Chip Brown report: Texas A&M to the SEC

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robvols said:
This is starting to get scary, but what would the SEC change its name to if it does expand westward? Is the BIG SOUTH taken yet?
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SCC Sounds similar and stands for Southeastern Confederate Conference.
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welcome A&M Now its time to get Missouri and thats the 2 west adds and go get a couble schools from ACC or big east to slot in our eastern division. whether thats Maryland, W. Virginia, Duke, N. carolina, louisville or whoever lets get it taken care of. the anticipation is killing me.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
welcome A&M Now its time to get Missouri and thats the 2 west adds and go get a couble schools from ACC or big east to slot in our eastern division. whether thats Maryland, W. Virginia, Duke, N. carolina, louisville or whoever lets get it taken care of. the anticipation is killing me.
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How about a north,south, east, west division?
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The South Atlantic Coast Blue Grass Mid-Southern Gulf States East Texas Conf.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Which is exactly what adding a B lister like A&M is.
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Yep
..hatvol says unlv is a worse basketball program than San Diego state and that the aggies 8 billion dollar endowment is a joke
...what a crap school
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golfballs03 said:
what is the guy's point?
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Basic argument is that the B12 and B10 are in it together with Texas to expand and that A&M and Slive are the only thing keeping them from closing the deal. Main goal, no expansion for the SEC westward.
 
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I read it and it does make sense as far as a conspiracy is concerned. ABC and ESPN could easily be driving this agenda. If there is any truth to this then Slive's neck could easily be on the line if he makes some bad moves here. It looks like he is making an end run with A&M, but he had better be pushing as hard as possible to pull OU into the SEC also.

I do think that if there is some kind of evidence that this is fact going on then the SEC should start having congressional leaders to look into anti-trust activities between the networks and the Big Ten and Pac-10. It appears that the networks can control both operations of the SEC through contracts and our competition through collusion.
 
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onevol74 said:
I read it and it does make sense as far as a conspiracy is concerned. ABC and ESPN could easily be driving this agenda. If there is any truth to this then Slive's neck could easily be on the line if he makes some bad moves here. It looks like he is making an end run with A&M, but he had better be pushing as hard as possible to pull OU into the SEC also.

I do think that if there is some kind of evidence that this is fact going on then the SEC should start having congressional leaders to look into anti-trust activities between the networks and the Big Ten and Pac-10. It appears that the networks can control both operations of the SEC through contracts and our competition through collusion.
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Congress should stick to more important issues, such as BP's incompetence.
 
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I have been a little curious why every single early leak about all of this has come from a Texas Rivals site. Even things about Nebraska and Colorado, all courtesy of Texas. The Fox network owning 49% of the Big Ten Network, and the new PAC2many going down the same path, all of that seems fishy.
 
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Sorry to keep posting, but my greatest fear when all of this started was that Nebraska, Texas, OU and ND would join the Big Ten...This is even bigger because they'd be locking down territory all the way to the west coast.
 
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vol66 said:
Sorry to keep posting, but my greatest fear when all of this started was that Nebraska, Texas, OU and ND would join the Big Ten...This is even bigger because they'd be locking down territory all the way to the west coast.
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I know you have a serious concern and I am not being completely facetious when I suggest the SEC could go after A&M, New Mexico, Northern Arizona and Fresno St or Nevada. I really just say it for the sake of thinking out side the box.
 
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NMVol said:
I know you have a serious concern and I am not being completely facetious when I suggest the SEC could go after A&M, New Mexico, Northern Arizona and Fresno St or Nevada. I really just say it for the sake of thinking out side the box.
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are you kidding? I think we should get Hawaii, Alaska-Anchorage, Miami, and University of Maine, and call it quits at 16. Then we would have all corners of the country locked down!
 
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PSA: The SEC has been dominating the Big10, the Big12, and the Pac10 in BCS bowl games. Our conference has won the last four national championships.

It doesn't matter how many teams they add, how many regions they span, or how many networks they create. Nobody can seriously call themselves a national champion until they've gone through the SEC champ - no matter how much conspiring and colluding goes on. ESPN and CBS will still recognize that the product we put on the field is superior, and we will continue to get $$$$ tv contracts from them.

I'd love to see us add A&M and OU and thwart whatever plans they have, but if things don't work out, SEC>>>whatever else the rest of the country comes up with.
 
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golfballs03 said:
are you kidding? I think we should get Hawaii, Alaska-Anchorage, Miami, and University of Maine, and call it quits at 16. Then we would have all corners of the country locked down!
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Not at all. These are all in a southern tier of the US, sun-belt, growth corridor schools, mostly accessible on 1-40. It would counteract any effort to stop the SEC at Ark & La and push toward a contiguous expansion.

Edit: I'll grant you the market share in Flagstaff is a challenge, but its a great area.
 
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NMVol said:
I know you have a serious concern and I am not being completely facetious when I suggest the SEC could go after A&M, New Mexico, Northern Arizona and Fresno St or Nevada. I really just say it for the sake of thinking out side the box.
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As I stated my initial concern was some sort of Big 10 - Big 12 alliance with Notre Dame. Why? Because if you look at BCS ratings(www.BCS.org)? or google Nielsen ratings for SEC football, it becomes evident that the SEC is #1 and the other two conferences are 2 and 3. you combine them plus their markets and they WILL be # 1.

The only thing that could be better is for the big markets in the Big 12, and Big 10 combine with the big markets in the Pac 10 and the three of them enter into a tv contract with the same co. FOX. The schools you mention are fine and dandy except in the grand scheme, from a tv point of view, respectfully, don't matter in that scenario.
 
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vol66 said:
As I stated my initial concern was some sort of Big 10 - Big 12 alliance with Notre Dame. Why? Because if you look at BCS ratings(www.BCS.org)? or google Nielsen ratings for SEC football, it becomes evident that the SEC is #1 and the other two conferences are 2 and 3. you combine them plus their markets and they WILL be # 1.

The only thing that could be better is for the big markets in the Big 12, and Big 10 combine with the big markets in the Pac 10 and the three of them enter into a tv contract with the same co. FOX. The schools you mention are fine and dandy except in the grand scheme, from a tv point of view, respectfully, don't matter in that scenario.
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I hear you, but the winner is going to have to play on some speculation and I am just suggesting looking at sub belt growth. The Mountain West is coming on. There is a way to parlay the Arkansas addition with contiguous territories understanding that demographics change.

Edit: An A & M, Oklahoma, Air Force, Missouri expansion might be interesting as well. Again just thinking outside the box.
 
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sammyjoey said:
PSA: The SEC has been dominating the Big10, the Big12, and the Pac10 in BCS bowl games. Our conference has won the last four national championships.

It doesn't matter how many teams they add, how many regions they span, or how many networks they create. Nobody can seriously call themselves a national champion until they've gone through the SEC champ - no matter how much conspiring and colluding goes on. ESPN and CBS will still recognize that the product we put on the field is superior, and we will continue to get $$$$ tv contracts from them.

I'd love to see us add A&M and OU and thwart whatever plans they have, but if things don't work out, SEC>>>whatever else the rest of the country comes up with.
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If it has to happen, break it up with TAMU/OU and stop there. If you have a Pac-16, major media outlets in the respective markets will cover those teams on that circuit. When it comes to the polls, those writers/coaches/voters will favor teams in that megaconference. It will have an effect.

If they get a super deal for broadcasting rights, they will be able to outspend us on facility upgrades, etc.

If recruits no longer feel that the SEC is the top conference, we will not be able to get as many high quality players from outside the region. They will stay at home. One of the biggest draws from high profile recruits is that they want to play in the top conference.

All that could change. It's a big deal. I hope none of it happens.
 
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I mean no disrespect...this is media driven...I have posted many times that I didn't think there was any real reason to be worried about Texas and OU joining with the left coast because, quite frankly(no offense Droski) I didn't think you could "lead the horse to water". It doesn't matter. If you own all the GIANT media markets, you shape perception. The perception now is the SEC is the best football conference, what happens if every major media market decides we aren't?
 
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