Classy morals

[ric1958]

Kiffie won 7 games.
Dooley 6, 5 and so far 4.

15 is more than 7 . And Kiffin inflicted more harm to the program than Dooley.

 

[fade route]

I sure wish people would stop saying Dooley has stabilized the program. The program is in the crapper and we're really no better off than we were before he took over. In fact, we may be worse off. Dooley's not a bad guy, but the notion that we should be grateful that Dooley simply took the job nobody wanted and "tried hard" is laughable. Let him have his 5 million and go quietly into the night.



BTW - being grateful for mediocrity dosn't make you a more "moral" person.

 

[volswin08]

what? i do own a business with 272 employees spread over 18 states. YOU ARE CLUELESS. you call him in and tell him face to face man to man. we paid you handsomely and gave you a shot at running our company. you didn't get it done. here is a parting check. see ya! this is the real world not some make believe business prototype in your mind. GEEZ

and, you're on here at 9:00 AM on a Friday..what's the nature of your business? imp_2: ?

 

[deckerkd]

Childish immature haters will always be haters and that will never change because it's just who they are.

Haters will always hate no matter what because hating is the only thing they do well.

It's pathetic and sad but it's what these type of people freely CHOOSE to be and they enjoy being haters.

Sadly, most will remain this type of person all their lives because early on they chose this lifestyle and have fallen into a pattern and attitude that most will remain too weak to change for the better.

They CHOOSE to never even look for any good in any person or situation and to always look for the negative things so they can hate on it more and more in a never ending childish, hateful rant and they actually enjoy it.

Most will never become happy or successful in business or in their personal lives so they'll hate even more and will hate the most on good, decent, hard working people that are happy and successful because they chose to find good and positive things and to work hard at building a positive happy life for themselves and that just makes the haters jealous which builds more hate in them.

It's the difference in the positive minded and the negative minded and we all know which type of people find more happiness and success in their lives.

Psychiatrists have studied and worked with this type of people for many decades and the positive minded, successful people have written numerous books and taught numerous seminars on this subject but just STOP trying to help these negative minded haters because they CHOOSE to live this way and will never read a book, attend a seminar or do anything positive for their own lives because the pattern was set by themselves early on and we all know that making good, positive changes in our lives is a very hard thing to do after we've set ourselves into really bad habits like smoking, drinking, drugs or nonstop hating and being abusive.

It's very sad indeed but people will choose to become and live how they want to live.

CDD has done some good things and helped rebuild our program the best he can and I'll say THANK YOU to him and his family for coming to K town to try and make things better for our kids, our program and we fans.

He tried the best he could and it didn't work in the time that was given to him.

He may have found success if given more time but none of us know that for certain because this is the instant gratification age where everyone wants everything right now.

Years from now CDD may build another program into a National Championship winning team or he may always be a middle of the road coach but nobody here knows for certain which it will be.

If he wins a crystal football with another program we'll all feel really stupid for not giving him more time and if he's always a middle of the road coach we'll all be glad he went elsewhere and only time will tell the rest of the story.

CDD was a Millionaire before he even got to La. Tech so money isn't why he chose to coach...He loves football and trying to help young high school kids become great football players and to try and teach and mold them into also becoming great men on or off of the field.

I wish him and his family all the best in the future and I thank him for his time and efforts to attempt to make my beloved Vols football program better as a program than what it was when he first walked in the door.

At least we don't have any NCAA investigations going on like we had when CDD got here.

VFL...GBO!!!

It's very interesting that this comment attaches haters and success. There has been no success nor any progress at Tennessee under Dooley. Lets say this is a business, which it is, I would like to know what criteria you would use before you called it a failure. For your sake lets take out wins and losses. Then would you consider coach Dooley a success here. By no means would you or could you. What you are trying to do is to label any one who recognizes that Dooley has been a terrible and historical failure a negative minded person. When they are simply realistic and expressing their opinion. In business, which I have been in upper management for some time now, it's our job to recognize bottlenecks or troubled areas and devise corrective action so as to continue improvement on the product flow process. However, if one does not have the ability to recognize obvious problems and solve those problems, he will quickly be replaced. That is simply the case here. One of the issues here is that the problem has been allowed to exist to the point of ruins and nothing has been done. In the real world, we are not afforded the same luxury as Dooley has been without producing results. In short, being positive is a good thing indeed and I am certainly positive that it is time to replace Dooley. Furthermore, I am positive that this program has suffered enough and is ready for real tangible progress, something it has absolutely not seen under the tenure of Derrick Dooley!

 

[sjt18]

for all the good he has done,it's hard to not see the bad also. He ran off past Vols because they didn't call ahead. why?

Why? Are you kidding? When you are dealing with a disaster scene you don't just let people you don't know stand around and watch.

This is probably THE most overblown criticism of all the ridiculous ways people have found to nitpick the guy. After Kiffin, he showed the utmost respect for UT's traditions and history.

He simply could not get it done on gameday. Why do you feel compelled to make it any more than that?

He has thrown assistants and players under the bus in front of the media.

No. He hasn't. That is your hater bias again trying to find ways to condemn him. He has been honest about the good and bad from the very start. That isn't "throwing people under the bus". He has actually been very reserved when it comes to guys like Bray and various defenders. It isn't like everyone who watched the games didn't see the mistakes. Should he really say "I made a mistake" when Bray fails to read a D properly... or Hunter drops another one... or CP runs the wrong route... or someone misses a hole, a tackle, a block, etc?

You just want to blame everything on Dooley so any explanation he gives that casts a shadow on other people is "throwing people under the bus" to you. But all it really is is honesty.

Anyone who is a player or coach at a high profile program has to put their big boy pants on.

He continues to blame "not the right fit" for defense .He waited till game 10 to focus on Defense. He continues to tell the media he didn't have confidence in our offense with 32 sec and 2 time outs. Wasted Time outs, continues to panic on 3rd down instead of just going after the first down, admitted to calling some of the long pass plays on 3rd and short.

He made bad calls. He acknowledges he made bad calls. Those calls will cost him his job. So what exactly is your point?

Recruiting is horrible.

Recruiting has been good the first three years and was very good before the season fell apart. Difficulty in recruiting is directly related to his job status. He and his staff have done a GREAT job in getting a number of very talented players interested in UT. If UT makes the right hire, that ground work will pay dividends SPECIFICALLY because Dooley's philosophy is to sell UT and not coaches.

Going for size and not speed on defense in one of the fastest conferences in football.

You mean just like the best D in the SEC, Bama? Speed isn't their strength either. Unfortunately, Sunseri cannot teach guys how to play their assignments.

Assistants are not fond of him.

How do you know? Who is "fond" of their boss when he's coming down on them for doing a poor job? And most importantly.... SO WHAT? Being liked has NEVER been a requirement for being successful in leadership. You would rather be liked... but you have to be respected. Coaches who worry about people being "fond" of them when losing games... are the worst.

Signed 19 DB's and Coleman is his best? Been out coaches by Akron ,Kentucky..etc. Still has players not lining up correct. played 2 snaps at Georgia with 9 players . This is not the sign of a well coached team. He is paid big money to be a Coach.

UT has good athletes at DB. Sunseri has been a disaster.

But ultimately, Dooley has to hire, sign, and lead his team. He has to make the right moves regardless. He has to see by game 3 or 4 that Sunseri's ideas aren't working.

Basically.... he has to be able to get it done on gameday. He has not proven he can and should lose his job.

All the other untrue and meaningless things you throw out there do nothing but detract from the ONLY justification needed for change.

 

[sjt18]

Dooley is a good guy. He has integrity. He may some day become a good HC.

He took on a program with problems so severe that it may have been too big for anyone and was certainly too big for him. He is not ready to coach against the SEC and may never be ready.

However he did some necessary "bleeding" that someone was going to have to do. He suffered through two seasons with killer schedules with MAC level talent and FCS level depth. He hands off a program in much better shape than the one he inherited. For that he deserves thanks.

 

[DarthVisor]

Dooley is a good guy. He has integrity. He may some day become a good HC.

He took on a program with problems so severe that it may have been too big for anyone and was certainly too big for him. He is not ready to coach against the SEC and may never be ready.

However he did some necessary "bleeding" that someone was going to have to do. He suffered through two seasons with killer schedules with MAC level talent and FCS level depth. He hands off a program in much better shape than the one he inherited. For that he deserves thanks.

That's a matter of opinion. Unless you know him personally, you're operating on the way he acts in public.

 

[oregonvol]

Recruiting has been good the first three years and was very good before the season fell apart. Difficulty in recruiting is directly related to his job status. He and his staff have done a GREAT job in getting a number of very talented players interested in UT. If UT makes the right hire, that ground work will pay dividends SPECIFICALLY because Dooley's philosophy is to sell UT and not coaches.

Nice try man, but that's not even close to the truth and we all know it. His recruiting rankings have been way behind the coaches before him. He hasn't built, nor laid the groundwork for anything.

 

[VolBeef88]

Dooley is a good guy. He has integrity. He may some day become a good HC.

He took on a program with problems so severe that it may have been too big for anyone and was certainly too big for him. He is not ready to coach against the SEC and may never be ready.

However he did some necessary "bleeding" that someone was going to have to do. He suffered through two seasons with killer schedules with MAC level talent and FCS level depth. He hands off a program in much better shape than the one he inherited. For that he deserves thanks.

The only good thing about this entire Dooley fiasco is me getting to laugh at you and your ilk when we fire his sorry ass.
Thanks for the laughs haha

People like you in business make it easy for me to continue my growth in such a bad business climate.
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[99gator]

Nice try man, but that's not even close to the truth and we all know it. His recruiting rankings have been way behind the coaches before him. He hasn't built, nor laid the groundwork for anything.

And i don't care what the rankings say, the talent is not there.

Everyone should sober up watching the mizzou td run to start the 2nd half. Pay attention to the guys trying to chase the back or take an angle to cut him off. Like watching me try to run down usain bolt

 

[jsandy]

agreed. dooley has been a huge let down. have we got some real game changer players. yea sure but so does every other sec school. he has done nothing, any other coach could have come in here and done exactly what he has and probly more. i challege one person to make a list of the good things dooley has done for the program. then explain why other coaches could'nt have done it.

 

[jsandy]

and befor i get labled as a negavol. i was a huge doolaid drinker. i bought into the orange dog, or watering the bamboo bull****. but as i get a little older and a little wiser i just cant take it anymore.

 

[VolBeef88]

And i don't care what the rankings say, the talent is not there.

Everyone should sober up watching the mizzou td run to start the 2nd half. Pay attention to the guys trying to chase the back or take an angle to cut him off. Like watching me try to run down usain bolt

Actually there is talent on this team. If you line up the fastest man in the world wrong he will get beat. It's all about coaching and teaching.
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[bigorange1963]

Well I believe Yes this has been the darkest days of UT Football, Yes I want Coach Dooley replaced. I have been done since Kentucky last year. But I still Think we need to treat Him & his family with Respect. Slander is not healthy and only shows how low our fan base can go. Lets see him go with class. Not as being idiots. I know he made some mistakes & probably was in over his head. (If we blame anyone it needs to be the people who hired him). That doesn't mean we have to give him a ticker tape parade. Just show common respect. So Coach Dooley Thanks For trying to get us out of a huge mess. You have given it u'r best shot.
Now lets see if someone else can turn it around.
:salute::hi:

 

[99gator]

Actually there is talent on this team. If you line up the fastest man in the world wrong he will get beat. It's all about coaching and teaching.
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Coaching is certainly lacking, but coaching is not responsoble for everything.

See Florida's offense. They have had great coaching this year and there are still major issues

 

[Jax_Vol]

If DD is let go ( which I'm certain he will be) I hope that vol nation will give him a big shout of thank yous, he has done a lot of good for Big orange football! I have been a UT fan for years, and can remember how majors was let go, was very sad, then Phillip! Now we have got another coach that put his heart and soul into our football program, we need to show respect! The man and his family have done enough to get my respect, hopefully you feel the same! He is one helluva good man with a great work ethic and deserves to be respected! With a few of the refs calls not been horrible I truly. Feel he would be in office!:rock:

I 100% agree!

Derek, Thank you for all your contributions! You are indeed a funny guy. Best of luck on muschump's staff

 

[VolBeef88]

Coaching is certainly lacking, but coaching is not responsoble for everything.

See Florida's offense. They have had great coaching this year and there are still major issues

The major issue with UT is coaching. Talent is not where it should be but part of getting talent is the job of the coach.
But there is no doubt UT has the talent to have won 8 regular season games at a minimum.
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[99gator]

The major issue with UT is coaching. Talent is not where it should be but part of getting talent is the job of the coach.
But there is no doubt UT has the talent to have won 8 regular season games at a minimum.
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Agree

 

[ric1958]

The major issue with UT is coaching. Talent is not where it should be but part of getting talent is the job of the coach.
But there is no doubt UT has the talent to have won 8 regular season games at a minimum.
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If you are so knowledgable about coaching then why are you not a college football coach instead of coming on here and whining the way you do?

 

[VolBeef88]

If you are so knowledgable about coaching then why are you not a college football coach instead of coming on here and whining the way you do?

You Dooley lovers crack me up. In y'alls eyes someone pointing out facts is whining. Haha
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[Wylo]

Good riddance.

Classy enough for you soccer moms?

There is no participation trophy.

 

[Wylo]

If DD is let go ( which I'm certain he will be) I hope that vol nation will give him a big shout of thank yous, he has done a lot of good for Big orange football! I have been a UT fan for years, and can remember how majors was let go, was very sad, then Phillip! Now we have got another coach that put his heart and soul into our football program, we need to show respect! The man and his family have done enough to get my respect, hopefully you feel the same! He is one helluva good man with a great work ethic and deserves to be respected! With a few of the refs calls not been horrible I truly. Feel he would be in office!:rock:

Which refs' calls made Dooley suck as a coach???

 

[k-town_king]

Dooley is a good guy. He has integrity. He may some day become a good HC.

He took on a program with problems so severe that it may have been too big for anyone and was certainly too big for him. He is not ready to coach against the SEC and may never be ready.

However he did some necessary "bleeding" that someone was going to have to do. He suffered through two seasons with killer schedules with MAC level talent and FCS level depth. He hands off a program in much better shape than the one he inherited. For that he deserves thanks.

Stop lying to make DD look better. How many MAC level rosters have NFL talent at rb, wr , qb and db ? He didn't keep or utilize the talent he inherited.

If our qb and wrs go to the NFL we will be worse off roster wise than what he walked into.

And good guy? How would you know. All the insiders say he is a jerk and that's the impression I get also.

 

[VolBeef88]

Stop lying to make DD look better. How many MAC level rosters have NFL talent at rb, wr , qb and db ? He didn't keep or utilize the talent he inherited.

If our qb and wrs go to the NFL we will be worse off roster wise than what he walked into.

And good guy? How would you know. All the insiders say he is a jerk and that's the impression I get also.

Exactly. He's been an abject failure from top to bottom. Dear Dooley, get your non coaching ass out of here.
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[Insunseri]

If DD is let go ( which I'm certain he will be) I hope that vol nation will give him a big shout of thank yous, he has done a lot of good for Big orange football! I have been a UT fan for years, and can remember how majors was let go, was very sad, then Phillip! Now we have got another coach that put his heart and soul into our football program, we need to show respect! The man and his family have done enough to get my respect, hopefully you feel the same! He is one helluva good man with a great work ethic and deserves to be respected! With a few of the refs calls not been horrible I truly. Feel he would be in office!:rock:

I disagree entirely. I don't think he's really done anything "good" here, and I don't really even think he's a good guy. He throws his players under the bus constantly. I'm sure he tried his best, but any coach does that. What makes him so different that he deserves a round of applause for running the program into the ground?