CNN vs Trump

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Majors said:
With that being said, we don’t care about your messages because we had 3.1M viewers and that’s all we at CNN care about.
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When facing the question "how much integrity are we willing to sacrifice in order to increase ratings?", Fox and CNN have different answers.
 
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hog88 said:
What does Trump have to do with our discussion?
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Not sure. But I will interject this.

It is amazing to watch how far off the deep-end the democrats have gone. You watch a clip of them talking about crime, illegal immigration, abortion, race-relations, America’s history and current role in the world, etc. 20-40 years ago and those democrats sound nothing like what we hear today.

In fairness, the GOP has shifted on certain issues as well. But nothing like the democrats have done. They have completely abandoned reason and sanity. Which I why I always say (as I did the other day) I didn’t leave the democrat party in 2013, they left me!
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
If kissing Putin's butt = Statesmanship ????

Then yeah ... Trump is a master statesman, alright.
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Agreed, but would you also agree Biden has been every bit as disastrous? Until we can all agree on this truth it is all finger pointing and the race to the bottom continues.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Not sure. But I will interject this.

It is amazing to watch how far off the deep-end the democrats have gone. You watch a clip of them talking about crime, illegal immigration, abortion, race-relations, America’s history and current role in the world, etc. 20-40 years ago and those democrats sound nothing like what we hear today.

In fairness, the GOP has shifted on certain issues as well. But nothing like the democrats have done. They have completely abandoned reason and sanity. Which I why I always say (as I did the other day) I didn’t leave the democrat party in 2013, they left me!
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No boundary is too far for them and they just follow along. Never in my days would I have thought they would push some of the things we see.
 
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luthervol said:
He wears both hats, and wears them both well.
Even his blabby talky stuff is hard to fault. (from my perspective of course)
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No he doesn’t, because news guys don’t report opinions as facts. He would cover Biden with the same vigor if he was a news guy.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Trump Says He 'Never Met' Author Who Has Accused Him of Sexual Assault

20 people who Trump has personally known and then claimed he didn't

Donald Trump actually does this a lot ... Lying comes very easy to him, and he knows his supporters are stupid and don't care if he is lying.

Trump once even denied knowing who Vladimir Putin was ... and this was after he had bragged about being featured on an episode of '60 Minutes' on the same night as Putin. "We were stablemates that night ... and we did pretty well (in the ratings.)"
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I'll be honest, I don't believe a lot of what Trump says but there are literally dozens of pictures I've seen on mutual friends timelines with pictures of me in them.... from people I literally have no idea who they are.

And I'm a nobody, certainly not a well known personality people want photo ops with.
 
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hog88 said:
What does Trump have to do with our discussion?
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I don't really have to tell you, do I? Follow the path of Thread and you will see how we got to where we are and why Trump is our conversation. Thread Title may also provide you with some answers.
Some were looking for legitimate Statesmen of which Trump is not.

You call foul a lot! Funny. Trump is a Clone of Clinton. Delivery Techniques/Messaging are different but final products are very close to being the same. Slick Trump doesn't sound as good as Slick Willy. At least Clinton had an End State that benefited America and Trump has an End State that benefits Trump.

Now that we are on the Topic of Trump, I have never understood why he solicits money from his supporters to pay his legal bills when he has all those assets he could easily liquidate to pay out of his back pocket. A Go Fund Me Page for Trump might be another solution and more legal. A man that doesn't pay his bills and has bankrupted 7 Companies and some are stupidly providing him with the funds to do it to this country.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
What exactly of his do you think people are accepting?
1) siding with his actual policies?
Or
2) a Long simmering populist disgust at the way Washington works?
there are of course people in both categories. The twin mistakes Democrats and the MSN make are that they greatly overestimate the number in group 1 and greatly underestimate the number in group 2.
Trump did not appear out a void. There is nothing magical or mysterious about him (beyond the fact that he doesn’t care how much the media hates him) and if he were to disappear tomorrow, someone else would quickly take his place .
Trump appeared at a time when a political vacuum was ready to be filled. He simply got there first to fill it.
All the left can see is Trump Trump Trump 24x7 and they are so far incapable of reflecting exactly WHY at least a plurality of Americans is actually willing to follow such an objectively disgusting individual as Trump. Only when the leadership of either political party finally understand that will Trump become irrelevant.
So stop asking yourself who Trump IS and start trying to ascertain who he IS NOT. And the answer might surprise you in that a wise Democrat would be just as able to tap into that vein just as easily as Trump has.
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Definitely number 2.

But resentment is not a good reason to vote for someone who, while embodying rage, is also utterly incompetent and dangerous.
 
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Majors said:
No he doesn’t, because news guys don’t report opinions as facts. He would cover Biden with the same vigor if he was a news guy.
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Did you not see that I said he wears both hats? Sometimes he does opinion pieces, sometimes he reports the news. He has the integrity to keep them separate and be transparent about which hat he is wearing at the time.
 
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luthervol said:
Did you not see that I said he wears both hats? Sometimes he does opinion pieces, sometimes he reports the news. He has the integrity to keep them separate and be transparent about which hat he is wearing at the time.
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Cmon Luther grow up and stop believing in fairy tales. Journalistic integrity is dead. Certainly among those working for major media outlets.
You can’t be this naive.

He is spokesperson for CNN in an attempt to drive ratings. He’s also a willing pawn for the democrat party. That’s his job.
 
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luthervol said:
Did you not see that I said he wears both hats? Sometimes he does opinion pieces, sometimes he reports the news. He has the integrity to keep them separate and be transparent about which hat he is wearing at the time.
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He doesn’t, he’s yet to cover Biden with the honesty he needs to. His integrity is lost by not calling the left hypocrites or challenging the left in regards how the world has collapsed under their watch from day light crimes in NYC to homeless crisis in San Fransisco.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Definitely number 2.

But resentment is not a good reason to vote for someone who, while embodying rage, is also utterly incompetent and dangerous.
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But resentment is a realistic motivation. Saying people shouldn’t vote according to its dictates is simply not realistic. Politically you cannot just afford to ignore it like both parties have done for the last 40 years. Pretending it doesn’t exist allows the pot to simmer with the lid weighed down until you actually get a Trump. And I would argue that in the 250 years of our Constitutional Republic, there has NEVER been a bigger disconnect between the electors and the elected than there is at present. Such times are indeed perilous.
Trump is not a sign of a foolish voter choices as much as it is of a failure of the political establishment in this country to actually connect and listen to their constituents. If a man is allowed to get hungry enough, he will eventually eat anything you set in front of him. No matter how unhealthy.
So maybe the people in DC NOT named Trump should actually get serious about the deficit, inflation, uncontrolled immigration, crime, failing schools, and the unchecked growth of power by every single agency in Washington.
Then maybe we will be able to dispense with worrying about such people as he
 
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OrangeTsar said:
But resentment is a realistic motivation. Saying people shouldn’t vote according to its dictates is simply not realistic. Politically you cannot just afford to ignore it like both parties have done for the last 40 years. Pretending it doesn’t cost allows the pot to simmer with the lid weighed down until you actually get a Trump.
Trump is not a sign of a foolish voter choices as much as it is of a failure of the political establishment in this country to actually connect and listen to their constituents. If a man is allowed to get hungry enough, he will eventually eat anything you set in front of him. No matter how unhealthy.
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This!

Obama was the ultimate politician. After 8 years of enduring his lectures, terrible policies, and exaltation of the goodness of government, people wanted ANYTHING but another politician.

In walks Donald Trump.

It definitely goes back further as you stated, but 2016 was a breaking point.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
But resentment is a realistic motivation. Saying people shouldn’t vote according to its dictates is simply not realistic. Politically you cannot just afford to ignore it like both parties have done for the last 40 years. Pretending it doesn’t exist allows the pot to simmer with the lid weighed down until you actually get a Trump. And I would argue that in the 250 years of our Constitutional Republic, there has NEVER been a bigger disconnect between the electors and the elected than there is at present. Such times are indeed perilous.
Trump is not a sign of a foolish voter choices as much as it is of a failure of the political establishment in this country to actually connect and listen to their constituents. If a man is allowed to get hungry enough, he will eventually eat anything you set in front of him. No matter how unhealthy.
So maybe the people in DC NOT named Trump should actually get serious about the deficit, inflation, uncontrolled immigration, crime, failing schools, and the unchecked growth of power by every single agency in Washington.
Then maybe we will be able to dispense with worrying about such people as he
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I don't disagree with any of that. It's very worrisome.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
This!

Obama was the ultimate politician. After 8 years of enduring his lectures, terrible policies, and exaltation of the goodness of government, people wanted ANYTHING but another politician.

In walks Donald Trump.

It definitely goes back further as you stated, but 2016 was a breaking point.
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You may disagree with Obama but he was thoughtful and deliberate. Trump is mercurial and unfocused in the extreme. At a time when we need the opposite.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Cmon Luther grow up and stop believing in fairy tales. Journalistic integrity is dead. Certainly among those working for major media outlets.
You can’t be this naive.

He is spokesperson for CNN in an attempt to drive ratings. He’s also a willing pawn for the democrat party. That’s his job.
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Please, that is such a moronic position.
Journalist have always had to balance true journalism against their own beliefs and positions.
Some do it better than others. It has always been that way and it will always be that way.

Trumpism was founded on convincing people that everyone and everything is equally bad....it's absurd, and only a mentally weak perosn whould allowe themeselves to buy in.
 
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lawgator1 said:
You may disagree with Obama but he was thoughtful and deliberate. Trump is mercurial and unfocused in the extreme. At a time when we need the opposite.
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Oh I agree.

People misunderstood Rubio in the 2016 debates. He stated that Obama knew exactly what he was doing. Rubio wasn’t speaking to Obama’s competency as the President elected to lead our great nation. No, Rubio meant Obama knew exactly what he was doing in trying to bring this country to its F’ing knees!

Very deliberate. Extremely thoughtful in that respect.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
But resentment is a realistic motivation. Saying people shouldn’t vote according to its dictates is simply not realistic. Politically you cannot just afford to ignore it like both parties have done for the last 40 years. Pretending it doesn’t exist allows the pot to simmer with the lid weighed down until you actually get a Trump. And I would argue that in the 250 years of our Constitutional Republic, there has NEVER been a bigger disconnect between the electors and the elected than there is at present. Such times are indeed perilous.
Trump is not a sign of a foolish voter choices as much as it is of a failure of the political establishment in this country to actually connect and listen to their constituents. If a man is allowed to get hungry enough, he will eventually eat anything you set in front of him. No matter how unhealthy.
So maybe the people in DC NOT named Trump should actually get serious about the deficit, inflation, uncontrolled immigration, crime, failing schools, and the unchecked growth of power by every single agency in Washington.
Then maybe we will be able to dispense with worrying about such people as he
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Trump had a big voter push because of the entitlement of left anointing Hillary next. Took voters for granted
 
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