College Hoops Around The Country [TN opponents, RPI, others]

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Anti-shunshinepumper said:
The Q1 wins we hold over them is what matters. Our SOS much better.
It's not just a game or two, we have almost double. We got the number one seed if we win out and don't shite the bed in first game of SEC tournament

Hopefully we beat Ole Miss and them Ole Miss beats Florida and removes all doubt.
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I wouldn't put any hope in Ole Miss winning at UF.
 
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BallerVolFan said:
Alabama would be possibly in the running for the best team in the country if they actually tried to play a lick of defense. They are literally all offense.
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Think about how they run around on offense. Would be hard to do that if they played intense D like we do, or even close. Without that movement they wouldn't be as good on offense.
Kentucky very similar. In that Auburn game they started out with really good D and held Auburn down. They were sucking wind in the first 5 mins and it was hurting their offense. Ultimately, they couldn't keep it up and got boat raced for their trouble.
 
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99gator said:
So, you're saying that if Florida and Tennessee play each other in the SEC Tournament, that's not going to have any effect on anything
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Based on history, it really won’t. Someone posted that Lunardi said that anything past Friday in the tournaments won’t really matter unless a spoiler wins. They’ve kind of set that precedent the last few years, but I’m not surprised at much these days.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Based on history, it really won’t. Someone posted that Lunardi said that anything past Friday in the tournaments won’t really matter unless a spoiler wins. They’ve kind of set that precedent the last few years, but I’m not surprised at much these days.
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So, hypothetically speaking, a Florida team that finishes 30-4 wins the SEC Tournament with wins in the SEC Tournament vs. Kentucky, Tennessee and Auburn, ending the season with a 5-1 record vs. Auburn, Tennessee and Alabama would not be getting the #1 seed.
 
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99gator said:
So, hypothetically speaking, a Florida team that finishes 30-4 wins the SEC Tournament with wins in the SEC Tournament vs. Kentucky, Tennessee and Auburn, ending the season with a 5-1 record vs. Auburn, Tennessee and Alabama would not be getting the #1 seed.
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Hypothetically, it could happen. Do I think that will happen? No. But just 3 years ago Tennessee won the SEC tournament and finished behind Kentucky on the seed line when we had beaten them 2 out of 3 and had better resume metrics as well. Lunardi then came on TV and said the tournament didn’t matter.
 
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99gator said:
So, you're saying that if Florida and Tennessee play each other in the SEC Tournament, that's not going to have any effect on anything
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I'm saying history has shown the committee doesn't necessarily wait to see who wins/comes out better in the conference tournament to make their pick.
I mean if I told you Tennessee and Flordia both lost their first game of the tournament does that mean Michigan State necessarily jump both of us if they win the Big 10?
Most likely not.
 
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99gator said:
So, hypothetically speaking, a Florida team that finishes 30-4 wins the SEC Tournament with wins in the SEC Tournament vs. Kentucky, Tennessee and Auburn, ending the season with a 5-1 record vs. Auburn, Tennessee and Alabama would not be getting the #1 seed.
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If they base it on how they’ve viewed it in the past. I’ve said this before, but objectively, right now, UT has a better resume. Will they in a week? I don’t know.

But UT didn’t get the benefit from winning the SECT in 2022, and it’s clear they set most of the seedings on Friday/Saturday.
 
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I agree with you all more than you think but I think you guys take Lunardi a little too literally, imo.

The statement that the tournament doesn’t matter is probably true for the vast majority of teams in the country. That’s because they are likely to do what people think they will do at those tournaments. But, there are exceptions

But, I’ll take Florida and Tennessee out of the equation.

Let’s pretend ole miss wins the sec tournament. Are you suggesting their seed would be no different than if they were bounced out after their first game?
 
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99gator said:
I agree with you all more than you think but I think you guys take Lunardi a little too literally, imo.

The statement that the tournament doesn’t matter is probably true for the vast majority of teams in the country. That’s because they are likely to do what people think they will do at those tournaments. But, there are exceptions

But, I’ll take Florida and Tennessee out of the equation.

Let’s pretend ole miss wins the sec tournament. Are you suggesting their seed would be no different than if they were bounced out after their first game?
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For the most part, yes. Texas A&M’s run to the finals 3 years ago didn’t get them in, and their numbers ended up being better than several of the last at-large teams.

The have to set 68 teams, and their only movements are spoilers on the weekend.

Lunardi has shown to have a source on the committee. It’s been pretty clear from past results.
 
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99gator said:
I agree with you all more than you think but I think you guys take Lunardi a little too literally, imo.

The statement that the tournament doesn’t matter is probably true for the vast majority of teams in the country. That’s because they are likely to do what people think they will do at those tournaments. But, there are exceptions

But, I’ll take Florida and Tennessee out of the equation.

Let’s pretend ole miss wins the sec tournament. Are you suggesting their seed would be no different than if they were bounced out after their first game?
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Most likely not. I think Ole Miss will have the exact same seed if they make it to Sunday as they will if they make it to Saturday. I think the only thing that matters is winning your first game, maybe two. After that the Committee isn’t going to bump a 6 to a 5 if that throws off the rest of the bracket.
 
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VolGee4 said:
For the most part, yes. Texas A&M’s run to the finals 3 years ago didn’t get them in, and their numbers ended up being better than several of the last at-large teams.

The have to set 68 teams, and their only movements are spoilers on the weekend.

Lunardi has shown to have a source on the committee. It’s been pretty clear from past results.
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You don’t know that he does or doesn’t have a source. You assume he does because he’s fairly accurate. However he also studies this stuff religiously, knows the committee principles like the back of his hand, and has made a living as a pretty good prognosticator. Maybe he’s just really good at his job? I’ll go on the record as saying he doesn’t have an inside source.
 
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