China Goes Nuts Over Obama

#77
#77
Seriously though. Out of all the things to gripe over, whining over a bow is poppycock. If you think bowing is a sign of weakness, then you obviously don't understand Japanese or Asian culture at all.
 
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Voodoomonkey said:
Seriously though. Out of all the things to gripe over, whining over a bow is poppycock. If you think bowing is a sign of weakness, then you obviously don't understand Japanese or Asian culture at all.
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46 Handshakes, 1 bow

it's also custom in Japan to return the bow. Any ideas why the emperor didn't?

I realize that this is small potatoes in comparison to Obama's manifest failures in economics, national security, and ending government corruption. Little things add up though.
 
#79
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MG1968 said:
46 Handshakes, 1 bow

it's also custom in Japan to return the bow. Any ideas why the emperor didn't?

I realize that this is small potatoes in comparison to Obama's manifest failures in economics, national security, and ending government corruption. Little things add up though.
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That's not really on Obama. If the emperor doesn't want to bow, that's his prerogative. I haven't even read the whole story or seen any video or picture that shows anything beyond Obama's bow. The point is, Obama bowing means he was trying to show respect. If people really want to get down to small potatoes things like this and make them political, at least argue over something proper such as the angle of the bow or whether he should have kept his eyes up in a Bruce Lee type of bow. Now, if Obama had given a bow on his knees at the guys feet, that would be a ridiculous bow.
It would have been funny if the emperor had thrown in an Enter the Dragon reference and slapped the top of his head and told him to keep his eyes up to watch out for attackers.
 
#80
#80
Obama is an embarrassment and a failure. The world sees him the same way Nikita Kruschev viewed John F. Kennedy in the period leading up to the Cuban Missile Crisis. The difference now is that Obama will not have the stones to stand up to an aggressive move by one of America's enemies.
 
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MG1968 said:
Obama is an embarrassment and a failure. The world sees him the same way Nikita Kruschev viewed John F. Kennedy in the period leading up to the Cuban Missile Crisis.
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For the most part the world loves Obama. Really the people that dislike him are Americans who don't like his policies and our same enemies we had during the Bush administration. If anything, our traditional allies, except maybe Israel, all respect Obama more than Bush.

Not saying any of that is my opinion, but that's how other nations see him.
 
#82
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Voodoomonkey said:
For the most part the world loves Obama. Really the people that dislike him are Americans who don't like his policies and our same enemies we had during the Bush administration. If anything, our traditional allies, except maybe Israel, all respect Obama more than Bush.

Not saying any of that is my opinion, but that's how other nations see him.
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keep believing that
 
#83
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MG1968 said:
keep believing that
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Seriously, people in countries like England, Canada, Italy, India, Japan, Mexico, Australia etc... all prefer Obama over Bush.
Israel preferred Bush.
The Taliban still hates us just as much and are still plotting to attack us, bow or no bow.
Countries like China and Russia are still in the same boat as they were.

I have an eclectic group of friends in terms of nationalities and they are always telling me about how much more those countries like Obama.
I'll be the first to say that other countries loving an American president isn't always a good thing as they have different values and priorities than us, but I'm confident in the fact that many countries respect and like Obama more so than Bush.
 
#84
#84
I totally agree. If you apologize enough, everyone will like you.

His bowing to the terrorists, is what is most dangerous for America. Either he is naive to the fact, or he does not care. Starting to wonder which one it really is.
 
#85
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BeecherVol said:
I totally agree. If you apologize enough, everyone will like you.

His bowing to the terrorists, is what is most dangerous for America. Either he is naive to the fact, or he does not care. Starting to wonder which one it really is.
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As i have stated SO many times what's worse than this! I have posted this like 3 times and yet nobody wants to comment. Please democrat or republican i don't care. Please tell me how obama bowing out of respect(and if you don't like it fine but his intentions were obviously out of respect, bowing in japan is just that RESPECT) and Bush holding hands with a Saudi. If bush isn't making us look more weak with these pictures, grrrr. someone please explain it to me. Why Why Why is it such a big deal for obama but it's fine for bush
 

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VOLS INC. said:
As i have stated SO many times what's worse than this! I have posted this like 3 times and yet nobody wants to comment. Please democrat or republican i don't care. Please tell me how obama bowing out of respect(and if you don't like it fine but his intentions were obviously out of respect, bowing in japan is just that RESPECT) and Bush holding hands with a Saudi. If bush isn't making us look more weak with these pictures, grrrr. someone please explain it to me. Why Why Why is it such a big deal for obama but it's fine for bush
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Bush isn't President any more. I seem to recall much hay being made over his too-cozy-for-comfort relationship with the Saudis. Even conservatives like me were troubled by it. However, he isn't President now.

Bowing is customary in Japan, male friends holding hands is customary in Saudi Arabia. The difference between Obama bowing and Bush holding hands is that with Bush, the Saudi King reciprocated custom.

When Obama bowed to the Saudi king, there was no return bow, when he bowed to the Japanese Emperor there was no reciprocal bow. Respect and custom were only going in one direction and it wasn't being shown the US President.

Happy now?
 
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MG1968 said:
Bush isn't President any more. I seem to recall much hay being made over his too-cozy-for-comfort relationship with the Saudis. Even conservatives like me were troubled by it. However, he isn't President now.

Bowing is customary in Japan, male friends holding hands is customary in Saudi Arabia. The difference between Obama bowing and Bush holding hands is that with Bush, the Saudi King reciprocated custom.

When Obama bowed to the Saudi king, there was no return bow, when he bowed to the Japanese Emperor there was no reciprocal bow. Respect and custom were only going in one direction and it wasn't being shown the US President.

Happy now?
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Very happy, so we shouldn't be mad at obama because he was just being polite. How was he supposed to know that the emperor wouldn't bow. It's kinda like if we meet and you put your hand out to shake my hand and i don't extend my hand back, thats not your fault, your friends can't blame you right. I mean going into meeting me you had no idea that i wouldn't shake your hand. so instead of saying screw obama, we should be saying screw the emperor for not bowing back
 
#88
#88
screw Obama. The Emperor of Japan is a figurehead like the Queen of England. Did Obama bow to her? No, he didn't. What he did do was present her with an ipod full of his own inane speeches and a Jay-Z song or two.

no, I'm not giving that Marxist POS the benefit of any doubt.
 
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MG1968 said:
screw Obama. The Emperor of Japan is a figurehead like the Queen of England. Did Obama bow to her? No, he didn't. What he did do was present her with an ipod full of his own inane speeches and a Jay-Z song or two.

no, I'm not giving that Marxist POS the benefit of any doubt.
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So your saying i'm right then. Their is no way obama could have known that he wouldn't bow. If the emperor didn't want to show weakness by bowing to the american president and he wasn't going to make the first move fine. But when he saw obama bow he should have too. Hey im just using your logic from your previous post. It was ok for bush because the saudi returned the respect. the emperor didn't so he disrespected america.. LETS GET EM
 
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VOLS INC. said:
So your saying i'm right then. Their is no way obama could have known that he wouldn't bow. If the emperor didn't want to show weakness by bowing to the american president and he wasn't going to make the first move fine. But when he saw obama bow he should have too. Hey im just using your logic from your previous post. It was ok for bush because the saudi returned the respect. the emperor didn't so he disrespected america.. LETS GET EM
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Obama shouldn't have bowed in the first place. The Emperor didn't disrespect America, he was stunned that Obama placed America below Japan. He's Hirohito's son, so he should know the history of what happened when MacArthur met Hirohito to accept Japan's surrender.

I've also posted the video of all the other people who've met the Emperor. Some are heads of state, others aren't. Not one of them bowed.
 
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MG1968 said:
Obama shouldn't have bowed in the first place. The Emperor didn't disrespect America, he was stunned that Obama placed America below Japan. He's Hirohito's son, so he should know the history of what happened when MacArthur met Hirohito to accept Japan's surrender.

I've also posted the video of all the other people who've met the Emperor. Some are heads of state, others aren't. Not one of them bowed.
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dont you think the bold statement is a little silly. He bowed he didn't rank america behind japan in the UN top countries poll
 
#92
#92
I think I'm done here. Obama is a quisling and not deserving of the office he holds. I have zero respect for him and his apologists.
 

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VOLS INC. said:
Very happy, so we shouldn't be mad at obama because he was just being polite. How was he supposed to know that the emperor wouldn't bow. It's kinda like if we meet and you put your hand out to shake my hand and i don't extend my hand back, thats not your fault, your friends can't blame you right. I mean going into meeting me you had no idea that i wouldn't shake your hand. so instead of saying screw obama, we should be saying screw the emperor for not bowing back
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Since the emperor didn't bow back, Obama should have flipped him the bird :finger3: and told him to kiss his Kenyan backside.
 
#94
#94
The president should bow to no one, especially (with respect) to the Japanese emperor, a mere figurehead.

That said, I can't wait until 2010 when the Democratic Congress is broken and Pelosi and Reid fall from power. Obama will then be a lame duck that poses considerably less danger to the security of the U.S.
 
#95
#95
If Obama shouldn't care about respecting figureheads, then why did so many people ***** when he didn't give two poops about the queen of jolly ole England?
 
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VOLS INC. said:
As i have stated SO many times what's worse than this! I have posted this like 3 times and yet nobody wants to comment. Please democrat or republican i don't care. Please tell me how obama bowing out of respect(and if you don't like it fine but his intentions were obviously out of respect, bowing in japan is just that RESPECT) and Bush holding hands with a Saudi. If bush isn't making us look more weak with these pictures, grrrr. someone please explain it to me. Why Why Why is it such a big deal for obama but it's fine for bush
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Bush would not have brought terrorist on our soil (that killed thousands), and made them U.S. citizens, for their trial. He would have let the Tribunals take their course, and not give them the pleasure, if he tried them.

Barack Hussein Obama wants to apologize to them, for us defending ourself.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Bush would not have brought terrorist on our soil (that killed thousands), and made them U.S. citizens, for their trial. He would have let the Tribunals take their course, and not give them the pleasure, if he tried them.

Barack Hussein Obama wants to apologize to them, for us defending ourself.
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no your right, but he would let terrorist off our soil without a thorough investigation just like he did for the family members of bin laden that were in america. 9-11-01 they were here 9-12-01 they were questioned 9-12-01 they were gone. I'm thinking it may had been a good idea to keep them around a little longer than a few hours considering bush put 100% of the blame for 911 on bin laden. You guys don't like obama that's fine.can't say that i blame you, but please stop making reference to bush like he was a good president. Lets just drop the party lines and face it. It's been a long time since we had a average president. obama spends too much money and wants to change everything to fast. Bush was an idiot, went to war fast, and their is way too much speculation that he was corrupt for some of it not to be true. Clinton imo was a great domestic president but should of got bin laden when we had the chance.and done more with the supporting congress he had, to accomplish more in his terms as president. Nafta epic fail.Can't comment on bush sr. and reagan too much as i was too young. My point is it would be great if we could elect a president and a congress that could fix this crap and get us out of this hole were in.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
no your right, but he would let terrorist off our soil without a thorough investigation just like he did for the family members of bin laden that were in america. 9-11-01 they were here 9-12-01 they were questioned 9-12-01 they were gone. I'm thinking it may had been a good idea to keep them around a little longer than a few hours considering bush put 100% of the blame for 911 on bin laden. You guys don't like obama that's fine.can't say that i blame you, but please stop making reference to bush like he was a good president. Lets just drop the party lines and face it. It's been a long time since we had a average president. obama spends too much money and wants to change everything to fast. Bush was an idiot, went to war fast, and their is way too much speculation that he was corrupt for some of it not to be true. Clinton imo was a great domestic president but should of got bin laden when we had the chance.and done more with the supporting congress he had, to accomplish more in his terms as president. Nafta epic fail.Can't comment on bush sr. and reagan too much as i was too young. My point is it would be great if we could elect a president and a congress that could fix this crap and get us out of this hole were in.
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I agree with most everything you said, all of them have or had their faults.

IMO the presidents first job, is commander and chief.

As far as your last sentence, that is exactly the difference between you, and I. The government, is the problem (and yes even some conservatives). Im not holding my breathe for any of them to fix it. Any of them.

When it comes to the economy, they all have an agenda, Im middle class, and have dreams of owning my own business some day. With what Obama is purposing, not sure if I ever will.
 
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