Coalition of the Realists

pretty sure I was voted president of the NEGAVOLS after the first game when I said we will not go to a bowl game because we can not run the ball on Utah state. I was told everything under the sun why we cant run the ball on Utah state but somehow we are going to get 100% better in a few weeks and be able to compete in the SEC. I did not say anything when we could put Arky state away but we aint winning this game.
 
Oh, why don't you just stick to listening to Mick Jagger music and badmouthing your country!

Oh that line? Wasn't meant for you lil champion...was taking a shot at people saying God Bless The USA was annoying. In my zeal, sometimes I neglect those born without that section of the brain...commence donning of sackcloth and gnashing of teeth...:cray:...THIS EXPATRIATE is heading to Oklahoma. :yahoo:
 
Ok.....so I'm pulling the pin on another grenade....

Who would have the greatest chance of an upset in Norman.....Kiffin (+ staff) or CBJ (+ staff)? If Dools were the coach, the team might as well not get off the plane - so forget him. Also lets not consider Fulmer, Majors, Neyland, etc. just 2 of the last 3 coaches.
 
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pretty sure I was voted president of the NEGAVOLS after the first game when I said we will not go to a bowl game because we can not run the ball on Utah state. I was told everything under the sun why we cant run the ball on Utah state but somehow we are going to get 100% better in a few weeks and be able to compete in the SEC. I did not say anything when we could put Arky state away but we aint winning this game.

There's a clear distinction between negavols and realists.

Negavols just like to complain for complaints sake. Realists look at the situation objectively and form an opinion.

These two camps are not the same. Which would you class yourself as?
 
Ok.....so I'm pulling the pin on another grenade....

Who would have the greatest chance of an upset in Norman.....Kiffin (+ staff) or CBJ (+ staff)? If Dools were the coach, the team might as well not get off the plane - so forget him. Also lets not consider Fulmer, Majors, Neyland, etc. just 2 of the last 3 coaches.

I love it. Thought provoking. Sure to incite (thank you butchna) some fury, but a great question nonetheless.

As bad as we all dislike Saban's princess, he did get us to a bowl game.

Worst hire we ever made, but all of us would be lying if we said he didn't bring a great deal of excitement while here.

Edit- misspelled a word. Butchna pointed it out. It is fixed.
 
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I don't consider being realistic and being a so-called 'negavol' as being the same thing. I consider myself a realist. I realize that short of the Vols playing their A game and OU playing their F game, we have little chance in Norman of pulling off an upset.

I fully understand Butch is not a magician and he and his staff cannot fix over a decade of decay in just a couple of seasons.

That's being realistic, IMO.

However, I don't jump in every positive thread started by a so-called 'sunshine pumper' mocking their positive post, or making comments "if Butch can't get to 8 wins this season then...blah blah blah". I think the board does have some who simply choose to be a member of the legions of the miserable by never having anything positive to say about Butch or the Vols, and being unable to have others make such statements without countering with a negative statement. Sometimes I truly believe those types prefer that the Vols stay down to justify their negativty.

That's being a negavol, IMO.

Could not have said it any better, nor would I try. We shall call you the Chief Communications Officer of the Coalition.
 
100% realists! I know you can not win many games without having an effective running game in the SEC or pop warner! you have to run it somehow and we have not a been able to do that as of yet!
 
I love it. Thought provoking. Sure to insight some fury, but a great question nonetheless.

As bad as we all dislike Saban's princess, he did get us to a bowl game.

Worst hire we ever made, but all of us would be lying if we said he didn't bring a great deal of excitement while here.

Incite...and he didn't...honest injun. :victory:
 
Could not have said it any better, nor would I try. We shall call you the Chief Communications Officer of the Coalition.

Seems like a lot of work...writing more than you on a pointless thread.
 
Nah...don't bother...makes you much more interesting. Walking on water only goes so far.

I'm not Wyatt Earp or Jesus, but I do appreciate the compliment.


(Wyatt Earp reference refers to Tombstone movie, one of my favorites. Doc Holliday's line).
 
So VN, what's worse?

A. Pumping sunshine 24/7, declaring we're going to whip dey azz for every game where we are an underdog, place ridiculous expectations on Butch, and then crucify him when he can't meet those expectations...
TY
OR

B. Acknowledging that we're about to get man-handled by OU, all the while supporting Butch 100% through the rebuilding process.

Because I consider myself firmly in B camp.


or C: Be a sunshine pumper but understand that we are in a 4 year rebuild. Hope and pray we win every game but understand that this season is probably 7 and 5 and a bowl...refuse to criticize kids that are giving their all for our beloved program. Refuse to criticize a coach who is only 2 years into a 4 year rebuild. Refuse to be poisoned by the negativity of the "legions of the miserable"...greatly enjoy our wins and weather our losses knowing that better times are ahead.

Most pumpers fall into category C...nice try though. You miserable bastards will never drag me down. UT football is my favorite passtime, i enjoy it thoroughly and will continue to. The amount of negavols amazes me...and i truly cant stand them. They are a blight to our fanbase and i wish they would go cheer for alabubba.
GBO VFL HUBANegavols
 
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or C: Be a sunshine pumper but understand that we are in a 4 year rebuild. Hope and pray we win every game but understand that this season is probably 7 and 5 and a bowl...refuse to criticize kids that are giving their all for our beloved program. Refuse to criticize a coach who is only 2 years into a 4 year rebuild. Refuse to be poisoned by the negativity of the "legions of the miserable"...greatly enjoy our wins and weather our losses knowing that better times are ahead.

Most pumpers fall into category C...nice try though. You miserable bastards will never drag me down. UT football is my favorite passtime, i enjoy it thoroughly and will continue to. The amount of negavols amazes me...and i truly cant stand them. They are a blight to our fanbase and i wish they would go cheer for alabubba.
GBO VFL HUBANegavols

I'm cool with category C. Sounds a lot like a realist. I can't wait for tomorrow night. I really HOPE we win.
 
And yet, you're still here. Welcome! Glad to have you!

Washing clothes for my trip...local access channel has some guy raving about legalizing meth...you SEEMED like the less loony option at one time...but you got me thinking Don't SOME meth addicts emerge as productive citizens in our society? :dunno:
 
or C: Be a sunshine pumper but understand that we are in a 4 year rebuild. Hope and pray we win every game but understand that this season is probably 7 and 5 and a bowl...refuse to criticize kids that are giving their all for our beloved program. Refuse to criticize a coach who is only 2 years into a 4 year rebuild. Refuse to be poisoned by the negativity of the "legions of the miserable"...greatly enjoy our wins and weather our losses knowing that better times are ahead.

Most pumpers fall into category C...nice try though. You miserable bastards will never drag me down. UT football is my favorite passtime, i enjoy it thoroughly and will continue to. The amount of negavols amazes me...and i truly cant stand them. They are a blight to our fanbase and i wish they would go cheer for alabubba.
GBO VFL HUBANegavols

Off topic, but I see you are in Charlotte. I am too. Have you had a chance to see any of our commitments from the area play yet? I was hoping to go check out Kendall some time this season. We live across the street from Cuthbertson High School.
 
I'm not Wyatt Earp or Jesus, but I do appreciate the compliment.


(Wyatt Earp reference refers to Tombstone movie, one of my favorites. Doc Holliday's line).

Watches movies before making IT put the lotion on IT'S skin.
 
Washing clothes for my trip...local access channel has some guy raving about legalizing meth...you SEEMED like the less loony option at one time...but you got me thinking Don't SOME meth addicts emerge as productive citizens in our society? :dunno:

Hahahaha. Only if you're name is Brian Cranston. :)
 
or C: Be a sunshine pumper but understand that we are in a 4 year rebuild. Hope and pray we win every game but understand that this season is probably 7 and 5 and a bowl...refuse to criticize kids that are giving their all for our beloved program. Refuse to criticize a coach who is only 2 years into a 4 year rebuild. Refuse to be poisoned by the negativity of the "legions of the miserable"...greatly enjoy our wins and weather our losses knowing that better times are ahead.

Most pumpers fall into category C...nice try though. You miserable bastards will never drag me down. UT football is my favorite passtime, i enjoy it thoroughly and will continue to. The amount of negavols amazes me...and i truly cant stand them. They are a blight to our fanbase and i wish they would go cheer for alabubba.
GBO VFL HUBANegavols

post of the year candidate. Nice:hi:
 
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The level of vitriol in this thread is mind boggling. I hope no one wants the Vols to lose and hope no one seems "justified" or "happy" when and if it happens. I joined in because I like to have realistic discussions about the games in an analytical way beyond "We gonna whip dey ass". Will I be upset if the Vols lose? Absolutely. Will I be surprised if we win this game? Absolutely. That's being a realist. In no way do I want us to do anything but go out there and shock the nation its just a very very long shot to happen. That doesnt make me a negative fan or a negavol in my eyes. If it does in yours then I do nto know what to tell ya.

Anyone that gloats about being right or truly wants the Vols to lose should re-examine their team affiliation and definitely should be banned from this forum.
 
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The level of vitriol in this thread is mind boggling. I hope no one wants the Vols to lose and hope no one seems "justified" or "happy" when and if it happens. I joined in because I like to have realistic discussions about the games in an analytical way beyond "We gonna whip dey ass". Will I be upset if the Vols lose? Absolutely. Will I be surprised if we win this game? Absolutely. That's being a realist. In no way do I want us to do anything but go out there and shock the nation its just a very very long shot to happen. That doesnt make me a negative fan or a negavol in my eyes. If it does in yours then I do nto know what to tell ya.

Anyone that gloats about being right or truly wants the Vols to lose should re-examine their team affiliation and definitely should be banned from this forum.

100% correct. It will be a wild party if our boys are able to shock the world Saturday night.
 
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Can the coalition of optimists join you guys? Kinda like the team joining the Pride of the Southland band during circle of life drills
 
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