Coach "Jake": Freshman QBs are ready?

[Neyland Law Vol]

“They have been game ready for a while. The question is, you don’t know how well they will execute in those pressure situations until they are put in those situations. From a skill standpoint, from a knowledge standpoint they have a firm grasp. Now will it all trigger when the lights go on? That is the question.”

#VOLREPORT: VOLS GAINING CONFIDENCE - VolNation

I know worley played his best half of football against UGA but could we see a freshman coming out of the bye week? This is the first i've heard that the freshman "have a firm grasp" of what to do. Is he hinting at something here?

Last year Butch replaced his starting QB after a win and a 6-2 start?

 

[KingtUT]

You have got to be kidding.

 

[utvolpj]

you don't pull Worley after the last game. This is getting ridiculous

 

[BenGrimm]

It's time to quit calling to see the back up QB. We saw what happened with Peterman. Let's not repeat that mistake again. Worley has the best command of this young offense.

 

[titanvolsfan1]

I didn't read nothing where freshman Qb is starting

 

[butchna]

You have got to be kidding.

The hilarity is unintentional :haha_oh::lol::lol::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

 

[VOLorNuttin]

#VOLREPORT: VOLS GAINING CONFIDENCE - VolNation

I know worley played his best half of football against UGA but could we see a freshman coming out of the bye week? This is the first i've heard that the freshman "have a firm grasp" of what to do. Is he hinting at something here?

Coaches are simply afraid of how they MIGHT perform in game situations...that offsets the fact that Worley is not really a fit for this style of offense. But, we'll see. I'm hoping Worley has indeed turned the corner like Crompton did in '09. I thought at the time, Crompton was the worst QB UT has had in ages....but somehow, the light came on for him.

 

[Memphisvol87]

Coaches are simply afraid of how they MIGHT perform in game situations...that offsets the fact that Worley is not really a fit for this style of offense. But, we'll see. I'm hoping Worley has indeed turned the corner like Crompton did in '09. I thought at the time, Crompton was the worst QB UT has had in ages....but somehow, the light came on for him.

Crompton never turned a corner, he had one great game against georgia. I think worley played a great game saturday and I hope he improves again next week against SC. But if the coaches go with a freshman at some point then it will hopefully be for good reason.

 

[Neyland Law Vol]

you don't pull Worley after the last game. This is getting ridiculous

Im not calling for "pulling" worley, but this is the first i've heard that the freshman QB's "have a firm grasp" of the play book? Thought it could mean we may see them this year after all?

 

[SnowblindVOL]

I find it funny that an article that is about gaining confidence and how the team is improving (including Worley) would lead someone to think that the coaches have lost confidence in the starting qb.

 

[The Orange Pants]

I quit.

 

[Neyland Law Vol]

I find it funny that an article that is about gaining confidence and how the team is improving (including Worley) would lead someone to think that the coaches have lost confidence in the starting qb.

Maybe they are "gaining" confidence in the freshman QB's. Just because they decide to start one of the freshman doesn't mean Worley hasn't gotten better, it may indicate that the freshman have improved even more than Worley?

 

[DC Vol]

Crompton never turned a corner, he had one great game against georgia. I think worley played a great game saturday and I hope he improves again next week against SC. But if the coaches go with a freshman at some point then it will hopefully be for good reason.

Taking out the WKU game:

Crompton's stats before Georgia:

61-122 (50%) 669 yards (5.48ypa) 4 TD 6 INT

After Georgia:

127-208 (61%) 1665 yards (8ypa) 17 TD 4 INT


Stats say you don't have any idea what you're talking about. But, given this is VN Football Forum, what's overwhelming facts when compared to anecdotes and conjecture.

 

[Neyland Law Vol]

Also, remember last year Butch replaced his starting QB after a win and the team was 6-2. Just because the team is getting better doesn't mean Butch won't play the player he thinks gives him the best chance to win. That could be the freshman coming of a bye week with extra reps.

 

[DC Vol]

Additionally, it's ridiculous to even talk about burning a Red Shirt to pull a functional QB.

Worley has been up and down but if he can find consistency in there, he's a guy that will take us to a bowl game. If he plays like he did against Georgia and Florida (taking away desperation heaves) we'll be fine.

WRs also are in the mix. You don't want to throw out a True Freshman QB if the WRs are still young guys learning the system themselves. We have no JR/SR WR for a young QB to lean on.

 

[supervol01]

Taking out the WKU game:

Crompton's stats before Georgia:

61-122 (50%) 669 yards (5.48ypa) 4 TD 6 INT

After Georgia:

127-208 (61%) 1665 yards (8ypa) 17 TD 4 INT


Stats say you don't have any idea what you're talking about. But, given this is VN Football Forum, what's overwhelming facts when compared to anecdotes and conjecture.

Ouch, that's a nasty BURN!!!

 

[VolFan4Life87]

Worley is the starter and will be, barring any injury for the rest of the season

 

[Neyland Law Vol]

Additionally, it's ridiculous to even talk about burning a Red Shirt to pull a functional QB.

Worley has been up and down but if he can find consistency in there, he's a guy that will take us to a bowl game. If he plays like he did against Georgia and Florida (taking away desperation heaves) we'll be fine.

WRs also are in the mix. You don't want to throw out a True Freshman QB if the WRs are still young guys learning the system themselves. We have no JR/SR WR for a young QB to lean on.

That is a good point and I think that is largely why we haven't yet seen the freshman QB's. But if they have a "firm grasp" of the playbook and have executed well in practice as Coach Jake says, if the WR come along and the coaches like the freshman better - we could see one of them start before the end of the year.

 

[DC Vol]

Also, remember last year Butch replaced his starting QB after a win and the team was 6-2. Just because the team is getting better doesn't mean Butch won't play the player he thinks gives him the best chance to win. That could be the freshman coming of a bye week with extra reps.

He replaced a JR QB with another JR QB... not a True Freshman he was trying to keep a RS on.

 

[DC Vol]

Additionally, 2012 Cinci had a SR WR (Thompkins) and a JR WR (McClung) that were easier to lean on than a trio of So/RS FR/TFr.

Not to knock our WRs... they're coming along extremely well... but they're just not a strength of this team and something a young QB can depend on.

Playing a young, inexperienced QB against USC/Bama/Mizzou/Auburn would be a nightmare. Auburn has what looks to be a very good DL. You don't want a True Freshman against a good DL.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Maybe they are "gaining" confidence in the freshman QB's. Just because they decide to start one of the freshman doesn't mean Worley hasn't gotten better, it may indicate that the freshman have improved even more than Worley?

And it may be that they are not as good as Worley at this time. I trust the coaches' decisions in rebuilding our team and playing those players who give us the best chance of winning.

 

[Neyland Law Vol]

Additionally, 2012 Cinci had a SR WR (Thompkins) and a JR WR (McClung) that were easier to lean on than a trio of So/RS FR/TFr.

Not to knock our WRs... they're coming along extremely well... but they're just not a strength of this team and something a young QB can depend on.

Playing a young, inexperienced QB against USC/Bama/Mizzou/Auburn would be a nightmare. Auburn has what looks to be a very good DL. You don't want a True Freshman against a good DL.

I understand your point. But it seems from the quote in the OP that the freshman are "game ready" and have a "firm grasp" of the plays. If they are more athletic than worley also (more mobile, stronger arm) and coaches feel the WR are coming along, they may decide the playmaking ability of a freshman QB is the only way this TN team can pull of a win against those four teams you list.

 

[AllVolForLife_16]

I think Worley will be playing with a chip on his shoulder against South Carolina. It's his hometown school, and they passed on him. He'll have a lot to prove against their struggling pass defense. As long as Tennessee can give the same effort as we did last Saturday, I think we come away with the victory.

 

[Dragon18]

A couple of things:

First- I think we have all assumed/known that both freshman likely have a higher ceiling than Worley. IF Worley gets pulled in lieu of one of the Freshman it will be because the coaching staff believe that he has clearly surpassed Worley. I think that moment is inevitable we all just figured it would be later rather than sooner.

Also- This whole discussion about burning a redshirt is likely moot. As I understand the red shirt rules, it doesn't have to be used during a freshman year. It makes more sense from a competition and lineage perspective to use it this year, but beyond that it doesn't mean much. I think at this point CBJ will put his best players on the field in order to give himself the best opportunity to win.

All of that being said, Worley will be starting the USCe game and likely every game for the rest of this year IMO. He seems to be a good leader and the team seems to really respect him and believe in him.

 

[Neyland Law Vol]

A couple of things:

First- I think we have all assumed/known that both freshman likely have a higher ceiling than Whorley. IF Whorley gets pulled in lieu of one of the Freshman it will be because the coaching staff believe that he has clearly surpassed Whorley. I think that moment is inevitable we all just figured it would be later rather than sooner.

Also- This whole discussion about burning a redshirt is likely moot. As I understand the red shirt rules, it doesn't have to be used during a freshman year. It makes more sense from a competition and lineage perspective to use it this year, but beyond that it doesn't mean much. I think at this point CBJ will put his best players on the field in order to give himself the best opportunity to win.

All of that being said, Whorley will be starting the USCe game and likely every game for the rest of this year IMO. He seems to be a good leader and the team seems to really respect him and believe in him.

I pretty much agree with all of this. I really hope we see Worely play great and keep the job.

The thread hits on your first paragraph and that if Worley regresses and/or the freshman really start to look good in practice, there could be a change before the end of the season.