points to change their standings and the bracket had Oh Ho Ho State hosting. I took that to mean no change for us and Ohio State land grant university would host.... but who knows.... i sure don't.
 
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I can see the seedings change simply based on repetitive matchups. I don't see OSU being the 8 seed of Oregon is the 1 seed or UGA & Texas in a potential round 2 match up.

To "balance" it out, the seedings may not reflect the rankings even more than now.
 
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