Coach Kellie Harper

[VolFuture]

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[DarkPhoenix]

Do you think it’s also some system adjustments that cover for a team’s lack of speed and athleticism too? I wouldn’t say Clark is a great defensive player though she is transcendental on the offensive side,, yet the team seems to hold decent teams to at least less than what they are scoring. Indiana is another team that I think the system they run seems to help them cover for shortcomings.

Our team is just different, the speed is a big thing but they also lack situational awareness, toughness, and mental mistakes. Too many times I’ve seen a loose ball and some of our players never run to it, or they let players make easy layups without contesting or fouling, it’s like they don’t care or just give up. I can name more things but this post will be too long, we just need players that want to win and have a refuse to lose attitude and not just players that are happy to be playing on a team.

 

[spojo13]

OOF first round to a FF to second round

So his low finishes are just about at Kellie’s lows and his highs are higher? Not sure what you are proving here?

 

[VolFuture]

All I’ll say is you don’t fire Kellie without the next coach being a guaranteed done deal.

You don’t fire consistent 20 win season SS coaches.

I fully expect a “lighter” schedule next year

Or please at least a healthy season

We still don’t know what we’re getting out the portal but I’m hearing things are moving.

Was yesterday disappointing sure… but be honest . I really think Kellie grew as a coach this year. Would be a waste to throw next year away.

Also I’m so tired of most of u. You trash Kellie. Trash the players. Don’t give them credit for what they did do and don’t see how much adversity and injury this team faced.

Fully expecting Key and Jewel and Tess to announce here soon after they take a few day off from a hard season.

 

[VolFuture]

All I’ll say is you don’t fire Kellie without the next coach being a guaranteed done deal.

You don’t fire consistent 20 win season SS coaches.

I fully expect a “lighter” schedule next year

We still don’t know what we’re getting out the portal but I’m hearing things are moving.

Was yesterday disappointing sure… but be honest . I really think Kellie grew as a coach this year. Would be a waste to throw next year away.

Also I’m so tired of most of u. You trash Kellie. Trash the players. Don’t give them credit for what they did do and don’t see how much adversity and injury this team faced.

Fully expecting Key and Jewel and Tess to announce here soon after they take a few day off from a hard season.

If NC State was at home/neutral we win. Simple. I’ve never been in an arena so loud. You could tell the players couldn’t hear each other or the bench throughout the game.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

All I’ll say is you don’t fire Kellie without the next coach being a guaranteed done deal.

You don’t fire consistent 20 win season SS coaches.

I fully expect a “lighter” schedule next year

We still don’t know what we’re getting out the portal but I’m hearing things are moving.

Was yesterday disappointing sure… but be honest . I really think Kellie grew as a coach this year. Would be a waste to throw next year away.

Also I’m so tired of most of u. You trash Kellie. Trash the players. Don’t give them credit for what they did do and don’t see how much adversity and injury this team faced.

Fully expecting Key and Jewel and Tess to announce here soon after they take a few day off from a hard season.

I don’t care about the schedule that much, k can]re about the players. If we have a stacked team the schedule won’t matter. Now if we don’t have a stacked team and have a soft schedule like a team like Vanderbilt we might end up like them and barely make the tournament.

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

Yet Kellie has been more successful at UT in her first 5 seasons than he was in his first 5 at VT. Looks like a better hire to me.

That’s an incredibly simple view. Look at the situations they inherited. Brooks inherited a program that was well below .500 in the five seasons prior to his arrival and had only made the ncaa tournament 9 times in program history. Kellie inherited a program that had never missed the ncaa tournament and was in the E8 in 2015 and 2016.

 

[VolBall09]

If NC State was at home we win. Simple. I’ve never been in an arena so loud. You could tell the players couldn’t hear each other or the bench throughout the game.

Simple.

Except we were good enough to host. So idk what your point is?

This is all a direct result of coaching and how the season went. If you want those advantages you have to earn them. Just like NC State did.

 

[spojo13]

Our team is just different, the speed is a big thing but they also lack situational awareness, toughness, and mental mistakes. Too many times I’ve seen a loose ball and some of our players never run to it, or they let players make easy layups without contesting or fouling, it’s like they don’t care or just give up. I can name more things but this post will be too long, we just need players that want to win and have a refuse to lose attitude and not just players that are happy to be playing on a team.

Maybe slower reaction times? Or do you think it’s missed evals? Or do you see it as a refuse to lose mentality lacking? I think most of the girls want to win so I lean to maybe just slower reaction times combined with basketball IQ.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Maybe slower reaction times? Or do you think it’s missed evals? Or do you see it as a refuse to lose mentality lacking? I think most of the girls want to win so I lean to maybe just slower reaction times combined with basketball IQ.

I watch very closely and 2 players can be at the same spot and the other team goes for it and some of our players don’t try, it can be slow reaction time or just giving up, in any case they shouldn’t be playing any meaningful mins. I think everyone wants to win, but it’s a mindset u meed to have. I don’t know I just like players that have killer will and losing fuels them because it’s unacceptable. If u need an example of that kind of player for reference just look at a player like Hannah Hidalgo, that type of will and competitiveness needs to be on our roster.

 

[spojo13]

I watch very closely and 2 players can be at the same spot and the other team goes for it and some of our players don’t try, it can be slow reaction time or just giving up, in any case they shouldn’t be playing any meaningful mins. I think everyone wants to win, but it’s a mindset u meed to have. I don’t know I just like players that have killer will and losing fuels them because it’s unacceptable. If u need an example of that kind of player for reference just look at a player like Hannah Hidalgo, that type of will and competitiveness needs to be on our roster.

I do love Hidalgo. She does have that “dog” in her, but she is also extremely quick

 

[VolFuture]

Simple.

Except we were good enough to host. So idk what your point is?

This is all a direct result of coaching and how the season went. If you want those advantages you have to earn them. Just like NC State did.

Well meant home/neutral.

Rickea doesn’t miss 8 games we host

 

[DarkPhoenix]

I do love Hidalgo. She does have that “dog” in her, but she is also extremely quick

That’s the type of player we’ve been lacking for a very long time, I just hope we get one soon because that’s the type of player that can carry and will a team to a championship. And that player needs to be a guard/wing since they have the ball in their hands most of the time.

 

[VolBall09]

Well meant home/neutral.

Rickea doesn’t miss 8 games we host

Give it up. We don’t know what happens if Kea doesn’t miss 8 games. She did, that’s the reality. We lost plenty we shouldn’t have with her. Including Florida State, A&M, Ole Miss the list goes on.

 

[lfvol]

We have too many players that are not just slow, but also not quick.

It's a potential match up & D breakdown problem when one is on the floor, it's a much bigger problem if more than one on the floor and the coach's D approach & players cannot compensate. Major WCBB has simply become a much more athletic player game...
I really like our players, their effort, but you can't hide what a challenge it is match up wise

All of this except “their effort”. The number of times we make half speed efforts to close out on shooters or in transition is maddening.

 

[madtownvol]

That’s an incredibly simple view. Look at the situations they inherited. Brooks inherited a program that was well below .500 in the five seasons prior to his arrival and had only made the ncaa tournament 9 times in program history. Kellie inherited a program that had never missed the ncaa tournament and was in the E8 in 2015 and 2016.

And had completely gone off the rails in 2018-19 with a losing conference record, failing to earn 20 wins, losing in the first round of the NCAAs, and had a completely broken team culture.

Not exactly a dream scenario for Kellie (who then was immediately hit with the covid crisis). Could not have been better for her right?.....

 

[Volstylexx]

OOF first round to a FF to second round

his teams leading scorer went out with an ACL injury in the ACC tournament….

 

[Volstylexx]

I do love Hidalgo. She does have that “dog” in her, but she is also extremely quick

I am certain Kellie could coach the good qualities right out of her.. I mean she’s done that with multiple conference’s best players this year. If Spears showed up yesterday we would have won, but she didn’t. We can look at her three years of phenomenal work at Wake and say ”ok what’s different this year than those three?”

 

[madtownvol]

I am certain Kellie could coach the good qualities right out of her.. I mean she’s done that with multiple conference’s best players this year. If Spears showed up yesterday we would have won, but she didn’t. We can look at her three years of phenomenal work at Wake and say ”ok what’s different this year than those three?”

Dude, Jewell's 3 pt shooting and overal FG% were above her career averages at Wake, as were her assist totals and rebounds per game. Every expert observer agrees she became a better overall player. Her scoring average was down (16.5 versus 13.1 as a LV) but that will happen when you go from being team's first option to the 2nd option.

 

[Coach Jumper]

Exactly. That’s what we’re saying. Kellie is at a program with 8 championships and can’t recruit.

We’re literally losing recruits TO Kenny on a semi-regular basis now. Kids picking VT over Tennessee.

Or Kansas like Nichols who is another excellent player we blew it with.

With recruits' thinking,,,it's all about :
Can the coach,,,coach!?
Does the coach's personal expectations,,match or exceed their payers abilities and expectations?
Do their players respect the coach?
Do they WANT to play for that coach?
But equally important is
Is the coach personable, Fun to be around but not intrusive, liked by their present players?
But here's where it gets tricky....

Can the coach be,.,in person, a personable coach who commands respect as well..That is where you get recruits,,,,if they like you and respect you,,,,they will play for you bc you give them the environment they need for success

 

[Dansky]

If NC State was at home we win. Simple. I’ve never been in an arena so loud. You could tell the players couldn’t hear each other or the bench throughout the game.

Well if the lady Vols had won more games they would have been at home with a crowd backing them.

 

[VolFuture]

his teams leading scorer went out with an ACL injury in the ACC tournament….

Still lost

 

[Advol]

I read a quote the other day (regarding a men’s basketball coach somewhere) that said if the only response is “but who do you go get,” then you’re already past the point of them needing to move on. I think the reasoning there is apathy. I honestly think most sitting P5 coaches could have coached them to a similar record this year. Remember how frustrated we were when our players would play for GENO on the team USA and look like superstars. Coaching matters. The talent on this team was incredible (pre-season #5 for a reason).

There is no rebuild needed here, imo. The brand still commands values and will draw recruits… but our window on that remaining a true statement closes with each passing year.

NO rebuild needed???????????? Why because there isnt one?? The rebuild is over.........how many years does the misery go on!
NO one dislikes Kellie................she has NOT got it done in what time has been given her. And an ample amount of time I might add.
Why be so stubborn in seeing it! The program is at the bottom!! Needs change. If that one doesnt work, you get another one. Its a business people.................

 

[VolFuture]

Well if the lady Vols had won more games they would have been at home with a crowd backing them.

Meant home/neutral again we could’ve had we been healthy all year

 

[VolFuture]

Give it up. We don’t know what happens if Kea doesn’t miss 8 games. She did, that’s the reality. We lost plenty we shouldn’t have with her. Including Florida State, A&M, Ole Miss the list goes on.

Also it wasn’t just Rickea but whatever