Chaney and Pitman to UGA

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landscapingvol said:
Somebody needs to tell Vanderbilt they were 9-4 in 2011 and 2010, and now it has become clear. Chaney will be a great OC if he has a future NFL hall of fame qb, a dominating o-line, 2 stud rb's, a great wr corp, a coach who likes him, everyone is 100% healthy, and the other team has no pulse on defense. It makes sense to me.
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Kinda like DeBord? You keep throwing out stats without acknowledging that Bray and Hunter didn't play in a lot of those games. If you expect a backup true FR, QB to put up the same numbers as your starter than you are truly as dumb as you've made yourself look in this thread.

I'm done with the topic. Chaney is a solid OC. No one is saying he's a magic wizard as an OC but to act like he's garbage is asinine. Smart could've done a lot worse.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
And you blast anyone that's not on staff now, as if no one else is successful at their profession.

It was well known that Bray had strep throat the week of the UK game and it was debated whether or not Worley should have started/played.
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So Chaney has terrible judgement?
 
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Lol at UGA. They fire CMR, offer him an admin job. He says no thanks and goes to Miami. They hire Kirby but he wants to win a NC, so he stays on as DC at Bama. They fire Pruitt who is then hired immediately by Saban. UGA then hires a guy who couldn't cut it at two SEC jobs. Who is coaching UGA in the bowl game? The secretary? On top of all that, another UGA player got arrested for weed.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Lol at UGA. They fire CMR, offer him an admin job. He says no thanks and goes to Miami. They hire Kirby but he wants to win a NC, so he stays on as DC at Bama. They fire Pruitt who is then hired immediately by Saban. UGA then hires a guy who couldn't cut it at two SEC jobs. Who is coaching UGA in the bowl game? The secretary? On top of all that, another UGA player got arrested for weed.
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A bad day for UGA is a good day for UT. :clapping:
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Kinda like DeBord? You keep throwing out stats without acknowledging that Bray and Hunter didn't play in a lot of those games. If you expect a backup true FR, QB to put up the same numbers as your starter than you are truly as dumb as you've made yourself look in this thread.

I'm done with the topic. Chaney is a solid OC. No one is saying he's a magic wizard as an OC but to act like he's garbage is asinine. Smart could've done a lot worse.
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Please point to a valid point you have made at any time during your idiotic ramblings. But yes, keep pretending you have proven your argument that he has had better results than Debord. I proved you wrong on average recruit rankings, game by game results over a three year period, and total offensive states year by year. You make more excuses than Cubs fans. He was such a good OC that Kiffin took him to USC with him, and Arky replaced him. We all know you are like a scorned lover when it comes to CBJ.
 
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Never said he was garbage, you made the assertion over and over he is better than Debord and that you would rather have him over Debord. I would rather not have a MAC offense that couldn't run consistently against and SEC defense. I merely proved how wrong you are by facts and statistics. He was probably their 3rd or 4th choice, nothing to get too excited about but you apparently have a huge chub pertaining to anything against CBJ.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Please point to a valid point you have made at any time during your idiotic ramblings. But yes, keep pretending you have proven your argument that he has had better results than Debord. I proved you wrong on average recruit rankings, game by game results over a three year period, and total offensive states year by year. You make more excuses than Cubs fans. He was such a good OC that Kiffin took him to USC with him, and Arky replaced him. We all know you are like a scorned lover when it comes to CBJ.
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The entire meat of the 2011 season was without Bray and Hunter, which skews stats yet you use them.

The rankings are meaningless if the talent accumulated isn't still on the roster or never made it on the roster.

DeBord had 4 games we couldn't crack over 360 yards of offense and 1 we couldn't crack 250. Rushing stats for DeBord vs Chaney are meaningless; we avg 47 rush attempts per game under DeBord, we avg 32 attempts under Chaney. One would expect more rushing yards out of DeBord, just the same as one would expect more passing yards under Chaney, which is what we saw.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Never said he was garbage, you made the assertion over and over he is better than Debord and that you would rather have him over Debord. I would rather not have a MAC offense that couldn't run consistently against and SEC defense. I merely proved how wrong you are by facts and statistics. He was probably their 3rd or 4th choice, nothing to get too excited about but you apparently have a huge chub pertaining to anything against CBJ.
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Show me a post where I said I wanted him over DeBord or that he's better. I defended him as a good hire for UGA. You picked out the good games for DeBord and bad games for Chaney while failing to acknowledge DeBords bad games. Just as you accused me of picking out the good games for Chaney and withholding his bad games.

Your reading comprehension and deciphering skills are really struggling if you got the above ideas from my posts.

Chaney is very likely a top 5 OC in this league. Combine that with top 5 SEC roster and UGA will remain a contender in the East.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Show me a post where I said I wanted him over DeBord or that he's better. I defended him as a good hire for UGA. You picked out the good games for DeBord and bad games for Chaney while failing to acknowledge DeBords bad games. Just as you accused me of picking out the good games for Chaney and withholding his bad games.

Your reading comprehension and deciphering skills are really struggling if you got the above ideas from my posts.

Chaney is very likely a top 5 OC in this league. Combine that with top 5 SEC roster and UGA will remain a contender in the East.
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"Top 5 OC in this league" again based off of what other than your feelings? For a guy that doesn't think Chaney is better you sure do enjoy criticizing Debord every chance you get and no Debord has never had a net total of negative rushing yards in a game twice while he was here. Please point to a game where posted anywhere near those dreadful totals. The only game where UT even remotely struggled was against Oklahoma but still managed to score 24 points, not to mention they are in the CFB playoff but that doesn't fit your agenda. Chaney's offenses routinely struggled against SEC teams, not just the good ones.
 
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landscapingvol said:
"Top 5 OC in this league" again based off of what other than your feelings? For a guy that doesn't think Chaney is better you sure do enjoy criticizing Debord every chance you get and no Debord has never had a net total of negative rushing yards in a game twice while he was here. Please point to a game where posted anywhere near those dreadful totals. The only game where UT even remotely struggled was against Oklahoma but still managed to score 24 points, not to mention they are in the CFB playoff but that doesn't fit your agenda. Chaney's offenses routinely struggled against SEC teams, not just the good ones.
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2010 we played with Matt Simms a majority of the year, half of 2011 was played with Matt Simms/Worley when Bray went down. When Bray played the offensive yardage output was significantly more than the other 2. You act as if that has no impact on the stats.

Why do you keep mentioning rushing yards as if that's the only form of offense? Under Chaney we threw for more yards per game than any OC under Jones. Does that make him a better OC? No, it makes him a different type of OC. One produces better passing stats and one produces better rushing stats.

Based on personnel and offensive philosophy right now, DeBord is better for this UT team. Based on personnel and offensive philosophy, Chaney was better for the 2011-12 UT teams.

Pointing out game stats under Chaney and game stats under DeBord isn't blasting; its presenting facts. I've not once in this thread said DeBord is bad. You have in regards to Chaney.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Yeah Chaney did wonders here and at Arkansas, which is precisely why he ended up at Pitt. Let's look at reality for a moment:
2015 UT offense #50 overall; 5th in SEC 423 ypg 34 ppg
2012 UT offense #35 overall; 3rd in SEC 476 ypg 36 ppg

2015 Rushing #24 overall; 2nd in SEC
2012 Rushing #72 overall; 9th in SEC

We all know what the UT offense was in 2012, throw it all over the field and rack up huge numbers agains lousy teams. We could not run the ball and Bray played when he wanted to. The 2015 offense has showed time and again that it can move the ball on good defenses. I will pass on the throw it 50 times a game and hope we can run it offense that will never work at UGA and it didn't work at Arkansas. By the way, the sign of a good oline is being able to run the ball and the best rushing year under Chaney was 52nd in the NCAA which was 2009, Kiffin ran the offense then. But let's keep pretending CBJ doesn't know what he is doing and neither does Debord.

2010 Rushing 102nd overall
2011 Rushing 116th overall
2012 Rushing 72nd overall
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First sentence. One could say if DeBord did wonders why was he in an administrative role for the last 3 years and out of coaching?
 
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ReaderVol said:
Chaney is a very good OC. But Pittman is a GREAT Oline coach.
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Yeah and neither one of them play. Coaching is who you have and not always the coach. Neither showed much here and boy Pitt was a powerhouse this yr. Pittman inherited pretty good talent at Arkansas
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
First sentence. One could say if DeBord did wonders why was he in an administrative role for the last 3 years and out of coaching?
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Based off of his lone year here, I would say that Debord chose to take a break from football and I believe him when he said he had numerous opportunities to get back into coaching. He has done an outstanding job, much better than Bajakian and Chaney imo. People forget this oline has very little experience and has to rely on a lot of younger players and being able to run the ball is the best way to judge an effective o-line.
 
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Do I think Debord is the next coming of David Cutcliff? No, I do not but he gets a lot of flack. You cannot win in the SEC if you cannot run the ball consistently.
 
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PYSCHO said:
Yeah and neither one of them play. Coaching is who you have and not always the coach. Neither showed much here and boy Pitt was a powerhouse this yr. Pittman inherited pretty good talent at Arkansas
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Pittman turned our Oline from one of the worst to one of the best in one season. So, try again.
 
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