Chick-Fil-A President: Men shouldn't eat other men's chicken

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burntorangeVOLffle said:
The excuse that this is about free speech is silly. No one has said he can't make stupid statements. He has the legal right to say he hates Jews too but does that make it "right".

If his statement had been about supporting segregation would these free speech advocates be turning out in droves to eat some fried chicken sandwiches?
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Did he ever say he hated anyone? All he said was he is against gay marriage. Quit trying to play on people's emotions by linking this to what blacks went through. Not even close to the same thing.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Now, having said that...

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It's funny because it's true.
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If I were an African American, I would be deeply upset that people try to the compare struggles of gays to what AA has gone through.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Now, having said that...

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It's funny because it's true.
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Ironically a group of black clergy made an impassioned speech about how moves like those by Rahm Emmanuel are akin to segregationists - just to be clear; they were suggesting the anti-CFA actions were equivalent to the bottom half of the picture.

I went there yesterday as a silent and delicious protest against ridiculous assertions like you make with this picture.
 
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RE: the kiss-in on Friday(?).

Are the participants going to be paying customers (e.g. buy a chicken sandwich, waffle fries, and a dr. pepper), or are they just going to waltz into the CFA dining rooms and start sucking face without buying anything?

I only ask, b/c I'm confident some news coverage will be about "discrimination" if/when some CFA managers kick the kissers out of their dining rooms for loitering (or something).

Is CFA a "public forum" where anti-CFA people can protest? Do they have to be "customers" b/c CFA is private property?
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
The whole thing is ridiculous on both sides. This support of free speech excuse is silly bc no one has said the CEO does not have the right to say what he did. Just because you have the right to say something stupid doesn't mean you can't suffer bad PR for it. And let's be honest, is the best way to show support for free speech to go eat a meal of saturated fat?

Now the kiss in thing is just as silly,probably more so. If you truely feel that passionate about it, just don't eat there.
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While I agree that the boycott thing is the best solution for those deeply offended, the anti-boycott is equally legit.

I went because while I disagree with Cathy's personal views I don't think the company has done anything wrong and the vilification of them is so over the top that I wanted to make a small gesture against it.

The part about eating a meal of saturated fat is completely irrelevant.
 
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dreVol said:
RE: the kiss-in on Friday(?).

Are the participants going to be paying customers (e.g. buy a chicken sandwich, waffle fries, and a dr. pepper), or are they just going to waltz into the CFA dining rooms and start sucking face without buying anything?

I only ask, b/c I'm confident some news coverage will be about "discrimination" if/when some CFA managers kick the kissers out of their dining rooms for loitering (or something).

Is CFA a "public forum" where anti-CFA people can protest? Do they have to be "customers" b/c CFA is private property?
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I bet they won't kick them out but it is not a public forum. I doubt they'll be making any purchases.

My bet too is that there will be some disruption of service.
 
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Just to provide the counter point to the "if you support Chick-fil-A you are equivalent to segregationists" lunacy.

Black Pastors Campaign Against President Obama Over Gay Marriage

Owens said the mayors of Chicago and Boston (in addition to San Francisco and Washington, D.C.) saying they don’t want Chik-Fil-A franchises in their cities was similar to his experiences growing up in the segregated South, where he was not allowed to patronize white establishments because of his skin color. He said these mayors and others opposed to Chik-Fil-A were discriminating against the franchise because of the president’s beliefs, just as he was discriminated against because he’s black.
“There’s no difference,” he said.
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volinbham said:
I bet they won't kick them out but it is not a public forum. I doubt they'll be making any purchases.

My bet too is that there will be some disruption of service.
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If they cause a disruption in service, they have a right to kick them out. It's a private company whose goal is to turn a profit. As I stated in an earlier post, I'm sure chick fil a will welcome the "kiss-in" people with open arms.
 
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VolFan32 said:
If they cause a disruption in service, they have a right to kick them out. It's a private company whose goal is to turn a profit. As I stated in an earlier post, I'm sure chick fil a will welcome the "kiss-in" people with open arms.
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agree on both points - they have the right to kick them out but they will not do so; I bet they'll even offer them some free food.
 
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Nobody cared about the bill of rights when they were trying to build the mosque in NYC. People are only fighting for free speech because they agree with the speech.
 
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rjd970 said:
Given the current state of politics, the "nobody" identifier is getting pretty darn close.
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that's fine, I've been trying to align myself with an oppressed minority anyway and now I am one :rock:
 
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n_huffhines said:
Nobody cared about the bill of rights when they were trying to build the mosque in NYC. People are only fighting for free speech because they agree with the speech.
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That was my point that clearly went over some heads. If he had made some remark about bi-racial marriage or some such this crying for freedom of speech would be suspiciously quiet. There are a few that may have gone for some other reason than supporting anti-gay marriage but the majority went for that reason and are hiding behind the defense of free speech.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Nobody cared about the bill of rights when they were trying to build the mosque in NYC. People are only fighting for free speech because they agree with the speech.
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guess I'm in the middle on this one too. I thought the mosque builders were being insensitive to 9/11 victims friends and family but didn't think they should be legally barred from building it.

Since the stated purpose was to promote understanding I think the wise thing to do would have been for them to understand why it would be hurtful.
 
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This "kiss in" thing is irritating to me. I see things like this more and more. And as mentioned above, if they are making a scene and are asked to leave then yes it wil turn into a discrimination issue.

I went to Lee University (a Christian college) and there was a gay rights activist group that came there one week. They were not invited onto the campus they just showed up and were everywhere. I was fine with them being there (as were the majority of students), but before they arrived they sent a "we're coming whether you like it or not" letter to the president of the university. He showed the campus their promo video in the chapel service the day they were supposed to arrive. The video was a montage of them getting pushed around and yelled at and sometimes hit by college students at different Christian universities.

I remember thinking "Why would these students attack these people like that? I can understand not being comfortable around them but that is way overboard". They they arrived on campus and I immediately figured it out. For a straight week they were stopping us before we went into the dining hall (trying to make us answer questions before they "let us through" to our own dining hall to eat), following us to class, getting in our faces, and pressuring us with their beliefs. I saw small shy innocent girls just gettin pummeled with "what do you have against gay people" questions to a point where they looked petrified. It was obnoxious.

Of course the parts where they were trying to bully and provoking people weren't shown on the promo video, the only thing shown was what people did when they finally hit their breaking point.

Ok sorry for the rant, the point is don't be surprised if somewhere in the country there are LGBT people asked to leave a chick fil a and it becomes a big discrimination issue and the fact that they were sucking face in the middle of chic fil a without intent to purchase gets ignored.
 
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I'm proposing that linking opposing gay marriage to being equivalent to a segregationist is the new version of Godwin's Law or at least a corollary.
 
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I personally have no problem with gay marriage. Voted for it when it was on the ballot here.

But this "kiss-in" strikes me as going about things the wrong way. If you want people to believe that there is no difference between straight couples and gay couples, and that gay couples are just as family-oriented and wholesome as anyone else, then making out in a fast food restaurant would seem to be sending the exact opposite message.
 
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don't have a problem with the kiss-in. The funny thing this morning is my Facebook has blown up with how the CFA appreciation day was wrong because a gay person driving buy might think all those people lined up to show they are against gay people. There's an op-ed by some Christian whose great grandma was Truett Cathy's neighbor thinks it's "un Jesus-like" to "shove it in the face" of gay people (an unfortunate choice of words) by having an "appreciation day". Well if that's the case then the kiss-in is likewise a "shove it in the face day".

hopefully the whole thing will fizzle.
 
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volinbham said:
don't have a problem with the kiss-in. The funny thing this morning is my Facebook has blown up with how the CFA appreciation day was wrong because a gay person driving buy might think all those people lined up to show they are against gay people. There's an op-ed by some Christian whose great grandma was Truett Cathy's neighbor thinks it's "un Jesus-like" to "shove it in the face" of gay people (an unfortunate choice of words) by having an "appreciation day". Well if that's the case then the kiss-in is likewise a "shove it in the face day".

hopefully the whole thing will fizzle.
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My FB page had just one or two comments about it. No one really seems to care except the extremes of both positions.

I'd agree its going to fizzle, except that I really don't think it was much of an issue to begin with.
 
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Are the Gays going to eat their chicken sandwiches before or after the kiss-in ?

Once they smell that chicken and waffle fries sizzling in the deep fryer, they will not be able to resist.
 
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