China Thread

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we don't have a thread for NK but apparently they are getting hit by a bad drought and will probably need outside help.
 
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yeah they are about to finish them.
y declaring Tuesday that it would soon complete its contentious program of building artificial islands in the South China Sea, Beijing hopes to diminish tensions with the United States while reassuring its home audience that it has delivered on its pledge to resist American military pressure, experts said.
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How do you think the Kremlin RT bots will be able to rationalize a Chinese apologist Soros with a US-coup funding Soros?

Apparently he supports NGO-sanctioned coups in Eastern Europe and Russia by day, but apologizes, by night, for Chinese aggression.

So far, I've not seen pro-Russian media even mention his apology tour. Only his NGO coup attempts.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soros-us-needs-befriend-china-164811276.html

It's unfortunate that we only have our American MSM to inform us of these events.
 
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Pacer92 said:
Seven Days in May? US Global Hegemony, “Asymmetric Warfare” Directed against China | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization
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do you want me to go paragraph by paragraph or can i just sum up all the bull crap in that article? many of the points I would make I have already made in this thread. One of the reasons I made this thread and started airing out the issues with China is so the tin foil hats couldn't spout off about another coup or whatever.
 
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If any of these things were to happen, China would probably slip into recession dashing its chances of becoming the world’s biggest economy. The point here is that China’s rise is not inevitable as many people seem to think. It depends on things that China cannot completely control, like Washington’s provocations in the Spratly Islands which are designed to slow China’s growth by isolating Beijing and drawing it into a confrontation that saps its energy and depletes its resources.
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Really? A recession is going to completely derail the trajectory of a billion-person country?
 
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Intelligence Check: Just How ‘Preposterous’ Are China’s South China Sea Activities? | The Diplomat

The propaganda tactic being repeatedly used by those who see China as the only provocateur is to blur complex matters of law, dates and sequencing of events to paint China in the worst possible light. China is not blameless but the hysteria coming from the anti-China camp might be seen as laughable were it not so serious. It has been well summarized by a Chinese commentator in 2014: “Manila and its Western supporters have a rather ludicrous logic that the Philippines and Vietnam can do anything on the Nansha [Spratly] Islands and China can’t take any countermeasures.” The U.S. State Department position has consistently been relatively measured and restrained. It needs to reassert some control over PACOM’s public diplomacy.
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yes other nations are expanding islands in the area. The difference is they are generally doing it within the 200 nautical mile border of their water, and they are expanding existing islands and not creating islands from reefs.
 
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I've noticed that pro-Russian, pro-Chinese (which are difficult terms to understand), and anti-American (same thing essentially, I reckon) media like to use the term "provocation" a lot when it comes to anything the US does. I.e., "America is behaving very provocatively in its actions as China builds artificial islands from reefs and militarizes a previously de-militarized zone. Yes, America's actions here are going to provoke China into war. The question is how long will China avoid this provocation."

That's apparently the go-to term to emphasize American aggression that does or doesn't exist.

On a related note, I think I'm going to behave provocatively today.
 
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i was wondering if you taught any summer courses?

yeah its funny because most of our provocations are just us doing the same stuff we always have. We have always patrolled the South China Sea (since WWII) even a bit before back to the Spanish American war. We have always had an alliance with the Baltic States (since the became part of NATO 1992) and they are now calling in that alliance and i glad to see we are stepping up to the plate. nothing aggressive in there.
 
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LouderVol said:
i was wondering if you taught any summer courses?

yeah its funny because most of our provocations are just us doing the same stuff we always have. We have always patrolled the South China Sea (since WWII) even a bit before back to the Spanish American war. We have always had an alliance with the Baltic States (since the became part of NATO 1992) and they are now calling in that alliance and i glad to see we are stepping up to the plate. nothing aggressive in there.
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America could step up to the plate, pull it's shorts down and take a big, gigantic **** on it.....and some would still applaud it...
 
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Pacer92 said:
America could step up to the plate, pull it's shorts down and take a big, gigantic **** on it.....and some would still applaud it...
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so that means what to what I posted? God bad or indifferent America has been doing those things for a while, now all of the sudden when we say we will keep doing those things even with outside pressure its provocation?
 
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Velo Vol said:
Weird.

Hong Kong lawmakers just rejected China's 'sham' democracy plan - Business Insider
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let me see if i got this right. They were voting on the reforms to voting which would have allowed Beijing to pick who can run for office? And while doing it the pro-Beijing crowd walked out thinking that would stop the vote? and then the pro-choice (for lack of better word) were able to vote against the reforms to give Beijing more power, and now Beijing has to suck it? If that is all correct this is awesome, and hilarious. but more awesome than anything. adds an interesting wrinkle to what will happen over there. good job CIA! we have the pro-Beijingers working for us. (all of this is on the assumption that my assumption was correct)
 
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LouderVol said:
let me see if i got this right.
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This doesn't get into the CIA vote plot, but it does a better job of painting the bigger picture.

Hong Kong parliament defies Beijing's insistence and rejects 'democracy' plan | World news | The Guardian

“What we are seeing is a very artificial calm. There is a lot boiling under the surface and it is really hard to say what is going to ignite the next bomb. Hong Kong people’s frustrations could explode again at any time.”
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NPR reported today that China has officially installed all Tibetan monasteries with cable/satellite capability.

The first impulse of an American would be "Woo-hoo! You go Tibet! And you go China!"

But a China does not a typical American life make.

The actual purpose is to install Chinese media propaganda sources to keep Tibet down.

We're just not quite wired to think of these things in America, because we actually value or citizens' freedoms.

But hopefully China will liberate us and give us our true freedom.
 
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