Chick-Fil-A President: Men shouldn't eat other men's chicken

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Gillbilly said:
You're missing the point. It's not meant to be. If a straight couple don't want kids that fine. Most people marry to start a family and you can't naturally do that if you're a homo couple. If they don't want kids, ok, but what's the point in getting married? Attention? Just saying look we're gay, we're special?
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not "don't want kids" but try "physically can't reproduce" instead.

if a straight couple is unable to start a family together should they be allowed to marry each other? What's the point, attention?
 
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utvolpj said:
not "don't want" but try "physically can't reproduce" instead.

if a straight couple is unable to start a family together should they be allowed to marry each other? What's the point, attention?
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Yes, they should. But, eventually they end up trying to raise a family. Now, people who can't reproduce usually adopt. But they're aren't taking away a mother/father. If a homosexual couple decides to adopt then then kid isn't going to have a mother/father. People look at someone who leaves a kid as a bad guy. What do you say to a gay couple that is without a mother/father?
 
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Gillbilly said:
Yes, they should. But, eventually they end up trying to raise a family. Now, people who can't reproduce usually adopt. But they're aren't taking away a mother/father. If a homosexual couple decides to adopt then then kid isn't going to have a mother/father. People look at someone who leaves a kid as a bad guy. What do you say to a gay couple that is without a mother/father?
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so they can only get married if they plan to adopt in the future? I was never asked that question when applying for the marriage license

and I would say that a kid raised in a household with 2 parents that love each other will benefit them no matter the parents sex. I see no issue with any couple choosing to take a child into their home and raise them to be a productive member of society. Not really sure why anyone has an issue with that
 
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Gillbilly said:
Yes, they should. But, eventually they end up trying to raise a family. Now, people who can't reproduce usually adopt. But they're aren't taking away a mother/father. If a homosexual couple decides to adopt then then kid isn't going to have a mother/father. People look at someone who leaves a kid as a bad guy. What do you say to a gay couple that is without a mother/father?
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The only reason that kid is at any disadvantage is because of bigots who will make their life hard. I'm sure otherwise they would get by just fine with two fathers or two mothers.
 
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Gillbilly said:
You're missing the point. It's not meant to be. If a straight couple don't want kids that fine. Most people marry to start a family and you can't naturally do that if you're a homo couple. If they don't want kids, ok, but what's the point in getting married? Attention? Just saying look we're gay, we're special?
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Wow. Just wow.
 
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Gillbilly said:
Yes, they should. But, eventually they end up trying to raise a family. Now, people who can't reproduce usually adopt. But they're aren't taking away a mother/father. If a homosexual couple decides to adopt then then kid isn't going to have a mother/father. People look at someone who leaves a kid as a bad guy. What do you say to a gay couple that is without a mother/father?
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I would say two loving parents are much better than one parent regardless of their gender.
 
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#211
We are really diverting from the issue here. Our own stance on same-sex-marriage has nothing to do with this. The issue SHOULD be that an American voiced his opinion (which frankly doesn't make a bit of difference in deciding whether or not gays can marry) on a controversial issue, and is being raked over the coals for it. Again, he's hardly in the minority on this one, but he's still being talked about like he just suggested a genocide on the homosexual population. He's a religious dude who is sticking to his convictions. He's hardly being aggressive about it.
I say let the man believe what he wants. If you disagree, that's cool. That is the beauty of this country.
 
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SWIL said:
Dumb move but I'll still eat their sammiches
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Maybe, maybe not. Next Wednesday looks like it could be quite a day for them.

This has also exposed some politicians, so I'm kinda grateful for that...but we didn't really learn anything new.
 
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Gillbilly said:
You're missing the point. It's not meant to be. If a straight couple don't want kids that fine. Most people marry to start a family and you can't naturally do that if you're a homo couple. If they don't want kids, ok, but what's the point in getting married? Attention? Just saying look we're gay, we're special?
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I know I've said this before in other threads, but just wanted to make clear that for me the biggest reason for wanting marriage equality (or a federal civil union-type setup) is for the same federal rights/benefits available to heterosexual couples. Some of these are very significant - primarily PNOK and survivor/estate handling. These are a big, big deal for me. Having access to the term 'marriage' is not as significant for me, but access to the same federal/state treatment is. Many may have heard about Sally Ride's recent passing - she has a surviving partner of 27 years who will not have access to the same survivor benefits that a married person would have. Does that seem right? Fair? This is one of the big reasons that the gay community continues to fight so hard for equality.

EDIT: Sorry for straying off-topic, but wanted to answer this specific question.
 
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Gillbilly, save yourself some time and quit arguing with these people. If they start the discussion with you're a dumbass hillbilly bigot you aren't gonna get anywhere. If God is as real as Santa Claus to someone, they won't care about religious reasoning. Those are the two arguments you're gonna get when this comes up. So much for tolerance, huh?

Religious people need to realize its a sin just like any sin in anyone's life. I know I'm not perfect, so I'm not telling someone else they're going to hell. I may be right behind them in line. If the pro-gay crowd would chill out, I think they'd find that most people don't really care.
 
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I just got through eating a 12 piece and a crispy chicken sandwich from Chic Fil A...and it was DELICIOUS....My family WILL BE there next Wednesday in support....
 
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tkemo said:
Gillbilly, save yourself some time and quit arguing with these people. If they start the discussion with you're a dumbass hillbilly bigot you aren't gonna get anywhere. If God is as real as Santa Claus to someone, they won't care about religious reasoning. Those are the two arguments you're gonna get when this comes up. So much for tolerance, huh?
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I don't think I used either of those arguments in this thread. However when people start using the bible as justification it's bound to come back at them. Fair enough IMO

tkemo said:
Religious people need to realize its a sin just like any sin in anyone's life. I know I'm not perfect, so I'm not telling someone else they're going to hell. I may be right behind them in line. If the pro-gay crowd would chill out, I think they'd find that most people don't really care.
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pro-gay is about as much a misnomer as pro-abortion. How about pro-rights/pro-access/pro-equal protection/etc?

and if most people don't care then what's the holdup?
 
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Panthro said:
We are really diverting from the issue here. Our own stance on same-sex-marriage has nothing to do with this. The issue SHOULD be that an American voiced his opinion (which frankly doesn't make a bit of difference in deciding whether or not gays can marry) on a controversial issue, and is being raked over the coals for it. Again, he's hardly in the minority on this one, but he's still being talked about like he just suggested a genocide on the homosexual population. He's a religious dude who is sticking to his convictions. He's hardly being aggressive about it.
I say let the man believe what he wants. If you disagree, that's cool. That is the beauty of this country.
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the media and the mob that is happily engaging in the spectacle are acting as though the Chik-Fil-A president refuses to serve homosexuals.

the guy expressed an opinion, if consumers choose to boycott his product then that was the risk he took. the government shouldn't (perhaps can't?) engage in retaliatory conduct because of the guy exercised his first amendment right.
 
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What is next Wednesday? Some sort of pro-bigotry rally at CFA restaurants?

I guess I'll eat there Tuesday and Thursday in protest.
 
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Panthro said:
Surely that's what they believe. Otherwise, why would they care so much about a personal political stance held by the president of a fast food chain?
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there's a distinct difference in "what they believe" and what "the media and the mob that is happily engaging in"
 
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Marriage, as defined by God, is the union of one man and one woman. If you're a Christian, this is what you believe.

My opinion on marriage has nothing to do with my opinion on who should or shouldn't receive benefits.
 
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