Class Numbers discussion

[jakez4ut]

And Solomon is included in the class numbers that we have seen I think

well, if he is, then he's already been counted....so it's a moot point....lol.

 

[BruinVol]

well, if he is, then he's already been counted....so it's a moot point....lol.

No not what I am saying. If he doesn’t count it adds one more spot. If he’s counted already a few other walk ons have to count and that isn’t happening imo.
Solomon gives us another spot the same as McBride is my bet

 

[jakez4ut]

No not what I am saying. If he doesn’t count it adds one more spot. If he’s counted already a few other walk ons have to count and that isn’t happening imo

ok, now you've confused me even more. lol.

i don't think the walk ons, true walk ons, count in the IQ numbers, just the 85 man roster. so class size is only dependent on walk ons if it affects the overall roster number to the point where you don't have room there.

if a kid signed and LOI, and walks on, that LOI makes him an iq, if i'm not mistaken, and that he walked on doesn't mean you get that iq spot back. it counts.

so................what were we talking about again?

 

[butchna]

What about the guy we thought signed but was a walk on until Christmas?

Has to add one most spot imo

If you’re referencing Kenney Solomon, he was a walk on and was awarded a scholarship before Christmas but that came off the 85 not 25...and one of the reasons you’re going to pay $100 of one of my future electric bills.

 

[BruinVol]

If you’re referencing Kenney Solomon, he was a walk on and was awarded a scholarship before Christmas but that came off the 85 not 25...and one of the reasons you’re going to pay $100 of one of my future electric bills.

More than him
Going to stay on scholarship for you to get that 100$. Counting to 85 is going to hurt your wallet


But the point is Solomon is counted in the class numbers the same as McBride.
We get both of those back imo

 

[BruinVol]

ok, now you've confused me even more. lol.

i don't think the walk ons, true walk ons, count in the IQ numbers, just the 85 man roster. so class size is only dependent on walk ons if it affects the overall roster number to the point where you don't have room there.

if a kid signed and LOI, and walks on, that LOI makes him an iq, if i'm not mistaken, and that he walked on doesn't mean you get that iq spot back. it counts.

so................what were we talking about again?

lol.
Solomon is counted here. He was a walk on so he shouldn’t be included toward the 25


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[butchna]

ok, now you've confused me even more. lol.

i don't think the walk ons, true walk ons, count in the IQ numbers, just the 85 man roster. so class size is only dependent on walk ons if it affects the overall roster number to the point where you don't have room there.

if a kid signed and LOI, and walks on, that LOI makes him an iq, if i'm not mistaken, and that he walked on doesn't mean you get that iq spot back. it counts.

so................what were we talking about again?

It’s intentional obtuse Bruin in full effect. He believes that Hubbs told him personally that we award football scholarships for semesters and then yank em back like crazy people. It happened recently in BASKETBALL when Barnes gave a RS junior walk on a scholarship for the remaining semester of school. He’s not expected to come back for a fifth year and it’s immaterial because basketball number are tight. We see these videos of football players and their moms getting scholarships in their 2nd or 3rd year. All the tears and thank you’s and praises of God for reward of all their hard work and now they don’t have the burden of tuition. Never see any of them on Twitter or other social media dog cussing the SOB HC for yanking it back...there’s a reason...can’t walk that back. No examples because there are none. And I’ve asked Hubbs and Bruin both to no avail. Hubbs tbf prolly has no idea what I’m asking because it’s Bruin’s conjuring.

 

[BruinVol]

It’s intentional obtuse Bruin in full effect. He believes that Hubbs told him personally that we award football scholarships for semesters and then yank em back like crazy people. It happened recently in BASKETBALL when Barnes gave a RS junior walk on a scholarship for the remaining semester of school. He’s not expected to come back for a fifth year and it’s immaterial because basketball number are tight. We see these videos of football players and their moms getting scholarships in their 2nd or 3rd year. All the tears and thank you’s and praises of God for reward of all their hard work and now they don’t have the burden of tuition. Never see any of them on Twitter or other social media dog cussing the SOB HC for yanking it back...there’s a reason...can’t walk that back. No examples because there are none. And I’ve asked Hubbs and Bruin both to no avail. Hubbs tbf prolly has no idea what I’m asking because it’s Bruin’s conjuring.

Seriously that isn’t the subject at all
So just leave that alone

we are discussing the numbers and you are saying McBride May get us a spot back and I am saying Solomon does as well. I think you will agree with that after thinking about it.

the other topic is irrelevant for this topic

 

[jakez4ut]

It’s intentional obtuse Bruin in full effect. He believes that Hubbs told him personally that we award football scholarships for semesters and then yank em back like crazy people. It happened recently in BASKETBALL when Barnes gave a RS junior walk on a scholarship for the remaining semester of school. He’s not expected to come back for a fifth year and it’s immaterial because basketball number are tight. We see these videos of football players and their moms getting scholarships in their 2nd or 3rd year. All the tears and thank you’s and praises of God for reward of all their hard work and now they don’t have the burden of tuition. Never see any of them on Twitter or other social media dog cussing the SOB HC for yanking it back...there’s a reason...can’t walk that back. No examples because there are none. And I’ve asked Hubbs and Bruin both to no avail. Hubbs tbf prolly has no idea what I’m asking because it’s Bruin’s conjuring.

lol...that seems fair....

 

[butchna]

More than him
Going to stay on scholarship for you to get that 100$. Counting to 85 is going to hurt your wallet


But the point is Solomon is counted in the class numbers the same as McBride.
We get both of those back imo

Still on Bruh! And no he’s not...nor is Garland...or the WR...nor the fourth guy. When you’re awarded a scholarship AFTER you walk on? It comes off the 85. Why don’t you know stuff by now?

 

[jakez4ut]

Seriously that isn’t the subject at all
So just leave that alone

we are discussing the numbers and you are saying McBride May get us a spot back and I am saying Solomon does as well. I think you will agree with that after thinking about it.

the other topic is irrelevant for this topic

either way, we don't get solomon's iq spot back. he was counted....he counts since he signed.....

 

[BruinVol]

When you’re awarded a scholarship AFTER you walk on? It comes off the 85.

Agreed

 

[BruinVol]

either way, we don't get solomon's iq spot back. he was counted....he counts since he signed.....

We don’t know he signed. If he signed he didn’t get a scholarship so isn’t the 25 rule just about initial counters anyway ?

 

[jakez4ut]

We don’t know he signed. If he signed he didn’t get a scholarship so isn’t the 25 rule just about initial counters anyway ?

the iq's are signees. did they or didn't they sign an NLI? if yes, they count, period.

that's why when a kid signs, and then fails to qualify academically, it's a big deal. you don't get the player cause he can't get it...and you lose that spot int he class.

one of the reasons you see schools maybe slow play a kid with grade concerns.....

 

[butchna]

Seriously that isn’t the subject at all
So just leave that alone

we are discussing the numbers and you are saying McBride May get us a spot back and I am saying Solomon does as well. I think you will agree with that after thinking about it.

the other topic is irrelevant for this topic

Solomon was a walkon who got awarded a scholarship...which comes off the 85. Same as the QB Hill when he gets his. There’s nothing TO GET BACK. McBride’s medical retirement before he participated in football activities may get us his initial counter back. It’s happened at Bama and UGA recently and I remember when Harbaugh slapped a medical retirement on Matt Falcon against his will. These situations have NOTHING to do with each other and it’s your contrarian genes that won’t allow you peace. The $100 will rehabilitation.

 

[BruinVol]

the iq's are signees. did they or didn't they sign an NLI? if yes, they count, period.

that's why when a kid signs, and then fails to qualify academically, it's a big deal. you don't get the player cause he can't get it...and you lose that spot int he class.

one of the reasons you see schools maybe slow play a kid with grade concerns.....

Good point on failed to qualify guys

but To my point we don’t know if Solomon signed. Since he was a walk on for a semester I’d bet my ass he didn’t sign an NLI

 

[BruinVol]

Solomon was a walkon who got awarded a scholarship...which comes off the 85. Same as the QB Hill when he gets his. here’s nothing TO GET BACK. McBride’s medical retirement before he participated in football activities may get us his initial counter back.

@butchna I agree with you but when it comes to the math we do here we have been counting Solomon all along as one of the 25 for the 2019 class.
So in that case he wasnt one so we “get that spot back”
the same was we have been counting McBride

 

[jakez4ut]

Good point on failed to qualify

but To my point we don’t know if Solomon signed. Since he was a walk on for a semester I’d bet my ass he didn’t sign an NLI

honestly, i don't really care at this point. all that matter is, if he did, he's already been counted, and not part of the conversation. if he didn't sign, he's not included in the class iq's, so no IQ spot to begin with, thus no spot to get back.

so either way, it doesn't matter. lol.

 

[butchna]

We don’t know he signed. If he signed he didn’t get a scholarship so isn’t the 25 rule just about initial counters anyway ?

You can sign a letter of intent as a PWO...most do. You’re only allowed 25 initial counters per academic year iirc but that gets skirted by EE’s and is never an issue. Lot of ways to skin a cat.

 

[BruinVol]

You can sign a letter of intent as a PWO...most do. You’re only allowed 25 initial counters per academic year iirc but that gets skirted by EE’s and is never an issue. Lot of ways to skin a cat.

you can’t sign an NLI as a walk on. You can sign an institutional letter of intent but that has nothing to do with the NCAA

 

[BruinVol]

if he didn't sign, he's not included in the class iq's, so no IQ spot to begin with, thus no spot back .

We aren’t following each other.

The key is how many ICs were taken in 2019.
if Solomon wasn’t one of them
That helps us this year


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[butchna]

@butchna I agree with you but when it comes to the math we do here we have been counting Solomon all along as one of the 25 for the 2019 class.
So in that case he wasnt one so we “get that spot back”
the same was we have been counting McBride

No we didn’t. We had 23 scholarships available due to previous blueshirting. Jerrod Means was the 21st to get a scholarship. Solomon signed but as we found out it was as a PWO...otherwise he wouldn’t have needed to be AWARDED A SCHOLARSHIP. PWO’s don’t take up INITIAL COUNTERS. So Means made 21 and we added AUBREY Solomon and Gibbs to complete the 23 that we had available. Perfectly plausible that the original plan was to give Kenney Solomon a full ride from the beginning, but these two became available and the staff was still awaiting Anthony Harris’s academic status...he ended up Juco. You’re a victim of your own fallacy that walk-ons take up initial counters...but they don’t.

 

[butchna]

you can’t sign an NLI as a walk on. You can sign an institutional letter of intent but that has nothing to do with the NCAA

Ok that’s what he signed then. You ok now Columbo?

 

[butchna]

We aren’t following each other.

The key is how many ICs were taken in 2019.
if Solomon wasn’t one of them
That helps us this year


Tennessee 2019 Football Commits

It has NO EFFECT. He didn’t take up an initial counter...because he was a WALK ON.

 

[butchna]

honestly, i don't really care at this point. all that matter is, if he did, he's already been counted, and not part of the conversation. if he didn't sign, he's not included in the class iq's, so no IQ spot to begin with, thus no spot to get back.

so either way, it doesn't matter. lol.

It matters to ME (and only me) damn it!
- Bruin prolly