Chick-Fil-A President: Men shouldn't eat other men's chicken

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I've shared before that my sister is on-track to be a CFA Operator (owner) soon. She was texting Dan Cathey while we were out to dinner on Sunday night. She said she's being called in for a huge meeting for the owners to discuss how to troubleshoot this issue. LGBT organizations are really letting CFA have it over this.
After her meeting, I'll share what she tells me.
 
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Ed Helms says he's boycotting Chik-Fil-A over this. I'm boycotting the show he helped destroy because he sucks on it.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
Are you talking about The Office? If so, yeah it's garbage, but Ed Helms had nothing to do with its demise.
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His acting was pretty awful this year. If you mean it's the writers' fault because they gave him nothing to work with, I guess I could buy that, but I pretty much hated his character this past season.
 
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Chick-Fil-A made a pretty smart move here, actually. My promoting intolerance and bigotry, you're playing to your target demographic. Hell, look how many people are poised to visit Chick-Fil-A for its "appreciation day" via Mike Huckabee's Facebook event. The vast majority of Chick-Fil-A's customers either don't care enough about prejudice inflicted upon gay people to stop eating there or find that it lines up perfectly with their religious, political and world views.

In turn, there are a lot of people who won't eat at Chick-Fil-A anymore... but never really did in the first place. Chick-Fil-A is a staple of the bible belt and Heartland, but how many blue state residents really eat there? Washington, Oregon, and Connecticut have zero locations, Massachusetts and New Hampshire represent the two stores in New England, New York and the District of Columbia each have one and there are very few located in NorCal.

I think that the views of the Cathy family and Chick-Fil-A as a whole about this issue and other similar situations are embarrassingly antiquated, but you're trying to earn the business of a bunch of people who think that a floating man in the sky should dictate laws in the United States. So, in that sense, Chick-Fil-A might as well stick to their guns on this.
 
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Promoting intolerance and bigotry? The guy said he was against same-sex marriage. I don't agree with him but it is a position on one issue.

Ironic orangesparkles that you refer to a "floating man in the sky" which offensive to those who believe in God. If Cathey's position is akin to promoting intolerance and bigotry then your statement is as well.
 
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This thing is really getting blown out of proportion. He said they don't support gay marriage. That's an issue most Americans agree with him on, according to the way they vote at the polls.
People's disdain for those disagreeing with them is just getting out of control. I guess the "Coexist" stickers are just for those that agree with them.
I don't see any hatred in his comments at all. Just his political stance on a popular topic...and again, he's not in the minority. If he were a Muslim or Hindu and made these comments, it would just be viewed as a reflection of his culture. Since he cites Christianity, it's something to boycott. Call me when he says he doesn't want gays to eat at his restaurant.
 
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volinbham said:
Promoting intolerance and bigotry? The guy said he was against same-sex marriage. I don't agree with him but it is a position on one issue.

Ironic orangesparkles that you refer to a "floating man in the sky" which offensive to those who believe in God. If Cathey's position is akin to promoting intolerance and bigotry then your statement is as well.
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Funny, I figured being against same-sex marriage was intolerant of two consenting adults getting married because they happen to be of the same gender. And, seeing as bigotry is defined as being intolerantly devoted to your own opinions and prejudices, that seems pretty bigoted as well.

There's an inherent difference between Cathy's position and my personal beliefs. I don't believe in God, but I'm not saying that everyone around be has to ascribe to my belief system. If you want to believe in an invisible power, go right ahead! Conversely, Cathy is an ardent believer in the bible, where it was written many moons ago that homosexuality is a sin. In turn, he is trying to prevent gay people from getting married. That is bigotry at its finest.
 
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I wish kids would boycott Chick-Fil-a instead so that I could eat there in peace...I love me some CFA!!!

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And, seeing as bigotry is defined as being intolerantly devoted to your own opinions and prejudices, that seems pretty bigoted as well.
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so according to that definition wouldn't both sides be considered bigots then? Since neither side is tolerant of the other's beliefs?
 
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Panthro said:
This thing is really getting blown out of proportion. He said they don't support gay marriage. That's an issue most Americans agree with him on, according to the way they vote at the polls.
People's disdain for those disagreeing with them is just getting out of control. I guess the "Coexist" stickers are just for those that agree with them.
I don't see any hatred in his comments at all. Just his political stance on a popular topic...and again, he's not in the minority. If he were a Muslim or Hindu and made these comments, it would just be viewed as a reflection of his culture. Since he cites Christianity, it's something to boycott. Call me when he says he doesn't want gays to eat at his restaurant.
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I'm well aware of what he said, and I'm well aware of the donations Chick-Fil-A has made to certain advocacy groups. Cathy has not stated, nor will he ever state, that he doesn't want gay people to work or dine at his establishments.

We're talking about a multi-billion dollar corporation that wants to make sure that same-sex marriage stays illegal in most of America. That's the problem. By opposing same-sex marriage, Cathy is opposing providing general freedoms to his fellow Americans. He can think that all he wants, but doing so makes him bigoted and intolerant. I don't care if you're Christian, Muslim or LDS, your religious views should not get in the way of some gay couple's civil rights and liberties.
 
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bigeasy said:
I wish kids would boycott Chick-Fil-a instead so that I could eat there in peace...I love me some CFA!!!



so according to that definition wouldn't both sides be considered bigots then? Since neither side is tolerant of the other's beliefs?
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One side says that two people of the same gender can't get married because of said side's religious views. The other side says that personal religious views should not get in the way of allowing to random people to get married.

If you think that both are examples of bigotry, I question your level of intellectual thought.
 
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orangesparkles said:
One side says that two people of the same gender can't get married because of said side's religious views. The other side says that personal religious views should not get in the way of allowing to random people to get married.

If you think that both are examples of bigotry, I question your level of intellectual thought.
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Do you believe that a Mormon should be allowed to have multiple wives or husbands?
 
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Volst53 said:
Do you believe that a Mormon should be allowed to have multiple wives or husbands?
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Polygyny, polyandry, group marriage and the like are all inherently different from gay marriage. Marriage in the United States has a collection of legal benefits which directly link together two parties; when three or more parties are involved, the issues of inheritance, responsibility status and whatnot do not remain the same.

Gay marriage is the exact same contract as "traditional marriage," except binding two people of the same gender.
 
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But that has nothing to do with what you said bigotry is defined as. You said it is defined as being intolerantly devoted to your own opinions and prejudices. You did not say it has anything to do with civil liberties, religion, etc (all being personal opinion). Both sides are devoted to what they think is right/wrong. So from what it sounds like a person is not a bigot unless they are devoted to their own religious (Christian) opinions.
 
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I think there are a couple of distinct points in this whole issue. I personally feel Mr. Cathy is well within his rights to provide his feelings on the topic of same sex marriage, and he is certainly not the only person who feels that way. He is following his religious beliefs as many do and is not technically 'hurting' anyone by stating his beliefs on the topic. I think most folks already understood this company was founded and operated by a very faith based family, so this is not terribly shocking.

However, there is also the matter of donations made to some groups which have/do actively promote anti-gay agendas (primarily marriage, but also extending equal benefits to same sex couples). One group (NCF) also has provided funds to groups like Family Research Council, which has pushed several ridiculous anti-gay ideals. In addition funds have been provided to a group which partnered with promoters of the Ugandan 'kill the gays' bill. I am not saying that all of the donations go to these groups/causes; I am sure many of those monies are put to very good use. With that said, this is the most troubling part for me.

In the end Chick-Fil-A can run its business and provide donations to whatever groups it wishes and, as many have said already, if we do not agree we do not have to support the business. While I do not provide business to Chick-Fil-A it does not mean I want to see an American business fail; I simply hope that in time they will modify their stance and more importantly, where they direct charitable contributions.
 
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orangesparkles said:
Polygyny, polyandry, group marriage and the like are all inherently different from gay marriage. Marriage in the United States has a collection of legal benefits which directly link together two parties; when three or more parties are involved, the issues of inheritance, responsibility status and whatnot do not remain the same.

Gay marriage is the exact same contract as "traditional marriage," except binding two people of the same gender.
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Yes, it would they could still divide everything up. Instead of one it might be two, three, four, or maybe even eight people.




I also don't have an issue with gays getting married.
 
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bigeasy said:
But that has nothing to do with what you said bigotry is defined as. You said it is defined as being intolerantly devoted to your own opinions and prejudices. You did not say it has anything to do with civil liberties, religion, etc (all being personal opinion). Both sides are devoted to what they think is right/wrong. So from what it sounds like a person is not a bigot unless they are devoted to their own religious (Christian) opinions.
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... do you keep missing the word "intolerant?" Saying that someone is free to hold whatever religious beliefs they want so long as it doesn't impede a minority group's civil liberties isn't intolerant. Possessing a belief that a group of people should be denied the right to marry whom they love because it conflicts with scripture is intolerant.

You have the right to believe whatever you want until it begins to negatively impact the private lives of another group of people. If you consider a person who is all for religious freedom until it begins to hurt another party's liberties to be "intolerant," then you're not looking at this the right way.
 
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orangesparkles said:
One side says that two people of the same gender can't get married because of said side's religious views. The other side says that personal religious views should not get in the way of allowing to random people to get married.

If you think that both are examples of bigotry, I question your level of intellectual thought.
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I disagree. I think there has to actually have actions upon your thoughts for it to be true bigotry; otherwise it is just merely sharing one's opinion.
 
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They have a new sandwich, Queer-Hatin' Cordon Bleu

Chick-Fil-A Debuts New Homophobic Sandwich | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

In a press conference to reporters, company representatives said the homophobic new sandwich will include the national fast food chain’s trademark fried chicken filet wrapped in a piece of specially-smoked No Homo ham that would be topped with a slice of Swiss cheese and lathered in a creamy new Thousand Island-based *** Punching sauce.
"The Queer-Hatin' Cordon Bleu is our company's way of showing our firm commitment to strong, Christian family values," said Chick-fil-A spokesman Robert Gary, before adding that the vehemently anti-gay rights sandwich comes served in a combo with waffle fries and a medium soda for just $6.95. "From the very first morsel of this savory meal to the very last bite, customers can envision gays burning in hell with their sodomizing cohorts, and know that our sandwich is on their side.”
"Of course, the young ones will want to finish their meals off right with a No Fudge Packin' Soft Serve Cone," Gary added. "I can't think of a better way to follow up a sandwich this good."
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orangesparkles said:
Funny, I figured being against same-sex marriage was intolerant of two consenting adults getting married because they happen to be of the same gender. And, seeing as bigotry is defined as being intolerantly devoted to your own opinions and prejudices, that seems pretty bigoted as well.

There's an inherent difference between Cathy's position and my personal beliefs. I don't believe in God, but I'm not saying that everyone around be has to ascribe to my belief system. If you want to believe in an invisible power, go right ahead! Conversely, Cathy is an ardent believer in the bible, where it was written many moons ago that homosexuality is a sin. In turn, he is trying to prevent gay people from getting married. That is bigotry at its finest.
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you used a slur to describe God in attempt to ridicule beliefs of others - sounds like bigotry to me.
 
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orangesparkles said:
Polygyny, polyandry, group marriage and the like are all inherently different from gay marriage. Marriage in the United States has a collection of legal benefits which directly link together two parties; when three or more parties are involved, the issues of inheritance, responsibility status and whatnot do not remain the same.

Gay marriage is the exact same contract as "traditional marriage," except binding two people of the same gender.
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I'm not against gay marriage but you are just arbitrarily deciding what is alike and what is not alike.

Marriage since the beginning of country has had two components - 2 people; heterosexual couple. You dismiss polygamy since it violates the 2 people part but say the heterosexual component is irrelevant.

It is a debate. The Chick-fil-A guy has one opinion and has worked to express that opinion. If you support gay marriage and work to make it illegal you are working to express your opinion.
 
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