Coach "Jake": Freshman QBs are ready?

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I did not take from the article that they were thinking of replacing Worley as the starting QB, only that the freshman qb were game ready. With the injury to Peterman, the coaches have to consider what would happen if Worley went down. IMHO while both freshman may have a higher upside, Worley gives us the best chance now. One concern I would have, if either Dobbs or Fergeson were to play as a backup, is that the other might consider transferring out. I'd love to have all 4 qb's back next year and if Worley can hold on until Peterman comes back as a backup, that gives us the best chance. Depending on how the rest of this year goes, I wonder if Peterman will stay?
 
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DC Vol said:
Additionally, it's ridiculous to even talk about burning a Red Shirt to pull a functional QB.

Worley has been up and down but if he can find consistency in there, he's a guy that will take us to a bowl game. If he plays like he did against Georgia and Florida (taking away desperation heaves) we'll be fine.

WRs also are in the mix. You don't want to throw out a True Freshman QB if the WRs are still young guys learning the system themselves. We have no JR/SR WR for a young QB to lean on.
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Me thinks "DC Vol" is a prosecuting attorney! :)
 
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I take the comments as a ``we will be fine if something were to happen to Worley" type thing . Not put them in. They want to redshirt them or they would ha e played now.
 
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If Worley gets hurt or has a disasterous relapse of ineffectiveness, that's the only way we'll see one of the freshmen IMO. And honestly, I think he'd have to have a disasterous game against someone other than Alabama for that to happen.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
It's time to quit calling to see the back up QB. We saw what happened with Peterman. Let's not repeat that mistake again. Worley has the best command of this young offense.
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I'm not calling for a change, but don't lump every situation as the same. Don't designate every similar situation to the same result. If the coaches do make a move then so be it. I watch and cheer. Were on the rise boys, so don't freak just relax.
 
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They might be practice ready. but, are they game ready? I really hope we get to redshirt both of these young qbs for this year. If worely can manage the last games like he did in the ga game, i can't see a reason for a change. I don't know if the light has come on for worely but i could tell a difference in him during the fl game.
 
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tcash051 said:
while both freshman may have a higher upside,
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Not picking on you as I continue to hear this, but what evidence supports this position?

Is it not more of Worley was not performing well before GA and folks were hoping someone else on the roster would have to do better?
 
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I was negative about Worley but after the second half speculating his replacement is just being negative for negativity's sake. We want these Freshman ready though, that's unmistakeable and independent of Worley's performance.
 
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This is all about competition guys. Competitions makes players better. Worley needs competition to make him better.
 
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Dragon18 said:
A couple of things:

First- I think we have all assumed/known that both freshman likely have a higher ceiling than Whorley. IF Whorley gets pulled in lieu of one of the Freshman it will be because the coaching staff believe that he has clearly surpassed Whorley. I think that moment is inevitable we all just figured it would be later rather than sooner.

Also- This whole discussion about burning a redshirt is likely moot. As I understand the red shirt rules, it doesn't have to be used during a freshman year. It makes more sense from a competition and lineage perspective to use it this year, but beyond that it doesn't mean much. I think at this point CBJ will put his best players on the field in order to give himself the best opportunity to win.

All of that being said, Whorley will be starting the USCe game and likely every game for the rest of this year IMO. He seems to be a good leader and the team seems to really respect him and believe in him.
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DC Vol said:
Taking out the WKU game:

Crompton's stats before Georgia:

61-122 (50%) 669 yards (5.48ypa) 4 TD 6 INT

After Georgia:

127-208 (61%) 1665 yards (8ypa) 17 TD 4 INT


Stats say you don't have any idea what you're talking about. But, given this is VN Football Forum, what's overwhelming facts when compared to anecdotes and conjecture.
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Unless there is something I'm missing, "stats" don't allow for arbitrarily removing data to help prove a point. Why take out the WKU game (one of his better performances) but leave in UCLA (one of his worst)?

Or how about just using his final three games if he had really turned a corner?

48-83 (58%) 455 yards (5.48 ypa) 5 TD 3 INT

Not really any significant improvement from his 1st half of the season when you include WKU back in the stats.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Could have something to do with the QBs they have faced. Not saying they're on the level with some of the elite defenses but they aren't as bad as those stats either.
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QB's they have faced? Tahj Boyd and that's it.


I mean unless you are referring to the North Texas QB who still threw up 240 yards on them.

Through 6 games, they've got 1 interception as a team.

If you look at the stats from all their games, EVERY QB puts up 200 yrds.
 
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If they have been game ready for awhile and have not been put in then one thing has to be clear... even to the most ardent fans of the back up QB. Worley is better than either of the Fr at this point in his and their careers.

This statement actually leaves very, very little room for debate.
 
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I'd interpret as 'freshmen are ready if Worley goes down.'
There will be no change.
 
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Dragon18 said:
A couple of things:

First- I think we have all assumed/known that both freshman likely have a higher ceiling than Whorley. .
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And anyone who has "assumed" much less claimed to have "known" that is an abject fool. They may have more talent and a higher ceiling but there is nothing... ABSOLUTELY nothing.... to substantiate that as an assumption much less something anyone "knows". That "anyone" includes the coaches who see them practice every day.

Barring an injury or some kind of dramatic regression, Worley will finish this year and be the entrenched starter next year. The "grass is always greener" folks just need to get used to that. Trust is has developed between the players on O. It is getting stronger by the day. That includes trust between Worley and the other players.
 
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