Chavis vs. UNC

[LSU-SIU]

If Chavis hadn't brought three, dropped eight, and been soft along the sidelines on that last drive, then you wouldn't have been in a position where one good throw on the last two plays would have cost you the game. Regardless of how badly your offense played in the 2nd half. But that's how he ALWAYS PLAYS IT. As I said, Chavis should be in the dictionary next to "definition of insanity."

It's ludicrous that an LSU fan would have amnesia about the 2006 Tennessee game. Remember how all Russell had to do was dunk it down the field twelve yards at a time until he was in position to win? That's your guy now.

It was already over for the D at that point, even Peterson was getting outplayed.

What you are doing is bottling all your hatred for the guy and then putting it in this game, sorry that is not what happened in this game. Now last year, that is what happened and I would agree with you... but this game didn't get this way because of the D, I am sorry you watched a different game than me.

As far as Russell, great physical-type guy, I always liked Flynn.... Russell blew it in 2006... because to me that was the best team LSU has ever had and he blew that year a few times. Great stats but he was not a winner to me, but he did do everything the team asked of him... for that I have no problem with the guy. After that he was the Raiders problem.

 

[Vercingetorix]

I'm not sure whether to highlight this:

What you are doing is bottling all your hatred for the guy and then putting it in this game,

Or this:

Now last year, that is what happened and I would agree with you... but this game didn't get this way because of the D, I am sorry you watched a different game than me.

All my "hatred for the guy"in one throwaway game between two teams I don't care about? Dude, do you not get that Tennessee fans watched the same BS from Chavis defenses for a decade and a half? I really could give a crap about tonight's game. I just think it's funny that it's the same old predictable shiat and now it's somebody else's problem. LSU's had a great program ever since Saban rebuilt it, but it's going to be interesting to see how you guys deal with the Four Million Dollar Hat and Chavis's Mustang Defense.

How could you have "agreed last year" but not tonight? THIS IS WHAT CHAVIS ALWAYS DOES IN TIGHT GAMES. He turtles up and plays soft. Just because you won the game tonight because the UNC QB threw to the wrong shoulder doesn't mean it wasn't, as always, a loser's strategy.

 

[BigPapaVol]

All you Vols in denial. Only guy here that knows anything is the lame ass troll here to teach us football. Could you all not just see that the problem was that the D was gassed from being on the field too much and playing hyper-aggressive football.

I mean damn, dude told you guys 57 times the exact rundown and even prompted you to read his genius 47 other times so you would better understand what you saw. Forget that you were likely more objective in your approach and had no dog in the fight. Bro said it was about dead legs at the end, so it just was.
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[kptvol]

Chavis actually did blitz that one time late in the fourth and I think the CB knocked the football out from the QB. Still, he went to his soft coverage more often than not.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Chavis actually did blitz that one time late in the fourth and I think the CB knocked the football out from the QB. Still, he went to his soft coverage more often than not.

Let the TE destroy us was the script. He jst reheated the one from his last UCLA game.
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[kptvol]

Let the TE destroy us was the script. He jst reheated the one from his last UCLA game.
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He also had a nice tendency to not bother covering whatever WR already has 20 catches. Or forget that QBs can cross the line of scrimmage.

Since he got burned for a 97 yard TD this game, I imagine the safeties will practice the 60 yard cushion this week.

 

[MDBJJC]

don't miss the 3rd and Chavis.

I do have a lot of respect for Chief. He was a great coach at times.

 

[iuvol2012]

Aren't you glad we don't have third and Chavis anymore? Thought he was a great coach, but good grief, watching all of those leads disappear was maddening.

 

[strongtower]

from watching this 4th quarter of LSU vs UNC, it appears "3rd and Chavis" is alive and well in Baton Rouge....I cant remember the number of times ive gotten frustrated from watching him play soft coverage in the 4th quarter and the lead only to watch him blow it in the end....deja vu is setting in watching this game right now

opcorn:

Yeah I agree I remember us being way up on UK a few years ago and he started playing that soft D and we had to win on what 4-5 over times. man i was pissed

 

[kptvol]

don't miss the 3rd and Chavis.

I do have a lot of respect for Chief. He was a great coach at times.

He's made some comments over the years that are so stupid it's hard to believe he's been an SEC caliber linebacker, position coach, and coordinator.

 

[strongtower]

It was the lack of offense not the defense guys.

Dude don't even try that, UNC has so many players suspended plus all of the NCAA distractions going on you guys should of romped them.

 

[strongtower]

My god read, I said I am not a Chavis fan but this was not a D issue... the offense should have possessed the ball at least 10 minutes more of the clock.

man your up 30-10 and you say your d was not the problem lol:

 

[strongtower]

Chavis has a way of making his defenses look done at the end of close games. You sound like a guy with a new girlfriend telling all the guys that used to nail her that she's different this time.

We aren't retards. We've watched Chavis's shiat for FIFTEEN YEARS. Your defense will look great until the game is on the line, and then they will fold up like a cheap map. This is what he does.

:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove:lol:

 

[arTfuldodger]

Hahaha. Its so true.
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[cotton]

I do read, but you aren't listening to this. It was because of the D. 100% because of the D. I don't care how bad that offense was, Chavis playing prevent defense with a 20 point lead and getting lucky on two final plays within the 10 to escape with a victory is to blame. If you're up 30 to 10 going into the 4th and you almost lose, that's your D's fault. Plain and simple.

That is correct. It was Chavis' fault. He was playing too soft on that '97 yard touchdown pass. He was in prevent when he blitzed DBs multiple times late in the game, including the 4th down sack-fumble that should have sealed it. UNC recovered the onside kick because Chavis had his corners too far from the line, and the tailback fumbled because of the Mustang package.

 

[BigPapaVol]

That is correct. It was Chavis' fault. He was playing too soft on that '97 yard touchdown pass. He was in prevent when he blitzed DBs multiple times late in the game, including the 4th down sack-fumble that should have sealed it. UNC recovered the onside kick because Chavis had his corners too far from the line, and the tailback fumbled because of the Mustang package.

I hear you, but the few blitzes don't help when you're willing to give away first downs. It's a mentality about defense that sucks aggressiveness from everyone. I also guarantee that Miles called this blitzes.
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[cotton]

I hear you, but the few blitzes don't help when you're willing to give away first downs. It's a mentality about defense that sucks aggressiveness from everyone. I also guarantee that Miles called this blitzes.
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I didn't really see it as giving away first downs. I saw a bunch of slants thrown through keyholes and an offense that must have gone home at halftime.

I've seen enough of Chavis over the years to hate deep cushions on the corners and three man rushes, of receivers catching the ball in space and quarterbacks with too much time to throw. That is not what I saw almost lose the game for LSU last night.

 

[TOP]

I didn't really see it as giving away first downs. I saw a bunch of slants thrown through keyholes and an offense that must have gone home at halftime.

I've seen enough of Chavis over the years to hate deep cushions on the corners and three man rushes, of receivers catching the ball in space and quarterbacks with too much time to throw. That is not what I saw almost lose the game for LSU last night.

Just watched the replays on ESPN and all of the throws on the final drive were underneath. The defenders were behind the receiver catching the ball every single time and they were getting like 15-20 yards at a time.

 

[cotton]

Just watched the replays on ESPN and all of the throws on the final drive were underneath. The defenders were behind the receiver catching the ball every single time and they were getting like 15-20 yards at a time.

Is that worse than receivers catching balls behind the defense?

The receivers were tightly covered, and the defense was bringing pressure. There was a misdirection that had the TE running free that looked like a missed assignment, but I didn't see the "lay back and wait for the clock to run out" scheme that seems to be the focus of this discussion.

Where is the criticism of Chavis for playing tight and allowing the 97 yard bomb?

 

[the.one.the.only]

The announcers even said 'i wonder why lsu's DBs are giving UNC's wrs so much cushion.'

that's exactly what happened. The last few drives were absolutely chavis' fault
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[cotton]

The announcers even said 'i wonder why lsu's DBs are giving UNC's wrs so much cushion.'

that's exactly what happened. The last few drives were absolutely chavis' fault
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One drive. There was one TD drive in the second half, and I don't believe it was the result of playing too passively. I'll point again to the close coverage and multiple blitzes undone mainly by some really good execution of the slant pattern.

There was also a long touchdown caused by doing the exact opposite of what this criticism is about. There was a late drive stopped by a fumble/sack on 4th down caused by a blitzing DB. There was a drive stopped by the clock running out at the end of the game.

Is this criticism really about one drive that took 5 minutes off the clock in a 7 minute game?

 

[sjrobert]

it was tight most of the night... all you had to do is listen to the announcers.

Listen to the announcers? Brent Musberger? That guy is still lost in a fog. He fills a position in the announcing booth, nothing more. His analytic skills were always questionable. Joe six-pack, under the viaduct, would make a better analyst.