Coalition of the Realists

#151
#151
Madscientistvol said:
I might have joined this coalition on Monday or Tuesday, but it's Thursday and my glasses are completely orange and I've been hitting the kool aid since last night, so.....Go Vols!! Whip dey azz!!!
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We'll let you back in once the kool-aid wears off. Plenty of folks dabble. Few are able to make it back intact.
 
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nash101 said:
I'll be decked out in orange in Norman for the game. Tickets cost me bottles of wine

I'm not going there with high expectations of a victory; however, I will cheer loudly for the Vols and hope for the upset. The difference in a realist and a nega-vol is simple. The latter says there is no chance to win period. The realist understands the odds are against us but there is always a chance - we cheer and hope for a few breaks to go our way
GBO
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Perfect.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
Which is? You want everyone to know ahead of time that you are so wise as to predict a UT loss? Congrats. Truly one of college football's greatest minds.
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Confirmed. Sorry I missed this earlier. Not a club member. Clearly does not get it. Enjoy the kool-aid and sunshine. :)
 
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knoxvols11 said:
I'm in!
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Welcome. I'd like to tell you we have a hat and some cool shirts, but then I'd be lying. We aren't a real club, just a club of realists.

Once the smoke settles from this dumpster fire thread, I'll start another one listing all of our founding members (with opt-outs upon request).
 
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Brentwoodvolfan said:
I guess because I've coached or played sports to long that I have a problem with saying we lose before you even play the game!! Should we lose on paper I think you could come to that conclusion for sure. I'm pretty sure the players also know this, but there is also the competitor inside us that believes we can beat them even though the odds are long. When I coached we played a bunch of teams I felt like were more talented, but that fired me up even more. It's why the game is played because of that chance!! It happen every week and that stupid little saying "Why not us", so there you have it. Why not us, why not Sat. 09-13-2014 can be the day the football Gods give us a break. Will it happen?? I sure as heck hope so, and I hope our boys believe we can. If you go in this game believing you can't win that's when you get young men that quit on you when things go bad. So there ya go my 2 cents worth!! GBO
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My philosophy exactly,, I agree with you 100%,, You have to play the game...
 
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Genuine question here...Negavols love our team as much as we do...right? Why would you need to quell the urge TO GLOAT if your prediction comes to pass?
 
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#160
If we win, I'm going to be very happy

If we lose, I won't like it, but I expect it, so it won't be too hard to swallow

Not like 2001 SECCG. I would have set a whole warehouse full of mattresses on fire
 
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Recoil said:
Welcome. I'd like to tell you we have a hat and some cool shirts, but then I'd be lying. We aren't a real club, just a club of realists.

Once the smoke settles from this dumpster fire thread, I'll start another one listing all of our founding members (with opt-outs upon request).
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I'm in the club that is really hoping for a win but knows it most likely won't happen. Would really love to see some progress either way. That being said, I wouldn't want to be a part of any club you're in. Has nothing to do with realism. It has more to do with the fact you seem terribly full of yourself and not my kind of people.
 
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I am in the ,Play each play with 100 % effort for 4 quarters and walk out of Norman with your head up club. The Power of One, Go Vols !! I think most will not admit it but drink the kool-aid year round like me.
 
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butchna said:
Genuine question here...Negavols love our team as much as we do...right? Why would you need to quell the urge TO GLOAT if your prediction comes to pass?
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If you aren't happy with a Vol victory (this upcoming game or any other) then I'm not certain how one can be considered a Vol fan. I just don't know how that could meet the definition.

No, the nettlesome part is that somehow, for some people, it is nigh impossible to posit realistic issues (like pointing out extreme youth/inexperience in key mismatch positions against an opposing team) without it being tantamount to, at best, "giving up" or "rolling over" or at worst basically rooting against UT. This simply makes no sense. There need be nothing mutually exclusive about pointing out there is precious little rational reason to believe we go to Norman and win vs cheering like hell in hopes that is exactly what happens. Those two points of view can easily coexist. If anything it makes any outcome better; a loss sucks but one hopes to glean some positive observations and a win is like reaching into a jacket pocket you haven't worn in a long time and pulling out a wad of money you didn't even know was there. Very much unexpected but but a happy surprise indeed.

I'm not about to preach down to how anyone wants to support the Vols but, damn, the really rabid kool-aide approach just looks emotionally exhausting.
 
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VonVol said:
I'm in the club that is really hoping for a win but knows it most likely won't happen. Would really love to see some progress either way. That being said, I wouldn't want to be a part of any club you're in. Has nothing to do with realism. It has more to do with the fact you seem terribly full of yourself and not my kind of people.
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Thank you for the insults. Re-read the OP...might sound a lot like what you typed above.

However, we won't be able to extend an invitation to you. Take care.
 
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butchna said:
Genuine question here...Negavols love our team as much as we do...right? Why would you need to quell the urge TO GLOAT if your prediction comes to pass?
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Because people do and say dumb stuff. This should be no surprise to a VN member who has witnessed it first hand countless times.
 
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Dickel#12Vol said:
My philosophy exactly,, I agree with you 100%,, You have to play the game...
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Spot on. Play it and hope to win. But as fans, we can hope until we're blue in the face , but in the end, outcomes happen on the field.

Realist says I hope beyond all hope we win, but believe our odds are in the .01% range.

FYI- Jim Carrey liked those odds in Dumb and Dumber. My favorite film.
 
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#169
Honestly, I'd rather be a fan than a realist. I don't think that UT will win, but them pulling off an upset isn't impossible. I'll be cheering hard for the vols to pull off the upset this Saturday.

P.S. I definitely think we have a greater than .01% chance to win.
 
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hndog609 said:
If you aren't happy with a Vol victory (this upcoming game or any other) then I'm not certain how one can be considered a Vol fan. I just don't know how that could meet the definition.

No, the nettlesome part is that somehow, for some people, it is nigh impossible to posit realistic issues (like pointing out extreme youth/inexperience in key mismatch positions against an opposing team) without it being tantamount to, at best, "giving up" or "rolling over" or at worst basically rooting against UT. This simply makes no sense. There need be nothing mutually exclusive about pointing out there is precious little rational reason to believe we go to Norman and win vs cheering like hell in hopes that is exactly what happens. Those two points of view can easily coexist. If anything it makes any outcome better; a loss sucks but one hopes to glean some positive observations and a win is like reaching into a jacket pocket you haven't worn in a long time and pulling out a wad of money you didn't even know was there. Very much unexpected but but a happy surprise indeed.

I'm not about to preach down to how anyone wants to support the Vols but, damn, the really rabid kool-aide approach just looks emotionally exhausting.
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Vice Chairman, IMO.
 
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omghulkhands said:
If Oregonvol's poll is any kind of indicator, a lot of people have bought in to the thought that we will beat OU on Saturday. A lot more than I figured. If you think we beat OU, you really have to believe we are a 10-2 or better type team, right?
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Wrong. It would mean we were the better team that day. If we beat OU, it has absolutely no bearing on any other games. It wouldn't mean you have to believe we go 10-2 or better. To me it would mean we played a great game and are improving. Would it ease my mind for the UGA, Alabama or UF games? Absolutely not. One game at a time.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Wrong. It would mean we were the better team that day. If we beat OU, it has absolutely no bearing on any other games. It wouldn't mean you have to believe we go 10-2 or better. To me it would mean we played a great game and are improving. Would it ease my mind for the UGA, Alabama or UF games? Absolutely not. One game at a time.
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Realists greatly appreciate your logic. Great post.

For the record, hulk hands is great too. I don't start problems.
 
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Vol knight said:
Honestly, I'd rather be a fan than a realist. I don't think that UT will win, but them pulling off an upset isn't impossible. I'll be cheering hard for the vols to pull off the upset this Saturday.

P.S. I definitely think we have a greater than .01% chance to win.
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You are right on the odds. I'm wrong. See, another facet of the realist club- we readily admit our mistakes.

Thank you.
 
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Recoil said:
Spot on. Play it and hope to win. But as fans, we can hope until we're blue in the face , but in the end, outcomes happen on the field.

Realist says I hope beyond all hope we win, but believe our odds are in the .01% range.

FYI- Jim Carrey liked those odds in Dumb and Dumber. My favorite film.
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A realist would say we have a 50% chance of winning. Why? The game has to be played. Regardless of what two teams are playing, each team has a 50% chance to win.

Believing we have a .01% chance of winning does not classify you as a realist. It classifies you as a defeatist. Because you have basically given up before the game is even played.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Wrong. It would mean we were the better team that day. If we beat OU, it has absolutely no bearing on any other games. It wouldn't mean you have to believe we go 10-2 or better. To me it would mean we played a great game and are improving. Would it ease my mind for the UGA, Alabama or UF games? Absolutely not. One game at a time.
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Amen. Bama, Georgia, even Fla would still be upsets. They are young. They'll crap the bed at some point and play way over their heads at others. No need for over reaction on either one. I look for playing over their heads. That's just me though
 
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