Colin Kaepernick sits during national anthem

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

I Have read about this. Did you ever stop to think about what age children still play with dolls? 3...4..5...? lets even stretch that and say that they were 6 or so. That would mean that at most, those kids had been to kindergarten. Been outside the home for half a day for 9 months, and in 1950 would have been pre integration...so the kids only saw kids that look like them.

Doesnt that mean that this is NOT learned behavior taught by society, as these kids were never socialized. They are small enough to play with dolls , they have been only at home with mommy.

That means 1 of 2 things. Either the kids were taught, AT HOME , that black people are mean dumb and ugly...or the black people they interact with were this way for the black kids... or it is a universal belief that naturally occurs in children to believe that black dolls or people are not as attractive or nice as white dolls or people. If these kids are so small, their beliefs and experiences havent come from the society you LONG DESPERATELY to blame, but have either come from their families or genetics.

Having come from a mixed family with 2 black siblings and 2 white siblings i find this fascinating. I wish this experiment were done on my family si we could see the results. Regardless, i think you are dead wrong in your assumptions and beliefs...and your victim mentality will cripple you and all the folks that believe the way you do. Thankfully, my black sisters werent fed the lies that you have swallowed whole and they are happy and productive people. Cheers.

So your counter to the doll experiment is that black people are genetically inferior? LOL.

And lemme guess you don't think you are racist?

LOL @ the lengths some of ya'll will go to deny the existence of systemic racism in America.

 

[37L1]

So your counter to the doll experiment is that black people are genetically inferior? LOL.

And lemme guess you don't think you are racist?

LOL @ the lengths some of ya'll will go to deny the existence of systemic racism in America.

You are part of the problem.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

There you have it. The only thing we're ever taught at school about black history is SLAVERY. And that is the problem. All our people are ever taught is you were slaves. And that has led to a deep seeded inferiority complex that is one of the major reasons for the lack of progress in the black community.

If our kids were taught our TRUE HISTORY. That we come from the cradle of civilization, Africa. That we are the original humans. That our people colonized the world. That we created the first civilizations. That we ruled over Europe at one time when the Moors reigned. And so on.

If our kids are taught our true history, then maybe there wouldn't be such a lack of self-respect and pride in the black community. You may not see the need for black pride education. But most black people do. We need to be the ones to teach our children. Not white people.

What the actual fudge...

There is so much fail in this, where to start. Wow. On second thought, good luck with that.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

So your counter to the doll experiment is that black people are genetically inferior? LOL.

And lemme guess you don't think you are racist?

LOL @ the lengths some of ya'll will go to deny the existence of systemic racism in America.

Are you that dumb? The part you bolded, nor any other part of what i posted said blacks were genetically inferior. If those BELIEFS that were revealed in the experiment could have only come BEFORE THE KIDS WENT TO SCHOOL....where did they come from?

Yeah, you went to DUKE. on a field trip. I went there when i was 12 or 13, for the TIP due to my SAT scores. Bet i spent more time there that day than you have.

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

There would be no need for black pride if white supremacy didn't teach us to hate ourselves. Black people in America (and around the world given the power of American media) have been brainwashed into believing everything black is bad and everything white is good.

If there was no racism telling black people they are inferior, we wouldn't need educate our kids to be proud of who they are.

Nothing personal D4H, but you're the only one I see saying anything about black people being inferior and everything black is bad. Point being, if you have kids and this is the message you send to them, then all you're doing is creating the problem that you're claiming you wish would go away.

 

[joevol33]

Thought the cradle of civilization was Mesopotamia.

If your people are the first people then your people were the originators of oppression. Congrats.

KaaaaaaaaaBoooooom

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

BS - racism has existed as long as races have existed

Actually no.

The modern day concept of race in which people are categorized based on phenotype is an entirely new phenomenon in human history. It actually started in the 1500 with white europeans. Before that, people were only tribal. They viewed one another differently based on tribal or national affiliation. Race was something white people in the 1500s created.

For example, if you read the writing of the Ancient Greeks and Romans, they didn't consider themselves "white". They were just Greek or Roman. The Greeks famously wrote that they considered themselves superior to the Germanic tribes to the north because they were darker in skin tone and hair color but also superior to the Egyptians and Ethiopians to the south because they were lighter. They considered being too white or too black to be bad. And that they were the perfect medium between the two extremes.

What happened in 1500 with the rise of the trans-atlantic slave trade was white europeans before separated by nations and tribes came together under the cloak of WHITENESS. When before the English and Russian looked at themselves as different people, they now came under the umbrella of whiteness. And in turn Africans came under the umbrella of blackness regardless of the tribe or region they come from.

 

[GAVol]

White people created racism, its on them to end it.

Human nature created racism...

...and trolling.

 

[sanddune50]

The deal is we will always be divided if there's constant strife stirred up between us. The peer pressure on you has to be hard. If you don't toe the line you're called all sorts of names.

People need to ask themselves, who does this racial tension benefit? Does it benefit the common working man, black or white, who is trying to earn a living for his family? Absolutely not.

If only everyone looked at the man behind the curtain. It's kinda hard for the working class or poor to oppress anyone.

 

[GAVol]

Actually no.

The modern day concept of race in which people are categorized based on phenotype is an entirely new phenomenon in human history. It actually started in the 1500 with white europeans. Before that, people were only tribal. They viewed one another differently based on tribal or national affiliation. Race was something white people in the 1500s created.

For example, if you read the writing of the Ancient Greeks and Romans, they didn't consider themselves "white". They were just Greek or Roman. The Greeks famously wrote that they considered themselves superior to the Germanic tribes to the north because they were darker in skin tone and hair color but also superior to the Egyptians and Ethiopians to the south because they were lighter. They considered being too white or too black to be bad. And that they were the perfect medium between the two extremes.

What happened in 1500 with the rise of the trans-atlantic slave trade was white europeans before separated by nations and tribes came together under the cloak of WHITENESS. When before the English and Russian looked at themselves as different people, they now came under the umbrella of whiteness. And in turn Africans came under the umbrella of blackness regardless of the tribe or region they come from.

That is the biggest pile of fake intellectual gobbledygook I've ever read.

 

[joevol33]

What's that supposed to mean?

FYI black people are not the ones that created the modern racial paradigm. We're not the ones that went around categorizing certain people as different races. That was Europeans.

White folks are the ones that decided to say we are black and inferior to them. We never went around separating people.

Black people sold black people to the white man. As a matter of fact, blacks in Africa still own black slaves. Actually, there was a big story about a year ago (maybe 2) where a group of blacks kidnapped pretty much an entire school. You say nothing, not a word of what your own people are doing to each other, yet want to keep talking about what white people done a hundred, or 50 years ago. If slavery is so wrong, why do you not cry out about it happening now? Is it ok if black people own blacks in your opinion? I'm not sure where you went to school, but I was never taught "white people are better", and I went to school in Kentucky, where you'd think we're all backwood uneducated racist.

 

[carlos86]

Thought the cradle of civilization was Mesopotamia.

If your people are the first people then your people were the originators of oppression. Congrats.

Yes Mesopotamia is the birthplace of civilization. Africa is the birthplace of man and yes Africans were the first ever to enslave other humans..

 

[vollygirl]

That is the biggest pile of fake intellectual gobbledygook I've ever read.

Give it ten minutes.

 

[joevol33]

Actually no.

The modern day concept of race in which people are categorized based on phenotype is an entirely new phenomenon in human history. It actually started in the 1500 with white europeans. Before that, people were only tribal. They viewed one another differently based on tribal or national affiliation. Race was something white people in the 1500s created.

For example, if you read the writing of the Ancient Greeks and Romans, they didn't consider themselves "white". They were just Greek or Roman. The Greeks famously wrote that they considered themselves superior to the Germanic tribes to the north because they were darker in skin tone and hair color but also superior to the Egyptians and Ethiopians to the south because they were lighter. They considered being too white or too black to be bad. And that they were the perfect medium between the two extremes.

What happened in 1500 with the rise of the trans-atlantic slave trade was white europeans before separated by nations and tribes came together under the cloak of WHITENESS. When before the English and Russian looked at themselves as different people, they now came under the umbrella of whiteness. And in turn Africans came under the umbrella of blackness regardless of the tribe or region they come from.

Wrong, so wrong.

 

[hog88]

Wrong, so wrong.

Two Wongs can't make a white.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Are you that dumb? The part you bolded, nor any other part of what i posted said blacks were genetically inferior. If those BELIEFS that were revealed in the experiment could have only come BEFORE THE KIDS WENT TO SCHOOL....where did they come from?

Yeah, you went to DUKE. on a field trip. I went there when i was 12 or 13, for the TIP due to my SAT scores. Bet i spent more time there that day than you have.

Kids sit in front of the TV from the time they are born. Where else would they get indoctrinated?

I'm not the one that suggested 5-6 years old is too young to understand what is good and what is bad. You're the one trying to act like kids can't understand anything at that age. You're the one trying to suggest a genetic component in thinking black people are ugly or violent.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Good. I'm glad you brought this up.

Yes, sports is one area where black people are stereotypical viewed as better. That we are bigger, stronger, faster, etc. Usually the words used are dehumanizing in nature. For example, athletes are described as "beasts" on the field.

Now reverse that sentiments for every other walk of life. That is white supremacy. The belief that white people are intellectually or morally superior to black people.

I have a problem with the racist nature at which black athletes are talked about. If you have a problem with that as well, why not have a problem with the way we're treated in every other walk of life?

Hahahaha. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. My sisters academic scholly says "hi!". Neither of my black sisters ever played a sport either. Wonder if white people got all bent out of shape when woody harrelson starred in "white men cant jump"? You think denzel or morgan freeman would star in "black men cant read" ? Think that a movie with that title could ever get released? Theatres would be burned to the ground....because there is a double standard. Its cool to trash white men, but hell to pay for the inverse. You want whites to rid the world of black on black racism, like these stereotypes or black culture still usimg the "N" word all the time in rap and pop music...should blacks then protest stuff like "white men cant jump"? What about adding some forced integration in the NBA and NFL? affirmative action style. Whites still make up over 50% of the population, shouldnt half the NBA and NFL rosters be white guys? Only seems "fair"...

We speak openly in my family. Racism is racism. Right now, the black community for the most part is perpetuating racism. Most whites that were actually around pre civil rights are now dead, or lack influence. Young white people see everyone equal. In the last 10 years, Obamas presidency, race relations have gone backwards a mile. Decades of progress are gone. Its not because of white people, IMO, its because of the attitudes of the younger black folks. They have been stirred up, lied to, put on plantations and played by the democrats and race baiters...and they are destroying their own communities and our national culture. You are the problem. And others just like you. As long as you play yourself as a victim, tou will never accomplish anything. Ever.

 

[sanddune50]

Actually no.

The modern day concept of race in which people are categorized based on phenotype is an entirely new phenomenon in human history. It actually started in the 1500 with white europeans. Before that, people were only tribal. They viewed one another differently based on tribal or national affiliation. Race was something white people in the 1500s created.

For example, if you read the writing of the Ancient Greeks and Romans, they didn't consider themselves "white". They were just Greek or Roman. The Greeks famously wrote that they considered themselves superior to the Germanic tribes to the north because they were darker in skin tone and hair color but also superior to the Egyptians and Ethiopians to the south because they were lighter. They considered being too white or too black to be bad. And that they were the perfect medium between the two extremes.

What happened in 1500 with the rise of the trans-atlantic slave trade was white europeans before separated by nations and tribes came together under the cloak of WHITENESS. When before the English and Russian looked at themselves as different people, they now came under the umbrella of whiteness. And in turn Africans came under the umbrella of blackness regardless of the tribe or region they come from.

That's the biggest crock of **** I have read in this thread and that's saying something. The slave trade that brought your supposed ancestors to America was perpetrated by Muslims and African royalty. Did white euros play a role in the slave trade? Absolutely. But that nonsense you are spewing either tells me someone brainwashed you with fiction. Or you are perpetrating a lie in an effort to justify your anger and hatred. And oh by the way, the slave trade still occurs in those very same areas today. You and Colin need to retake a World History course not taught by an agenda driven liberal professor.

 

[volfanhill]

Kids sit in front of the TV from the time they are born. Where else would they get indoctrinated?

I'm not the one that suggested 5-6 years old is too young to understand what is good and what is bad. You're the one trying to act like kids can't understand anything at that age. You're the one trying to suggest a genetic component in thinking black people are ugly or violent.

ugh

 

[hog88]

Kids sit in front of the TV from the time they are born. Where else would they get indoctrinated?

I'm not the one that suggested 5-6 years old is too young to understand what is good and what is bad. You're the one trying to act like kids can't understand anything at that age. You're the one trying to suggest a genetic component in thinking black people are ugly or violent.

That's just bad parenting. Break the cycle.

 

[carlos86]

Also the Moors didn't "rule Europe" they rules Sicily and modern day Spain. Queen Isabella The I and her husband Ferdinand II of Aragon would kicked the Moors out of Europe. This is world history 101

 

[BeecherVol]

That is the biggest pile of fake intellectual gobbledygook I've ever read.

Just give it time, he will clear that bar before the day is over.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Thought the cradle of civilization was Mesopotamia.

Actually that is another lie of white supremacy.

There were several African empires that preceded Mesopotamia. History Didn't Begin in Mesopotamia - NYTimes.com

 

[82_VOL_83]

Kaepernick explicitly voiced his support of the troops.

The flag represents a lot of things, good and bad. Just because you focus on the good and salute the good does not mean you think everything is good. Just because Kaepernick refused to salute the flag does not mean he thinks everything is bad. Just like you aren't endorsing Japanese internment when you stand for the flag, CK was not insulting the sacrifices made by troops when he did not stand for the flag.

People just want to be outraged.

So you are good with people supporting the Stars and Bars because for many of us it stands for heritage not hate?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

There you have it. The only thing we're ever taught at school about black history is SLAVERY. And that is the problem. All our people are ever taught is you were slaves. And that has led to a deep seeded inferiority complex that is one of the major reasons for the lack of progress in the black community.

If our kids were taught our TRUE HISTORY. That we come from the cradle of civilization, Africa. That we are the original humans. That our people colonized the world. That we created the first civilizations. That we ruled over Europe at one time when the Moors reigned. And so on.

If our kids are taught our true history, then maybe there wouldn't be such a lack of self-respect and pride in the black community. You may not see the need for black pride education. But most black people do. We need to be the ones to teach our children. Not white people.

Teach them about that ancient holiday of Kwaanza while you are at it.