check this out.

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TENNFOLD1974 said:
And I guess you so-called HARD WORKING folks have entitlements that lazy people don't...right?
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Yes, I'm entitled to a paycheck twice a month.

I'm entitled to my employer's health insurance benefit plan.

I'm entitled to support my daughter and me without government assistance.
 
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truefan said:
Read the post, KB. I said brilliant, in a context of intelligence and using it to form a political strategy that, in the end, works for most everyone. I didn't say it in a context of "best" president.
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Can you please provide proof of his intelligence? Surely there must be proof if you are using this quality to sell us on his brilliance...

BHO's political strategy works, in the long run, for only those people who make a living as power players in the Federal Government. As BHO exacts punitive measures against small and medium sized businesses (the institutions that actually do around 90% of all the hiring and firing in America), more of our middle class, white collar citizens will be left searching for jobs.

As a result of this draining of the middle class, large labor intensive industries will dry up. Construction will drop tremendously, leading to reduced demand in the steel industry. A reduced demand in the steel industry will lead to a reduced demand in coal mining, as well as the rest of the energy market. (Heck, I haven't addressed the continued decline in the automobile industry due to a shrinking middle class).

When these large, labor intensive industries fail, the lower middle and lower classes then find themselves out of jobs. Yes, there is government help: industrial subsidies and social welfare programs. However, these only work as long as the government is able to spend money. As tax revenue dries up (which will most assuredly happen at a much more rapid rate than anything BHO is selling), inflation skyrockets and citizens go hungry.

Again, the only people who might be better off, if BHO had the power to implement everything his philosophy pushes him towards, would be the power players in government and those who are wealthy enough to shelter their money in other markets (even this is a stretch though, since the world is much flatter due to the technological advances of the past fifteen years worldwide economies are vastly more dependent upon worldwide stabilizing forces).

Yet, I will defer to you, Truefan. You have read from BHO's website...
 
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#103
BigPapaVol said:
stealing money is serious and it would be much easier to take it lightly if it weren't about to become reality.
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I understand...I'm just glad I live a simple life so I don't have a lot to lose...so I don't have to stress out.It also helps I don't have children as well.
 
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truefan said:
Or I am just a lot smarter than you. I didn't say I liked everything Clinton did while he was President. I didn't even say I liked him. Even if I did, I could support a strong military and know exactly what I am talking about and not be lying. Not everyone is as narrow minded as you, pard. It doesn't always have to be either a or b. It can be c just as easily. Whether YOU like it or not, he was an effective president. If you disagree, then you really don't have a clue.
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He's brilliant and you hope Obama can be as good as him yet you don't like him? Okay.

He wasn't a bad president if gutting the military to spend money elsewhere is considered "good", which I highly doubt you could agree with since you support a strong military.

He was spineless when it came to foreign affairs.
 
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truefan said:
Or I am just a lot smarter than you.
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Well I'm certain that isn't the case. Seriously, you come out of nowhere every now and then to tell hatvol he's too pompous and then you post crap like this. No one respects you even a little bit. Your opinion is universally regarded as manure. Go away forever. No one will miss you.
 
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#107
So, if I vote Republican and the uneducated lower class democrats get laid off, they will eventually starve to death right?
 
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TENNFOLD1974 said:
It's sad we live in an "all for me and F you" society
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Every successful person in America employs others to work for them, so in essence there is no "all for me and F you" society here. Whether you like it or not we all depend on those very successful people for our jobs, take them away and we don't work!
 
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kptvol said:
Well I'm certain that isn't the case. Seriously, you come out of nowhere every now and then to tell hatvol he's too pompous and then you post crap like this. No one respects you even a little bit. Your opinion is universally regarded as manure. Go away forever. No one will miss you.
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If you think I care how my opinion is regarded on a message board you are even more of a loser than I thought. I am not trying to garner the respect of those who frequent a particular message board. In case you haven't realized it, it is out in the real world where you need respect, not from some message board junkies. I have the respect of the people that matter in my world. So no, I am not going away at all. I will continue to give my opinions, if you don't like them there isn't much you can do about it, is there?

And you are the biggest idiot in the world if you can't differentiate the post you have quoted and the manner in which Hat responds to most everyone with his posts.
 
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KB5252 said:
Every successful person in America employs others to work for them, so in essence there is no "all for me and F you" society here. Whether you like it or not we all depend on those very successful people for our jobs, take them away and we don't work!
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This isn't even close to remotely true. There are more financially successful people who don't employ people than there are who do. A V/P at a fortune 20 company doesn't employ anyone to work for them.

I think you have misspoke, because I think you are one of the smarter posters in here and this statement is totally wrong.

And lets be honest, success isn't measured in dollars and cents...not really. Success is measured, IMHO, by happiness and contentment
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
That's about 98% of the Democrats, and would be a damn good start.
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98% of the democrats are uneducated and lower class???? The very few uneducated people I know are ALL republicans. I haven't seen too many rebel flags flying on the vehicles and houses of democrats.

You're clueless
 
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truefan said:
98% of the democrats are uneducated and lower class???? The very few uneducated people I know are ALL republicans. I haven't seen too many rebel flags flying on the vehicles and houses of democrats.

You're clueless
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Don't look hard, huh?
 
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#116
truefan said:
If you think I care how my opinion is regarded on a message board you are even more of a loser than I thought. I am not trying to garner the respect of those who frequent a particular message board. In case you haven't realized it, it is out in the real world where you need respect, not from some message board junkies. I have the respect of the people that matter in my world. So no, I am not going away at all. I will continue to give my opinions, if you don't like them there isn't much you can do about it, is there?

And you are the biggest idiot in the world if you can't differentiate the post you have quoted and the manner in which Hat responds to most everyone with his posts.
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If I had feelings, that would hurt.
 
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truefan said:
This isn't even close to remotely true. There are more financially successful people who don't employ people than there are who do. A V/P at a fortune 20 company doesn't employ anyone to work for them.

I think you have misspoke, because I think you are one of the smarter posters in here and this statement is totally wrong.

And lets be honest, success isn't measured in dollars and cents...not really. Success is measured, IMHO, by happiness and contentment
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Weather they directly employ them or not you can bet that those high level executives hire someone to clean their house, take their shirts to be cleaned etc. Because they have more money than time people who offer those services benefit.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
That's about 98% of the Democrats, and would be a damn good start.
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Since I work at a university (THE University I might add :)) most all of the college professors that I know of are Democrats, or at least are voting for Obama. Would you say they are uneducated?
 
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KB5252 said:
Weather they directly employ them or not you can bet that those high level executives hire someone to clean their house, take their shirts to be cleaned etc. Because they have more money than time people who offer those services benefit.
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Nice point, but is more likely the middle class guy who might not start doing some of those things with a tax break than a guy making 500,000 stopping those things because he has tax increase.


I will explain it another way. A middle class worker earning 45,000 who trades cars every 5 years and always pays cash for them is more likely to trade in 3 years if he gets a tax break. The worker earning 500,000 is still going to buy his Lexus every three years regardless.
 
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truefan said:
98% of the democrats are uneducated and lower class???? The very few uneducated people I know are ALL republicans. I haven't seen too many rebel flags flying on the vehicles and houses of democrats.

You're clueless
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Those people were ALL Democrats. Until the Democrats nominated Hussein Obama as their candidate. :eek:lol:

Here is a simple test. Go to a ghetto somewhere. I'm sure a caring, share the wealth Democrat like you, spends plenty of time there already., You know, volunteer work and things like that.

First, put on an Obama shirt and walk through. Now, put on a McCain shirt and walk through.

When you are done. Come back and tell us who they support.

BTW, you're voting for Obama. You can never again call anyone clueless.
 
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onevolfan said:
Since I work at a university (THE University I might add :)) most all of the college professors that I know of are Democrats, or at least are voting for Obama. Would you say they are uneducated?[/QUOTE]
Have you ever heard the term, educated idiot? That fits a lot of wild eyed liberal professors.

You know the type. The more complex the theory, the bigger his smile. Then you hand the guy a ceral box, and have to explain how to open it.
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#124
truefan said:
Nice point, but is more likely the middle class guy who might not start doing some of those things with a tax break than a guy making 500,000 stopping those things because he has tax increase.


I will explain it another way. A middle class worker earning 45,000 who trades cars every 5 years and always pays cash for them is more likely to trade in 3 years if he gets a tax break. The worker earning 500,000 is still going to buy his Lexus every three years regardless.
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But in essence what you are saying here is that those who can afford to buy a Lexus every three years should pay in more so those who can't can buy a Maxima every five. It just isn't the way capitalism works. If you can't afford a Maxima every five years maybe you should look into a Kia.

There are many choices in a free market society, if you want more than you can currently afford you should simply do something to better yourself. If you cannot, for whatever reason, simply learn to be happy with what you have and be proud that you can provide for yourself and loved ones. I know that's what my wife and I have learned to do.
 
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KB5252 said:
But in essence what you are saying here is that those who can afford to buy a Lexus every three years should pay in more so those who can't can buy a Maxima every five. It just isn't the way capitalism works. If you can't afford a Maxima every five years maybe you should look into a Kia.

There are many choices in a free market society, if you want more than you can currently afford you should simply do something to better yourself. If you cannot, for whatever reason, simply learn to be happy with what you have and be proud that you can provide for yourself and loved ones. I know that's what my wife and I have learned to do.
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Like work your ass off. Don't go in to debt to impress people.
 
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