Chick-Fil-A President: Men shouldn't eat other men's chicken

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volinbham said:
Yep - funny too that the side demanding tolerance makes such sweeping negative generalizations about the other side...
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You made a great point in the post prior to mine. I don't have a problem with homosexuals. I have a problem homosexuals demanding that I agree with them. Don't like mr Cathy's stance, don't purchase his food. Not a big deal.
 
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if i owned a grocerey store i wouldnt allow anyone with an ebt card or an obama bumper sticker in my store.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Have you all seen this? Read these from people who demand tolerance of gay marriage.

No H8? Gay marriage supporters to opponents: kill yourselves | Twitchy
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This stuff is ridiculous and shows that people can be idiots on both sides of the issue. I have been bothered since this whole topic came up by some acquaintances making fiery statements in regards to Chick-Fil-A, though nothing as severe as the above. Obviously I am supportive of marriage equality (or whatever term we eventually use), and do not agree with the stance of Chick-Fil-A or Mr. Cathy. With that said, we should certainly be able to civilly discuss or 'argue' the issue and if we don't agree we certainly do not have to support the business. I just have a real problem with the hateful rhetoric on both sides...I just do not understand why people think behaving in a hateful manner is going to persuade folks to a different way of viewing things. It is pure idiocy imo.
 
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gcbvol said:
This stuff is ridiculous and shows that people can be idiots on both sides of the issue. I have been bothered since this whole topic came up by some acquaintances making fiery statements in regards to Chick-Fil-A, though nothing as severe as the above. Obviously I am supportive of marriage equality (or whatever term we eventually use), and do not agree with the stance of Chick-Fil-A or Mr. Cathy. With that said, we should certainly be able to civilly discuss or 'argue' the issue and if we don't agree we certainly do not have to support the business. I just have a real problem with the hateful rhetoric on both sides...I just do not understand why people think behaving in a hateful manner is going to persuade folks to a different way of viewing things. It is pure idiocy imo.
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I agree. I don't believe that gay marriage is right but for me it should be a state rights issue. Let each state decide. I am tired of anyone who feels like gay marriage is wrong being called bigots and said we hate gay people. I love living in a country where people can be gay or straight personally I don't give a darn what people do. It appears you and I are on opposite sides of this issue but I don't have any ill feelings towards you over it, just the ones who want to call me and others who believe like me bigots all the time.

If someone does not support Chick-Fil-A stance go eat somewhere else, that's your right just as it is theirs to not support gay marriage.
 
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And now officials in Chicago, Boston and Mountain View, CA vow to block new Chick-Fil-A stores from opening.

Of course, this fits right into Rahm Emanuel's "let's see who can be the worst mayor ever" campaign.
 
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Wow, I am behind on this. There are actually elected officials attempting to block the opening of these restaurants because of the owner's beliefs. That is rather disgusting.
 
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allvol123 said:
Wow, I am behind on this. There are actually elected officials attempting to block the opening of these restaurants because of the owner's beliefs. That is rather disgusting.
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I tend to agree if they are working to block strictly on his personal beliefs. However if this is more due to some of the organizations they have been contributing to, I can somewhat understand. Bottom line is that Chick-Fil-A is not an evil entity (imo), and folks should not be attempting to prohibit growth of an American business/jobs. I do, though, think that Chick-Fil-A should closely examine where their charitable contributions are going..again this is just my personal opinion.
 
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salutethehill said:
And now officials in Chicago, Boston and Mountain View, CA vow to block new Chick-Fil-A stores from opening.

Of course, this fits right into Rahm Emanuel's "let's see who can be the worst mayor ever" campaign.
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I think the CFA pres is a horrible bigot for his beliefs, but this can't be serious. That's outrageous.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I agree. I don't believe that gay marriage is right but for me it should be a state rights issue. Let each state decide. I am tired of anyone who feels like gay marriage is wrong being called bigots and said we hate gay people. I love living in a country where people can be gay or straight personally I don't give a darn what people do. It appears you and I are on opposite sides of this issue but I don't have any ill feelings towards you over it, just the ones who want to call me and others who believe like me bigots all the time.

If someone does not support Chick-Fil-A stance go eat somewhere else, that's your right just as it is theirs to not support gay marriage.
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Damn, this might be the most level-headed post I've seen from you. Kudos.
 
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allvol123 said:
Wow, I am behind on this. There are actually elected officials attempting to block the opening of these restaurants because of the owner's beliefs. That is rather disgusting.
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I don't mind so long as it is done referendum style.
 
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I've got a good friend who owns a CFA. He just posted this on facebook:

Recently, CFA president, Dan Cathy (son of founder, Truett Cathy) expressed his opinion on marriage (specifically, his partiality to "traditional marriage") durring an interview.

This sparked a lot of debate, and many headlines read: "Chick-fil-A is anti-gay".

I own a Chick-fil-A franchise, so I took this very personally. I have many gay friends through my barbershop hobby that I love dearly, and consider to be my "brothers in harmony". I am not "anti-gay". Also, no one who I would ever hire to work for me, is anti-gay.. So, how and why did I get lumped into this??

It reminds me of how Americans are treated in other countries: When people judge us by the personal beliefs of our president (George W/Obama) - many of which beliefs, we don't even agree with!
As open-minded American's, we would not judge Italy as a whole, based on the personal beliefs of it's Prime Minister, so why would we judge Chick-fil-A as a whole, for a personal belief from it's president? Think about your boss.. Would you be comfortable if you were judged on what he believed, and everywhere he spent his money?

I work my heart out, to make sure every team member makes amazing food, and gives amazing service to every guest. No one has the time to discriminate, they are too busy trying to live up to the expectations that I have set. It kills me to think that anyone would consider us to be anti-gay, based on the personal belief of one person. I hope you get where I'm headed. My restaurant does not operate with any "agenda". In fact, no Chick-fil-A does.

I know that some might think.. "Even if you are well meaning, the money still goes to anti-gay causes, so I'll still boycott". Let me address this.

Founder, Truett Cathy has built foster homes, and adopted over 100 children. He's given millions in scholarships to Chick-fil-A team members, and millions to universities through sponsoring the Chick-fil-A bowl. He is a passionate philanthropist that loves children and families, and donates to others that share his passion for children and families. Some of the organizations he donates to... Spend their money on *many* different things (even a fraction on political issues). But to tie Truett to somehow having an anti-gay agenda is a stretch, at best. To tie his employees and his company to being anti-gay? That's just complete libel and slander.

You should know, that when you go to my store, a percentage WILL go to one of Truett's 'partner' organizations. How much? Less than half of a cent from your meal. A small fraction of that 1/2 cent might possibly go towards a religious, political cause. However, it equally might go to building a swing set or park bench for orphaned children.

Therein lies the problem with worrying over a fraction of a 1/2 cent. To be honest, if you start counting where every 1/2 cent goes from every transaction you make, you can find a 1/2 cent reason to boycott anyone. You can also find a 1/2 cent reason to love any brand. It just becomes so insignifigant at that level.

So as long as you are looking for somewhere to spend your $10 for lunch, here are some *signfiigant* things to consider when choosing.

1) Serving healthy food VS. poisoning an already obese and unhealthy generation
2) Recycling, conserving, and redeveloping VS. being wasteful, irresponsible, and killing the earth
3) Contributing to local schools and community VS. squandering, to buy another beach house
The list goes on...

Your decision on where to spend your $10 may not lead you to Chick-fil-A, and I'm fine with that! But at least you will be making a decision based on facts, and tangible issues that shape the health of our obese nation and sustainability of our Earth - rather than a decision based on 'avoiding a restaurant', over fraction of a 1/2 cent, that you would never be able to actually track.

Please let me know your thoughts!! You are likely reading this, because we are friends, and I want it to stay that way. Please don't continue the slander without giving me a chance to explain the truth to you. I am confident that if you spent one day around me at my store, you would find 100 reasons to LOVE Chick-fil-A that would far overshadow the fraction of the 1/2 cent that you might be worried about. But lets talk about it first.

Thank you for your time, it means a lot to me that you took the time to make it through the whole letter.
Thanks for being a friend :)
 
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salutethehill said:
Chicago alderman wants to block Chick-fil-A from opening in his ward - Chicago Tribune

Boston mayor vows to keep Chick-fil-A out of city - Boston.com

Opponents can't stomach Chick-fil-A's plans in Mountain View - San Jose Mercury News
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Insane - all the guy said was that he was against gay marriage; not gay people just gay marriage.

They give some money to organizations that support gay marriage.

Hell, how many organizations give money to United Way? United Way gives money to Planned Parenthood so I guess any business that gives to United Way supports baby murder...

(absurd I know but that's how this thing has gotten out of hand)
 
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the Chicago alderman and Boston mayor are essentially saying, "to prove how tolerant and open-minded we are, we will discriminate against a company because it's president exercised his first amendment right and espoused a view that we don't like. harrumph."
 
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allvol123 said:
The referendum is completed at the cash register. Citizens have such a problem with it then they can boycott it. This is atrocious.
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Yes. However, you can also have citizens of a local or state area come together through legislation and refuse to have a business operate within their sovereign.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Yes. However, you can also have citizens of a local or state area come together through legislation and refuse to have a business operate within their sovereign.
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Great. We will create a business culture where every owner is interviewed prior to opening a business and all his social opinions are aired prior to a referendum to decide if he can open said business. We also have to create a process for the scenario of an owner's social views changing after said business has already been up and running. Absolutely ridiculous. I fail to see where a person's freedom to spend their money as they please doesn't solve this.
 
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