Coach Kellie Harper

Do you want Coach Harper to return or hire new Coach?

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glv98 said:
Sigh. As you know (which is how every post to you starts) revenue the AD has is not related to NIL funds available to WBB.
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Yes, the stance was the athletic department has the means to make a move and hire. Not letting recruits dictate a coach staying out of fear of losing a kid. Had nothing to to do with NIL but funds to pay coaches to leave and come.
 
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Majors said:
Yes, the stance was the athletic department has the means to make a move and hire. Not letting recruits dictate a coach staying out of fear of losing a kid. Had nothing to to do with NIL but funds to pay coaches to leave and come.
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Don't think the relatively tiny amount of a buyout and rehire for WBB was ever a factor. That's chump change in this world.

Since we're all free to spin our own fan fiction, in my head if they make a change now it has everything to do with the 1.1 second disaster. Don't think it happens this year otherwise, but that moment may have just frozen in a negative perception that will be too hard to ever shake. Also if the move is now I think we get an up and comer like the Syracuse coach.
 
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glv98 said:
Don't think the relatively tiny amount of a buyout and rehire for WBB was ever a factor. That's chump change in this world.
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Majors said:
Tennessee has the money to do whatever they need to do. They won’t allow recruits to dictate the program with the portal being there.
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Which goes back to my post. We are speaking the same language.
 
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glv98 said:
Don't think the relatively tiny amount of a buyout and rehire for WBB was ever a factor. That's chump change in this world.

Since we're all free to spin our own fan fiction, in my head if they make a change now it has everything to do with the 1.1 second disaster. Don't think it happens this year otherwise, but that moment may have just frozen in a negative perception that will be too hard to ever shake. Also if the move is now I think we get an up and comer like the Syracuse coach.
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Make a clean break to revitalize a program now through leadership investment or deal with the inevitable year of toxicity and further delay.
 
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Majors said:
Make a clean break to revitalize a program now through leadership investment or deal with the inevitable year of toxicity and further delay.
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Definitely can see that as a possibility.

Unless the NIL narrative turns out to be real and a bag is finally in place. I'll be glad if we can at least put that question to rest one way or the other.

I just wish we could get a home run rather than a what we could get up and comer hire. But I don't think that happens.
 
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glv98 said:
Definitely can see that as a possibility.

Unless the NIL narrative turns out to be real and a bag is finally in place. I'll be glad if we can at least put that question to rest one way or the other.

I just wish we could get a home run rather than a what we could get up and comer hire. But I don't think that happens.
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White has done well with all the HC hires he has made at TN so far so lets have confidence that IF a change is coming he will bring in a good one. There were a lot of questions when he brought in Heuple who was a mid-major coach, he wouldn't be able to recruit or coach with the big boys in the SEC. Turned our he was more than capable of holding his own.
 
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As I've already said, I'd like to see Kellie get at another chance. But if and when the time comes, I also want what my biased heart feels is the best job in women's sports to go to a woman.

Pat Summitt was very proud of the Lady Vol program and all the people who went to great lengths to make great women leaders, not just great basketball players, as each young woman went through her years in college. In a world in which just existing as a woman is often frought with challenges men never even have to give a single thought to, being a strong example for young women to look to and emulate was Pat's greatest achievement.

And so I feel strongly that the job of leading the Tennessee Lady Vol basketball program should forever be one held by a woman.

Go ahead and be mad. lol

If and when a change ever happens, I'd go all out and get Becky Hammon if she'd consider it. She's tough as nails, a good mother, loyal wife and, from what we've already seen, a terrific coach.

Only thing that might spook an AD in Tennessee is the whole being OPENLY queer thing, though I'd really like to believe we've evolved past having to worry about that silliness at this point.

Again, I'd like to see Kellie take one more shot. Maybe make one change in staffing without firing either Sam or Joy. Not sure she'd ever do that, but I think it would be worth a try. And if it doesn't work out, well she can always re-hire that staffer in her next job. Just sayin'.
 
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Perhaps the coaching job is secure at this moment. The Tennessee athletic administration is top tier. There is never going to be a coaching change made that isn’t conducted smoothly. Also, the head coaching position at Tennessee will be the most sought out position for women’s basketball if or when it comes vacant. Bigger than LSU and Kentucky who have made changes in the past 3 years. Kenny Brooks is what Kentucky needed. Tennessee will not hire an up and coming coach. They will definitely get a big name if indeed there is any coaching change that takes place in the near future.
 
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I was never a fan of the KJH hire. I thought that was a bargain bin hire, and she hasn't done anything to really change my mind. What we've seen over the last 5 years is pretty much what I think the ceiling is for the program with her at the helm. If she got fired tomorrow, I wouldn't exactly shed a tear...although much like with Holly, it would suck because of how much she loves the program and wanted it to be successful under her leadership. But a zebra can't change its stripes and she's in over her head just like Holly was.

I do hope that the next hire (if not in the off season, but pretty much a lock for this time next year barring a portal miracle) is the best candidate available, and not having the criteria be a.) female and b.) ties to the LV program. Hopefully, the hire is someone capable of restoring the program into a contender instead of just continuing to lose ground to SEC schools that did invest in top tier coaching.
 
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glv98 said:
Don't think the relatively tiny amount of a buyout and rehire for WBB was ever a factor. That's chump change in this world.

Since we're all free to spin our own fan fiction, in my head if they make a change now it has everything to do with the 1.1 second disaster. Don't think it happens this year otherwise, but that moment may have just frozen in a negative perception that will be too hard to ever shake. Also if the move is now I think we get an up and comer like the Syracuse coach.
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I think the issue is more not getting back to S16 and finishing lower in sec. Regression opens up the door for change.
 
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Amb3096 said:
I was never a fan of the KJH hire. I thought that was a bargain bin hire, and she hasn't done anything to really change my mind. What we've seen over the last 5 years is pretty much what I think the ceiling is for the program with her at the helm. If she got fired tomorrow, I wouldn't exactly shed a tear...although much like with Holly, it would suck because of how much she loves the program and wanted it to be successful under her leadership. But a zebra can't change its stripes and she's in over her head just like Holly was.

I do hope that the next hire (if not in the off season, but pretty much a lock for this time next year barring a portal miracle) is the best candidate available, and not having the criteria be a.) female and b.) ties to the LV program. Hopefully, the hire is someone capable of restoring the program into a contender instead of just continuing to lose ground to SEC schools that did invest in top tier coaching.
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Those teams also have Top Tier NIL, something we're lacking with HS kids(signing bonus).
 
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AllVols3 said:
Those teams also have Top Tier NIL, something we're lacking with HS kids(signing bonus).
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Does this truly carry merit? I mean, lets look at the 2024 HS commit Kaniya Boyd and verbals of later classes in Nyla Brooks and Finley Chastain. Focusing solely on Boyd, she is rated in the range of multiple prospects that are said to have picked other schools over Tennessee due to the lack of a signing bonus. Do we know the deciding factor was a signing bonus? Could it be perhaps no commitment to a primary role in year one? A year ago, Tennessee had a former McD All-American that was unable to break the rotation. The coach was not at fault. Yet, to kids and their support system at times they only see one side. Other schools would and have used that to recruit against the program.

Back to Boyd, she had several other Power 5 offers including Texas A&M and Florida State. Are we saying that Boyd did not seek a signing bonus? I am certain that she could have secured a NIL deal from another school. Before responding think about the discussion around multiple prospects rated close to and behind Boyd that people are saying went elsewhere for a signing bonus. As for Chastain and Brooks, both had options prior to giving a verbal commit to Tennessee. Still today they would have options. Both will be ranked as Top 10 prospects in their respective classes. Did neither seek a signing bonus?
 
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madtownvol said:
I think the issue is more not getting back to S16 and finishing lower in sec. Regression opens up the door for change.
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Definitely direction is a big issue. But I think she could have survived even that given the major injury and the good play at the end if not for that one horrible moment. Almost like a say uncle moment.That's my hopefully fictional fan fiction.
 
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So yall I’m sorry, I haven’t really kept up with this thread lately, but for some reason, from what I’ve been able to graze over, the tune has changed about Kellie being here next season?! What’s changed everyone’s mind? Did something happen that I missed?
 
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House|RockyTop said:
Does this truly carry merit? I mean, lets look at the 2024 HS commit Kaniya Boyd and verbals of later classes in Nyla Brooks and Finley Chastain. Focusing solely on Boyd, she is rated in the range of multiple prospects that are said to have picked other schools over Tennessee due to the lack of a signing bonus. Do we know the deciding factor was a signing bonus? Could it be perhaps no commitment to a primary role in year one? A year ago, Tennessee had a former McD All-American that was unable to break the rotation. The coach was not at fault. Yet, to kids and their support system at times they only see one side. Other schools would and have used that to recruit against the program.

Back to Boyd, she had several other Power 5 offers including Texas A&M and Florida State. Are we saying that Boyd did not seek a signing bonus? I am certain that she could have secured a NIL deal from another school. Before responding think about the discussion around multiple prospects rated close to and behind Boyd that people are saying went elsewhere for a signing bonus. As for Chastain and Brooks, both had options prior to giving a verbal commit to Tennessee. Still today they would have options. Both will be ranked as Top 10 prospects in their respective classes. Did neither seek a signing bonus?
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Exactly. We keep hearing about NIL being the reason for Kellie's recruitment failures, yet she got Boyd, Brooks and Chastain to commit...all highly rated players. What, are we to believe that they are such pure, saintly players, and that UNLIKE ALL THE OTHER TOP HS PLAYERS they can't be bought? Give me a break!
 
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LadyVol1908 said:
So yall I’m sorry, I haven’t really kept up with this thread lately, but for some reason, from what I’ve been able to graze over, the tune has changed about Kellie being here next season?! What’s changed everyone’s mind? Did something happen that I missed?
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KNS recently published an article talking about Kellie's coaching buyout. If she is let go before April 1, then the payout is much, much higher compared to if she is let go after April 1st. This has some people thinking the timing of this article is no coincidence, with April 1st right around the corner.
 
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LadyVol1908 said:
What’s changed everyone’s mind? Did something happen that I missed?
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LOL if I told you it would sound a little strange. BC the AD hasn't tweeted a season ending congratulatory LVBB specific tweet in the appropriate amount of time. Also bc the newspaper ran a routine story fm Cora which I'm sure they've had on file for weeks regarding KJH buyout. And bc we have way too much time on our hands.

April 1, tomorrow is a day KJH buyout lowers, so naturally the tin foil hats go on at midnight tonight and we wait.

On the flip side, our fave insider says there's been good movement forward in NIL funding and Sam's following portal peeps. Seems like biz as usual in the real world.
 
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LadyVol1908 said:
So yall I’m sorry, I haven’t really kept up with this thread lately, but for some reason, from what I’ve been able to graze over, the tune has changed about Kellie being here next season?! What’s changed everyone’s mind? Did something happen that I missed?
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Cora Hall dropped some reality literature
 
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