CFP Brackets? - "Not so fast"

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At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if in next week’s final bracket Alabama somehow ends up with a first round bye and we end up the first team out.
 
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VolTom1 said:
I think they are trying to get Ohio State into the 5th seed position since they beat PSU. The question is if PSU loses to Oregon do they drop below Tennessee making them come to Knoxville? I know for a fact they will drop PSU below Ohio State if they lose since they lost at home to Ohio State. The question is do they screw us over again and drop them in front of us making us go on the road.
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No doubt. They were definitely planning on OSU moving up, because they don't want their(Big10 bias committee) two best teams to meet in round two....nope. As far as PSU dropping below us, they sure wouldn't have a resume win. Also, the committee says OSU and UT were very close, although should have been the other way around. If PSU drops below OSU, they have to drop below UT also.
 
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GulfCoasterVol said:
He (Manuel) stated last night that those teams NOT playing in a conference championship game would NOT change due to those teams having no more data points to change their standings and the bracket had Oh Ho Ho State hosting. I took that to mean no change for us and Ohio State land grant university would host.... but who knows.... i sure don't.
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That means we cannot jump OSU but we canove up if Georgia moves down. Teams playing can move
 
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landscapingvol said:
Tennessee needs Georgia and SMU to lose in order to have a shot at moving up. I don't think a Penn State loss changes Tennessee's seeding but just reorders the teams in front of them a bit. If SMU loses, that makes Clemson the automatic qualifier and knocks Alabama likely out of the playoff. If Arizona State loses, it probably doesn't affect the playoff rankings at all except at the 12 seed. If Georgia loses badly, they will definitely drop since they beat Texas earlier in the year and it is the game that is propping them up at the moment. I don't believe Penn State will drop lower than Ohio State unless they lose badly because that is Ohio State's only real win. I am afraid that no much changes for Tennessee outside of several lopsided losses which probably isn't going to happen
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How does SMU losing help us?
 
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Serious question…
Will the CFP rank a 3-loss SEC team higher than a 1-loss B10 team?

If so, pack your warmest clothes. If not, Georgia should be 10 behind Indiana on Sunday if they don’t win.

… also, no one is getting “blown out” Saturday. We are Texas and Oregon fans though for sure, as PSU and UGA are the only teams in front of us that can drop below us.
 
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At this rate and the way the committee has no accountability or metric for whatever they are doing, I’m just waiting for them to have bama jump us in the seeding lol I’m kidding of course. IF there is/was a way they would have done it, no doubt in my mind they would have.
I also think the powers that be love the prospect of bama having an easy path thru the playoffs. I think the last projections I seen was Indiana or ND who would have no less than 4 losses in the SEC hosting a team (bama) with no business even in the playoffs.

And don’t even get me started on who bama would pull in the second round if the projections stand. Tennessee has far and away the hardest path to the NC game as it stands that’s just my opinion.

GO VOLS AND SHOCK THE WORLD AND MAKE THE COMMITTEE AND ESPN EAT CROW!
 
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Section KK said:
Serious question…
Will the CFP rank a 3-loss SEC team higher than a 1-loss B10 team?

If so, pack your warmest clothes. If not, Georgia should be 10 behind Indiana on Sunday if they don’t win.

… also, no one is getting “blown out” Saturday. We are Texas and Oregon fans though for sure, as PSU and UGA are the only teams in front of us that can drop below us.
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I don’t see any team dropping below us even if they get blown out by 50.
The committee and talking heads do not want UT even in the playoffs evident by the complete disrespect shown all season to our beloved VOLS.
I think UT has hit their peak in seeding at 9 since somehow OSU remained ahead of us in seeding even tho most teams fell off the cliff after loss.
The committee has already showed their true colors and even ignore the fact UT is ahead of Ohio state in the AP and two spots ahead of them in the coaches poll.
And explain how UT dropped after or was leaped frogged earlier this season by other teams after an OT win against Florida but after 8 OT AND THE OFFICIALS handing Georgia the win in Athens against a worse team than Florida but remains ahead of UT in polling.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Tennessee needs Georgia and SMU to lose in order to have a shot at moving up. I don't think a Penn State loss changes Tennessee's seeding but just reorders the teams in front of them a bit. If SMU loses, that makes Clemson the automatic qualifier and knocks Alabama likely out of the playoff. If Arizona State loses, it probably doesn't affect the playoff rankings at all except at the 12 seed. If Georgia loses badly, they will definitely drop since they beat Texas earlier in the year and it is the game that is propping them up at the moment. I don't believe Penn State will drop lower than Ohio State unless they lose badly because that is Ohio State's only real win. I am afraid that no much changes for Tennessee outside of several lopsided losses which probably isn't going to happen
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PSU does not have a marquee win, not one. They beat Illinois, they have been in and out of the rankings. If they lose they should drop below OSU since OSU beat them earlier in the season.
 
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Volwonder1 said:
I don’t see any team dropping below us even if they get blown out by 50.
The committee and talking heads do not want UT even in the playoffs evident by the complete disrespect shown all season to our beloved VOLS.
I think UT has hit their peak in seeding at 9 since somehow OSU remained ahead of us in seeding even tho most teams fell off the cliff after loss.
The committee has already showed their true colors and even ignore the fact UT is ahead of Ohio state in the AP and two spots ahead of them in the coaches poll.
And explain how UT dropped after or was leaped frogged earlier this season by other teams after an OT win against Florida but after 8 OT AND THE OFFICIALS handing Georgia the win in Athens against a worse team than Florida but remains ahead of UT in polling.
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I've been screaming about that crap for weeks but until now there's not been one mention of that massive screw job alongside Georgia's "12th" man strategy used against Tennessee and Georgia Tech a few weeks ago inorder to secure wins for a **** show of a Georgia team which are a consistently inconsistent as Alabama is.... something really needs to be done to ensure fair and unbiased ******** goings-on from within the playoff committee which are also as inconsistent as their 2 favorite sec teams
 
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landscapingvol said:
We are getting shafted because of what happened with the NIL decision in Tennessee's lawsuit against the NCAA. It essentially handicapped them as a governing body so this is the only real power they have. We will pay for that decision for decades
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Um. The CFP is not the NCAA.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
People talking about ratings are just ignorant....why the F would Jim Grobe care about TV ratings? Why would any committee member care about TV ratings?
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Whether or not the reason is obvious, just being human and a sports fan in todays world, they will think about match ups to a certain extent. They may not admit it, but no doubt will.

However, pretending Bama in with three losses isnt a ratings thing, is kind of embarassing isn't it?
 
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GulfCoasterVol said:
He (Manuel) stated last night that those teams NOT playing in a conference championship game would NOT change due to those teams having no more data points to change their standings and the bracket had Oh Ho Ho State hosting. I took that to mean no change for us and Ohio State land grant university would host.... but who knows.... i sure don't.
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The "no change" means if you arent playing this weekend, you arent jumping another team that isnt playing this weekend. It also means if you ARE playing this weekend, you can move in either direction.
For example, lets say a team ranked ahead of us gets trounced this weekend (ranked, not seeded) they could drop below us and thus sliding everyone now in front of them up a spot in the rankings, which would then cause a new seeding and ..voila, the Vols are hosting.

Not saying it will happen but it could.
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Whether or not the reason is obvious, just being human and a sports fan in todays world, they will think about match ups to a certain extent. They may not admit it, but no doubt will.

However, pretending Bama in with three losses isnt a ratings thing, is kind of embarassing isn't it?
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maryvillenative said:
After sleeping on last night's CFP rankings, I woke up feeling a little better about our chances of hosting a playoff game. #9 Tennessee at #8 THE Ohio State? In the words of coach Corso ... "Not so fast". I really think the committee was positioning for Sunday's final bracket. I think they are counting on one or two teams to drop significantly after the Championship games. I can't see that they would want the possibility of an Oregon / OSU rematch in round two at an all Big10 Rose Bowl. I think OSU and us may move up one or two spots on Sunday. No matter what anyone says, TV and money drive everything in sports including the CFP rankings; and looking at last night's brackets I don't see those things being maxed out. Maybe I'm just being too hopeful, but we'll see on Sunday. Let's hope for the right results in the championship games, be happen we're in either way, and then go win.
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I DO NOT WANT TO PLAY GA AGAIN UNTIL NEXT YEAR!!!
 
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90 Vol said:
Thinking that the committee doesn't care about money or TV ratings is just naive.
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I keep seeing this argument.

Does the committee get paid more for tv ratings? Maybe we have a conflict of interest. What you’re saying is that bribery is probably involved.
 
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landscapingvol said:
We are getting shafted because of what happened with the NIL decision in Tennessee's lawsuit against the NCAA. It essentially handicapped them as a governing body so this is the only real power they have. We will pay for that decision for decades
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The NCAA doesn’t even manage the playoffs or the bowls for that matter.
 
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landscapingvol said:
We are getting shafted because of what happened with the NIL decision in Tennessee's lawsuit against the NCAA. It essentially handicapped them as a governing body so this is the only real power they have. We will pay for that decision for decades
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Winning the dumbest poster prize again today.
 
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GulfCoasterVol said:
He (Manuel) stated last night that those teams NOT playing in a conference championship game would NOT change due to those teams having no more data points to change their standings and the bracket had Oh Ho Ho State hosting. I took that to mean no change for us and Ohio State land grant university would host.... but who knows.... i sure don't.
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