Classless Punk

#76
#76
I've never said bray was a classless punk but I've said he's a pampered participation trophy punk and he acts like it on the field. If you can't see it and the problem it causes then that's your problem. So he's nice to kids??? Doesn't mean he isn't a punk on the field and disrespectful to others his age or his elders. Am I the only one that saw him stare over at the Vandy bench after his first score?? And he wasn't able to back it up. Many students on here have said he is a punk and takes advantage of the "big man on campus" status.

Yes I'd tell it to him directly and his parents. Of course I wouldn't just walk up to them and say it cause that's just stupid. But if we were to get into a conversation and it fit the convo then I wouldn't be scared at all to tell them how he is perceived by me and many. I'm sure they wouldn't like it but I can care less.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
Nice story. Tyler played like crap but without him, it's obvious we wouldn't have won a single game all year long.
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Obvious? We wouldn't have won a game all year? Man... what will we ever do when he leaves?:cray:
 
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CMcEver said:
What did the defense say?
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Yeah in a way that's kind of a prick move. He knows the D isn't going to do it on there own with no help. The D played hard all year. They just couldnt get it together. This season was put on his shoulders and he failed. Cdd was forced to do that and it was what took him down. Bray had to score a lot but the d gave him times to seal the deal and the O didn't. How many interceptions or fumbles did the O have in solid scoring position. How many times did the D go out and get the ball back for them and the O didn't put the game away. Happened multiple times vs Troy and Mizzou.

If he's going to put it on the D he needed to play better than he did on sat cause he literally looked so bad it's hard not to at least wonder if he threw the game. He's to seasoned to play THAT bad. Just IMHO that's all..
 
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Bray is not a punk, he is not a NFL QB as a lot on here think a very good college QB not top rate NFL QB PROSPECT.
 
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Oskie Volum said:
Yeah in a way that's kind of a prick move. He knows the D isn't going to do it on there own with no help. The D played hard all year. They just couldnt get it together. This season was put on his shoulders and he failed. Cdd was forced to do that and it was what took him down. Bray had to score a lot but the d gave him times to seal the deal and the O didn't. How many interceptions or fumbles did the O have in solid scoring position. How many times did the D go out and get the ball back for them and the O didn't put the game away. Happened multiple times vs Troy and Mizzou.

If he's going to put it on the D he needed to play better than he did on sat cause he literally looked so bad it's hard not to at least wonder if he threw the game. He's to seasoned to play THAT bad. Just IMHO that's all..
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Tyler Bray against Troy: 29-47 for 530 yards
Tyler Bray against Missouri: 38-55 for 432 yards

UT defense against Troy:Gave up 496 passing and 225 rushing.
UT defense against Missouri: Gave up 226 passing and 228 rushing.

Please tell me how any of the fault can go on Bray those 2 games? He and the offense put up 106 points in 2 games and the Tennessee defense gave up 96 points. One of those opponents was Troy! Troy! And again, one of them was Troy!
 
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#83
It's amazing the things people will say when they are sitting at a computer and keyboard. Thanks for reposting OP.
 
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Hayezb said:
Tyler Bray against Troy: 29-47 for 530 yards
Tyler Bray against Missouri: 38-55 for 432 yards

UT defense against Troy:Gave up 496 passing and 225 rushing.
UT defense against Missouri: Gave up 226 passing and 228 rushing.

Please tell me how any of the fault can go on Bray those 2 games? He and the offense put up 106 points in 2 games and the Tennessee defense gave up 96 points. One of those opponents was Troy! Troy! And again, one of them was Troy!
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Seriously??? Did you not comprehend what I said?? My comment has nothing to do with the #s. I'm fully aware of the #s he put up. I said that there were multiple drives at the end of those games the O could have put the game away and they failed to. Simple. Iirc the D stopped mizzous O in 2 consecutive drives in the 4th where we were up 28-21 and the O (which bray leads) didn't put the game way by scoring.

That's the issue here not the D. He was fully aware of the fact tha the D wasn't able to hold off much, and he simply didn't do the job to seal up the wins. When the D got them the ball back multiple times this yr with hard fought stops he and the O simply failed to put the game away. Happened in the FL game after the D stopped the fake punt and gave us the momentum. It's the story of the season no one wants to accept.
 
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tenmanjonez said:
I remember this EXACT story happening 2 years ago. I mean, to the T. Not sure if it's old, or if someone is just making up that they saw it recently or what. I know that this was posted at least 2 years ago, while Tyler was a Frosh.

FTR, I like Tyler. I think he's been given a really tough job, and had super high expectations, and has met most of those expectations. In reality, he looks like a "choker" because he has to put up 50 a game to win, and when he's driving for his 5th TD of the game, mistakes happen because no one is fooled by what we are going to do.

There's no doubt that he had a bad game against vandy, but the whole damn team was out of it, not just Tyler. They are grown men, and just because 1 guy acts out of it, does NOT give them a reason to act like it as well. We have a team of followers, when we need a team of leaders.
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Why is your avatar blue?
 
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sjt18 said:
He's had the same number of opportunities to be the difference in a "big win" as Dooley had. Both failed. One has been fired. Maybe Bray can turn the corner... but I fear he won't get there at UT based on the last 3 years.
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Once again...Crompton 2009 vs. Crompton 2008. With the right coaching, Bray could be scary-good. He's pretty durn good as it is. Not that Chaney was a horrible QB coach, but it's true Bray still has some growing up to do. I think he can....
 
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#88
I think Bray is simply undisciplined, which is a relection on the head Coach, with a good head coach Bray could fill that potential. I think he's already scary good in that he has so such raw natural talent but without discipline and good technique he won't amount to much more then a back up QB in the NFL. I'm excited to see what a new coach will bring to the equation, that is if Bray sticks around. I can see why people don't like him but I can see why love him. I tend to lean toward liking him due to all the potential he has I just wish he would maintain some self discipline.
 
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knoxtnguy said:
I don't really care if I do. And You're right! Kinda hard to find out on another continent! For the record I'm not bashing him. You said people should say it to his face (because you think they should be scared of him). I'm saying he's not scary. Whats the big deal?
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I didn't tell you to say it to his face. I just said you wouldn't. I stand by that.
 
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Oskie Volum said:
Seriously??? Did you not comprehend what I said?? My comment has nothing to do with the #s. I'm fully aware of the #s he put up. I said that there were multiple drives at the end of those games the O could have put the game away and they failed to. Simple. Iirc the D stopped mizzous O in 2 consecutive drives in the 4th where we were up 28-21 and the O (which bray leads) didn't put the game way by scoring.

That's the issue here not the D. He was fully aware of the fact tha the D wasn't able to hold off much, and he simply didn't do the job to seal up the wins. When the D got them the ball back multiple times this yr with hard fought stops he and the O simply failed to put the game away. Happened in the FL game after the D stopped the fake punt and gave us the momentum. It's the story of the season no one wants to accept.
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Just stop. Seriously. You don't even know what point you're trying to make anymore. Blaming Bray for the worst defense in UT history is beyond dumb.

And btw, don't tell someone they must not have been watching the season when you just straight up ignore Bray's effots vs. Troy, Mizzou, Georgia, and Miss. St.
 
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Bray did a great job considering he had no coaching. He had to face some of the SEC's best defenses and when he looked to the sideline needing help, he had Dooley. I would have been frustrated too.
 
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#94
we understand the difference between tyler as a person and his persona as an athlete. as an athlete you enter yourself into the public forum, as a public figure, to scrutiny.

tyler opens himself up by the way he carries himself on and off the field to said scrutiny. If peyton had thrown water on fans, thrown beer bottles, slashed throat, yelled at coaches, shown no fight when down, gotten ticket for reckless boating we would have done the same. but, he didnt.

leadership qualities take work. respect is earned.

The amazing thing about society and public forum is that u can be tried, found guilty and can reinvent yourself.

Good for Tyler. I think this team will be better with him than without him. we need him. he needs TN. i cant wait to see what he can do when mature and with a defense!
 
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ugahater1 said:
we understand the difference between tyler as a person and his persona as an athlete. as an athlete you enter yourself into the public forum, as a public figure, to scrutiny.

tyler opens himself up by the way he carries himself on and off the field to said scrutiny. If peyton had thrown water on fans, thrown beer bottles, slashed throat, yelled at coaches, shown no fight when down, gotten ticket for reckless boating we would have done the same. but, he didnt.

leadership qualities take work. respect is earned.

The amazing thing about society and public forum is that u can be tried, found guilty and can reinvent yourself.

Good for Tyler. I think this team will be better with him than without him. we need him. he needs TN. i cant wait to see what he can do when mature and with a defense!
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Peyton t-bagged a chick.
 
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sjt18 said:
As far as I know, Dooley always conducted himself with class. People (I am pretty sure including you) blamed everything on him. Did/does he deserve better?
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Yes, I'm convinced there was a deliberate smear campaign against CDD in order to get the fanbase behind the coaching change. I did not agree with everything he did and said over the past 3 years, but I'm not buying into all the stories about him being a jerk to everyone he met. Was he a jerk to some? Given the high stress nature of the job, the various challenges of managing 100 or so 18-22 year olds, I would think any of us would have our share of douche moments. But, evidently, the biggest character judges (recruits parents) found him to be a good man and a majority of the players seem to respect him, so I tend to think he's gotten a lot of really bad press lately and deserves a bit more respect for those successes he had over the past 3 years.

I think, like Bray, Dooley suffered from a lack of innate leadership abilities. He knows how to be in charge, but doesn't know how to lead. I formed this opinion based on the number of disparate motivational ploys that he used which did not have a central, unifying theme. I could not tell from watching the team's development over time, just what his vision was for the team and how he was trying to get everyone on track to accomplish that vision. I think he was often surprised by the results because the coordinators were trying things that may have gone against what he thought they should be doing. In other words, he either did not have a vision for the team, so they were doing their own thing, or he had a vision but they didn't buy into it and he didn't get them in line. Either way, this lack of leadership led to historically bad problems on the field and rightfully cost CDD his job.

The good thing is Bray has the chance to recover if the right coach is brought in who can teach him how to be a leader within his own style and comfort zone. If that happens and he is able to lead the team effectively, while also applying his tremendous talent as a QB, it could be a very good thing for him and Tennessee.
 
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