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#1
The new surface at Bristol sucks. They need to change it back. I miss the bump and run. I miss drivers getting so mad they would fight. The new surface makes for many long green runs and few cautions. This is not what made Bristol great. Bristol was great because it was the only track that made drivers get out and throw a punch or their helmet at someone. I think many fans agree with me judging by Sunday's low attendance. A few years ago Bristol tickets were one of the hardest tickets to come by, now half the seats are empty. I hope NASCAR changes the surface back to how it used to be to get rid of the progressive banking, but I have a feeling it will just remain another sad example of how NASCAR is ruining itself.
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#4
#4
I don't care about the style, but the tire wear is what killed the racing Sunday. There was no passing until about 50 laps into a run. However, after that, the racing was not bad at all.
 
#5
#5
it has nothing to do with a specific track. attendance is down at all of them.
 
#8
#8
While I actually enjoyed some of the green flag racing at Bristol Sunday, I would like for them to try and get back towards the old surface if possible. There's enough wide, fast places out there that make you rely on your car. We need a few races a year where they bump, grind, and lean on each other for position.
 
#9
#9
While I actually enjoyed some of the green flag racing at Bristol Sunday, I would like for them to try and get back towards the old surface if possible. There's enough wide, fast places out there that make you rely on your car. We need a few races a year where they bump, grind, and lean on each other for position.


I just missed the old days. I remember when it was 1 line, and if you got up high, you got shuffled way back.

It was a simple time, things were good.

I do find it funny that the teams and the drivers are moaning about any potential changes. I understand their concerns but there are only 43 of them and Bristol has 160k seats to fill. So the fan input has to weigh heavily.

There was some good racing on Sunday, but it just wasn't the same.
 
#10
#10
Speedway Motorsports, Inc., CEO Bruton Smith said yesterday that he is moving ahead with plans to return Bristol Motor Speedway to its previous configuration. Speaking on SiriusXM NASCAR Radio's The Late Shift with Buddy Baker and Jim Noble, Smith said feedback from fans has been overwhelmingly in favor of changing the legendary speedway's layout. "I'd say it's about 75% from the race fans that they'd like to see us put it back the way it was five years ago," he said. Smith said he has already consulted with engineers about making the necessary changes. "It will absolutely still be concrete," he said, "but we will (redo) the profiling. We have on paper exactly the way the track was before we came in and redid it. We're going to have all the elevations, the ingress and egress as it was before we completely redid it. We will here again offer race fans (the track) the way it was. It's not a major change that we did," insisted Smith. "We took up all the old concrete that was breaking up and causing a lot of problems. We completely redid the speedway, and fans got the idea that it's not the same. I guess it's not the same, since they told us that, and the race fan is always right. When the race fans speak, you listen. And that's what we're doing now." The SMI owner said the changes will be made before the Aug. 25 Sprint Cup Series night race. "You have a good contractor, your plans, your blueprints and a million dollars, and you just go ahead and do it. I've got engineers working on this as we speak. I have not taken this up with NASCAR yet, but that's what we will do," Smith said. "Once we're ready, we'll do it. There will be a press announcement of exactly what we're doing. I want it to be exactly correct -- the way these fans perceive it -- and I want to see 165,000 fans scrambling for tickets the way they have in the past."
 
#12
#12
Well it's concrete now. I think the major factor is the variety of our weather here (most years). We have typically blisteringly hot summers and fairly cold winters. Asphalt, in those elements, and combined with the high speeds the cars race on the track would make the asphalt wear out much quicker than concrete does. And Goodyear, probably at the direction of NASCAR, makes those frickin tires so hard anymore you could just about run all 500 laps on the same set and them not fall off more than a second.

I can't list all of the ways to fix NASCAR but the two main one's IMO are:

1. Make Goodyear make softer tires. This will make strategy come into play much more over the course of the race. And gone will be just driving the car wide open the whole run. Tire conservation is something that some of these guys have never really had to practice much of.

2. Slow the cars down on all tracks. If they were running mid 170s like they were at Charlotte back in 1988 with tires that fell off you would see much more side-by-side racing in the Cup series. Guys can't race door to door much anymore due to the fact of the speeds they are having to carry through the turns and with the cars being so aero sensitive when side by side. Slowing them down and softening up the tires would instantly produce quite a bit more side by side racing. I know some would rather see faster speeds but if it comes down to it give me more door to door action than speed any day of the week.

And I'll throw my .02 in about the Bristol reconfiguration. Sure, the "racing" was much better with the modifications that were made. But the "action, show, excitement, etc" will be much better with the track going back to the way it used to be. I bet the media department is already in full swing pulling out tapes of the old races for commercials and print media. I'm sure the catchphrase will be, "Bristol, Racing the Way it Used to be AGAIN, and Racing the way YOU like it."
 
#13
#13
I don't think asphalt is necessarily less resistent to temperature differences than cement concrete. I was just curious what the appeal was to nascar tracks, if it affected the racing, or if it was purely a longer life surface.
 
#14
#14
This is good news, but is just $1 million enough to change the track back? I don't think it is.
 
#15
#15
I'm glad to hear they're trying to change it back. Bring back the bump-and-run Bristol.
 
#17
#17
After his fake sounding interviews after the Daytona 500 I don't take much stock in what comes out of Greg Biffle's mouth.
 
#18
#18
Keselowski sure sounds defensive in that last article.
 
#19
#19
I will probably get flamed for this, but i like the racing on the current track. Outside of the first and the last 50 laps on the old track it was simply follow the leader for 400 laps. My wife has actually fallen asleep at a race....sitting on the 3rd row. At least now there are multiple race lines that lead to competitive racing for the whole race. I heard Steve Addington on the radio last night talking about how most of the teams and drivers like the newer configuration and that Bruton should leave it alone. If anything just make the tires give up sooner.
 
#21
#21
I will probably get flamed for this, but i like the racing on the current track. Outside of the first and the last 50 laps on the old track it was simply follow the leader for 400 laps. My wife has actually fallen asleep at a race....sitting on the 3rd row. At least now there are multiple race lines that lead to competitive racing for the whole race. I heard Steve Addington on the radio last night talking about how most of the teams and drivers like the newer configuration and that Bruton should leave it alone. If anything just make the tires give up sooner.

the above post represents the things the vast majority of NASCAR fans are too stupid to realize.
 
#24
#24
I think he was saying that there is some truth to what you said but most fans aren't smart enough to see it. Not sure though. I've been wrong before. I think.:unsure:
 
#25
#25
I like that they are changing it back. I just was not impressed with the racing at this years food City 500. Call me simple but I just liked it the way it was.
 

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